[mrplind]

No, I'm thinkin' if Hillary gets the DNC nod in 08, we need to put Condy Rice up there, and if she doesn't win, we'll play the race card!!!

[Fatalis]

First off, sorry for the Vanity.

Are not.

[RWR8189]

McCain/Guliani will be the 2008 ticket.

I don't like it too much, and it is the day after the election in 2004, but that's how I see it coming down.

[gobucks]

nutshell analysis: rudy won't make thru the primaries; evanglicals own the process and rudy is way to pro abortion and he knows this.

[Prime Choice]

The last thing the Republican Party needs to do now is offer up a pro-abortion, anti-gun RINO.

You want to see the Conservative base sit out an election? Keep this crap up.

[traumer]

Watch out Rudy...

[AC in KC]

I totally agree.

Guillianni as a social liberal may "sell" in NYC, but he'll fail miserably in the heartland of America.

[Capt. Jake]

Sorry, but it is way too early for that and I have not gotten enough sleep to think about it. Right now I am just deeply grateful to Rudy for tirelessly campaigning for our president. He is a good man. We can discuss his presidential qualities later.

[SuziQ]

I think Rudy needs to run against Hillary when she comes up for re-election to the Senate in 2006. He would do much better running in a more liberal state than trying to convince conservatives nationally to support him.

[Valpal1]

You're right.

[My back yard]

Gosh you are a glutton for punishment? I need to get over the '04, take a few days breather, relax, ya know?

[HairOfTheDog]

sorry for the Vanity

Really honest people don't apologize ~before~ they do something.

Lay off on 08. Have we ~nothing~ to do now for the next 4 years but campaign for 08?

[Moconservative]

McCain is probably in the best position right now for 2008 except for his age may be a factor. He has the MSM in his pocket and he does have some devoted followers. I am not one but there are people who like him.

[glock rocks]

I will not vote for Rudy. The Republicans will ignore their gun owning Christian base at their own peril, Red Queen or not.

[Reagan Man]

It's no secret that social conservatives/Christian conservatives, do not support pro-choice candidates. And the major reason people supported PresBush, was for his moral stance on the issues and his efforts in the WoT. So I wouldn't consider Rudi Giuliani, or another social liberal, a good candidate for the 2008 GOP nomination.

[sinkspur]

Why are you posting this nonsense today? Rudy Guiliani did a great service for George W. Bush in helping him get elected, yet you're jumping offside trying to take him down a notch.

I resent your vanity posting. It's stupid.

[PhiKapMom]

Why post this now? Let us enjoy winning yesterday and forget about 2008 for awhile. I was part of a group of people that the 2000 campaign never ended and I sure could care less right now who we nominate in 2008 -- it is too far away and a lot can change.

Do you think that everyone can cut the crap on who we nominate in 2008 for awhile?

[Batrachian]

Giuliani can never be nominated in today's Republican party, which is thoroughly conservative at the grass roots level. If that worries you than you can rest easy. It won't happen.

It's a shame that he's so liberal because otherwise he would make an excellent candidate. He's certainly a top-notch executive.

[Ostlandr]

I'm already planning "Duke/Powell '08" bumper stickers.

(That's David Duke and Colin Powell.)

Seriously, not a Rudy fan myself- hey, I'm from (upstate) NY- I know how far left you have to run to get elected in this state- take a look at JFKerry and Chucky Schumer's margins of victory here. I really can't see the RNC going with Giuliani. Even with him on the ticket, having been a popular and successful NYC mayor, the Libs downstate are never going to go republican in numbers significant enough to make NY a red state.
If we can get the constitution amended in time, how about:
"Schwarzenegger/Rice '08"
I also think, when Dick Cheney retires due to ill health in the next year or two, Bush should appoint either Condi or Colin as VP. That would immediately tear a huge, bleeding hole in the democrat base, and expose the rest of the "black community" as the socialist demagogues they truly are.

[Ragnorak]

Long before September 11th, Rudy proved to be an amazing leader. NYC under Dinkins needed to climb up to wallow in its own sewers. Rudy fixed that in a year.

He saw the 1993 WTC bombing (happened under Dinkins) and had the vision to see we needed the Office of Emergency Management despite the press and the liberals hammering him for wasting time and money to create it. That office and its planning was at the center of NYC's response to September 11th.

The RINO nonsense you hear is a myth. If you need proof, if Rudy was really a liberal Republican the press would worship him like McCain instead of calling him a Nazi. They only start calling him a liberal when the topic shifts to 2008.

You also have to remember that Rudy was Mayor of a city that went for Kerry by a 4 to 1 margin. Rudy may not crusade against abortion or gay marriage, but that's a far cry from supporting it like a liberal would. Those views comes from a libertarian philosophy not a liberal one.

I watched Rudy govern for 8 years, trust me, he has conservative values. If you had to listen to all the press conferences where Rudy verbally smacked around liberals with victim complexes you would understand. Let me paraphrase a real example: "Look I'm very sorry that her son died, but the police officers he was shooting at have mothers too. Instead of blaming the police maybe she should think about what role she played in raising a son who felt it was OK to steal other people's property and try and kill police officers." (Honest, this is what we have to deal with in NY.)

Rudy could absolutely win a national election.