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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

In Cobb County, Ga., controversy erupted this spring when school board officials decided to affix "disclaimer stickers" to science textbooks, alerting students that "evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things."

The stickers were the Cobb County District School Board's response to intelligent design theory, which holds that the complexity of DNA and the diversity of life forms on our planet and beyond can be explained only by an extra-natural intelligent agent. The ID movement -- reminiscent of creationism but more nuanced and harder to label -- has been quietly gaining momentum in a number of states for several years, especially Georgia and Ohio.

Stickers on textbooks are only the latest evidence of the ID movement's successes to date, though Cobb County officials did soften their position somewhat in September following a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. In a subsequent policy statement, officials said the biological theory of evolution is a "disputed view" that must be "balanced" in the classroom, taking into account other, religious teachings.

Surely, few would begrudge ID advocates their views or the right to discuss the concept as part of religious studies. At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution.

How the Cobb County episode will affect science students remains uncertain since, as the National Center for Science Education noted, the amended policy statement included "mixed signals."

But it's clear that the ID movement is quickly emerging as one of the more significant threats to U.S. science education, fueled by a sophisticated marketing campaign based on a three-pronged penetration of the scientific community, educators and the general public.

In Ohio, the state's education board on Oct. 14 passed a unanimous though preliminary vote to keep ID theory out of the state's science classrooms. But the board's ruling left the door open for local school districts to present ID theory together with science and suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

In fact, even while the state-level debate continued, the Patrick Henry Local School District, based in Columbus, passed a motion this June to support "the idea of intelligent design being included as appropriate in classroom discussions in addition to other scientific theories."

Undaunted by tens of thousands of e-mails it has already received on the topic, the state's education board is now gamely inviting further public comment through November. In December, Ohio's Board of Education will vote to conclusively determine whether alternatives to evolution should be included in new guidelines that spell out what students need to know about science at different grade levels.

Meanwhile, ID theorists reportedly have been active in Missouri, Kansas, New Mexico, New Jersey and other states as well as Ohio and Georgia.

What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.

In fact, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest general scientific society in the world, passed a resolution this month urging policy-makers to keep intelligent design theory out of U.S. science classrooms.

Noting that the United States has promised to "leave no child behind," the AAAS Board found that intelligent design theory -- if presented within science courses as factually based -- is likely to confuse American schoolchildren and undermine the integrity of U.S. science education. At a time when standards-based learning and performance assessments are paramount, children would be better served by keeping scientific information separate from religious concepts.

Certainly, American society supports and encourages a broad range of viewpoints and the scientific community is no exception. While this diversity enriches the educational experience for students, science and conceptual belief systems should not be co-mingled, as ID proponents have repeatedly proposed.

The ID argument that random mutations in nature and natural selection, for example, are too complex for scientific explanation is an interesting -- and for some, highly compelling -- philosophical or theological concept. Unfortunately, it's being put forth as a scientifically based alternative to the theory of biological evolution, and it isn't based on science. In sum, there's no data to back it up, and no way of scientifically testing the validity of the ideas proposed by ID advocates.

The quality of U.S. science education is at stake here. We live in an era when science and technology are central to every issue facing our society -- individual and national security, health care, economic prosperity, employment opportunities.

Children who lack an appropriate grounding in science and mathematics, and who can't discriminate what is and isn't evidence, are doomed to lag behind their well-educated counterparts. America's science classrooms are certainly no place to mix church and state.

Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


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To: CobaltBlue
Why do you want to dictate to all the kids in public schools? Yes, I do educate at home. Here is a funny thing. Two years ago our tri county had the "textbook selection" for ordering science books for many schools in 3 counties. They kept the doors open for 2 days for the parents to come in and give their ideas about which publisher would be best (like a textbook selection). My husband, 13 year old son and myself were the only parents to come in in those 2 days. I wonder what that means? I care for many reasons. I do not approve of the religion of evolution being taught in public schools at my expense. I am a huge taxpayer in my county. Why do I care? I care because the next generation of kids coming through the public school system are in danger.
121 posted on 06/22/2003 6:55:48 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: DannyTN
Scientists also hoot at totally bogus BS, so being hooted at doesn't mean you're right.

There just isn't any way for ID to ever have the last laugh, because it's never going to be verifiable. Not unless God shows up and demonstrates how He did it.
123 posted on 06/22/2003 6:56:03 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: goodseedhomeschool
Not all tax payers believe in creationism...Remember, separation of church and state. Otherwise, we are teaching as Islam teaches.
124 posted on 06/22/2003 6:56:48 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: BenLurkin
... I'm pretty sure gravity is a fact.

Well you are wrong.

Facts are observable. "A rock drops to the earth" is a fact. Facts can be replicated and reproduced. I can drop the rock, you can drop it, anyone can and get the same observational results.

Facts are grouped into principles. "All things when dropped, fall to the earth." That is an example of a principle. It comes from the facts that we all can replicate and can be supported by experimentation.

"Gravity is the force that causes objects to be attracted to each other"-- a theory to explain the principles and facts. Theories, and principles can only be supported or disproved. They are never proven by experimentation.

125 posted on 06/22/2003 6:57:28 PM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: ALS
Time for "The Wire." Later.
126 posted on 06/22/2003 6:57:37 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: Experiment 6-2-6; Liberal Classic; clamper1797; Right Wing Professor; Focault's Pendulum; ...
ping
127 posted on 06/22/2003 6:57:39 PM PDT by CanadianFella
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To: ApesForEvolution
They hate us because what we are saying violate their religion (evolution). It is hard to discover they have been taught a lie all their lives. They will defend it to the end.
128 posted on 06/22/2003 6:59:27 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: CobaltBlue
"Scientists also hoot at totally bogus BS, so being hooted at doesn't mean you're right. "

True, but it doesn't mean I'm wrong either, no matter how big the consensus is against me.

"There just isn't any way for ID to ever have the last laugh, because it's never going to be verifiable. Not unless God shows up and demonstrates how He did it."

Never say never. And don't rule that last possibility out.

129 posted on 06/22/2003 7:00:12 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: ALS
Two minutes left. Long enough to say that all ID does is point to complicated life processes and structures and say they are too complicated to have evolved.

Who knows, maybe that's true. Maybe life on earth actually was brought here on a space ship. But it's not science.
130 posted on 06/22/2003 7:00:13 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: longshadow
Exhibiting the inherent fear of evos to any opposition.

Can't stand the heat. Your idea of discourse fits in better with Castro's.
131 posted on 06/22/2003 7:00:29 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: CobaltBlue
Yeah, but what's really fun is watching convolutionists hypothesize, point to junk science, then lie, then make up more crap, then run around chasing wild geese, then lie some more, then run around chasing more wild geese, then conjecture, then cover up, then hypothesize, then ponder it all...only to start the cycle all over again.

When NEVER prsenting *ANY* real PROOF!

So, if evotards can throw all their garbage out in the street, who are they to say who else can do anything?

Oh..oh...oh...I know. The evotards somehow have more intellectual prowess and superiority because they are enlightened enough to buy into the evo-conspiracy?

Wrong. Evolution and the junk science in it, around it, on it and under it make everyone that buys into it a chimp.

132 posted on 06/22/2003 7:00:43 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
yes, "to the END"
133 posted on 06/22/2003 7:01:01 PM PDT by marbren
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To: Calpernia
I think that if parents want their kids to learn evolution, they should have to pay for it like we do in Christian schools. They should send them to private schools. The state should not have to fund the religeous teachings of evolution.
134 posted on 06/22/2003 7:01:40 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: CobaltBlue
"Long enough to say that all ID does is point to complicated life processes and structures and say they are too complicated to have evolved.

Who knows, maybe that's true. Maybe life on earth actually was brought here on a space ship. But it's not science."



And if it is true, evolution isn't science. Especially the way it's presented by the evos around these parts.

Escapist neo-religion at best
135 posted on 06/22/2003 7:02:46 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: All
Will this thread still be here in the morning, or will the anti-rationalists succeed in getting it pulled?
136 posted on 06/22/2003 7:03:54 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: CobaltBlue
"Maybe life on earth actually was brought here on a space ship."

What's really sad is that most evotards I know would buy the space ship explanation if given a choice of their Creator (the truth) or extra-terrestials.

ABG: Anything but God...
137 posted on 06/22/2003 7:04:06 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: PatrickHenry
Evolution is not rational. The faith required to continue buying into the evocrap, though, is commanding...
138 posted on 06/22/2003 7:05:13 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: ApesForEvolution
LOL funny you should mention that because many of them are already trying to go in that direction. Sad is'nt it?
139 posted on 06/22/2003 7:05:14 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Jorge
Did you even read my post? Hey, the sky is blue (AN EXCELLENT ARGUMENT FOR ID) And, uh, my cat is a calico (AN EXCELLENT ARGUMENT FOR ID)

And the idea that the speed of light has slowed down is based on the measurements of two scientists from the 1600's who actually got very close, giving themselves a 5% margin of error either way. The Australian scientist Setterfield took the highest margin of error from these measurements to state that the speed of light in 1600 was over 300,000 km/sec. Setterfield, of course, ignored the fact that 1600 measurement devices were hardly at the level they are today and that the scientists had allowed for a large margin of error that included today's known constant "C." He then published these findings, much to the happiness of CSers and IDers everywhere. The moment someone investigated, though, his fraud was discovered. If you wish to read Setterfield's original erroneous 'study', tis cited here: (Setterfield, 1981, cited in Strahler, 1990, p. 116). (AN EXCELLENT ARGUMENT FOR ...oh)

And I thought it was the evolution side of the argument that was supposed to be close-minded? If it can't be explained, don't immediately make it into the "God did it" argument, and if you do - be damned sure you can back it up with a reasonable explanation. Otherwise, you're a drone. And people don't listen to drones.

140 posted on 06/22/2003 7:05:31 PM PDT by Derrald
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