Posted on 04/24/2006 7:25:48 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
A group of Christian conservatives is urging Gov. Joe Manchin to reject a federally mandated digitized driver's license law, comparing the bar-coded national ID program to the "mark of the beast."
Fourteen members of the group that opposes the federal Real ID Act of 2005 met with Division of Motor Vehicles Commissioner Joseph Cicchirillo, governor's office lawyer Joe Ward and Manchin legislative aide Jim Pitrolo for more than an hour on April 5.
Pastor Ervin "Butch" Paugh, a 57-year-old Nicholas County preacher who heads the group, said last week that the new driver's licenses are unconstitutional, invade people's privacy and conflict with Christian beliefs. He said the federal government is trying to create a "police state" with the new ID law.
"This is a total takeover by the beast system and a plan to ID everyone on the planet," said Paugh, who has a nationally syndicated radio show called "Call to Decision." "This will make someone a criminal if they don't sacrifice their Christian convictions."
The Real ID Act, which Congress approved last year, will take effect in 2008. States must comply with the regulations, according to Cicchirillo.
"The issue at hand is the protection of our citizens," he said in a letter to Paugh.
Department of Transportation spokeswoman Susan Watkins said DMV officials are "still reviewing and evaluating" Paugh's criticism of the standardized ID program.
"At this point no decisions have been made," Watkins said.
Last month, New Hampshire's House members overwhelmingly voted to bar the state from taking part in the national ID program. The New Hampshire Senate is expected to debate a similar bill.
The liberal American Civil Liberties Union and conservative Cato Institute also oppose the federally standardized driver's licenses. Libertarian party members across the country have spoken out against the Real ID Act.
The new law establishes national standards for state-issued driver's licenses and ID cards. Some call the new driver's licenses national ID cards because they require the approval of the Secretary of Homeland Security.
Each license or ID card must include the person's name, address, signature, date of birth, gender, and a digital photograph of the person's face. Applicants also must submit more documentation for identification purposes than most states now require.
Each state also must share its database with all other states. The database must include the basic information on the license, along with drivers' histories, including motor vehicle violations, suspensions and points on licenses.
The new law gives the secretary of Homeland Security the power to require additional details on state driver's licenses.
By May 2008, federal agencies will accept driver's licenses as identification only from states that comply with the new law. So residents who don't have the new IDs won't be allowed to board a plane or enter a federal building without one.
Paugh predicts that the federal government will require that digitized thumbprints, facial and eye scans, and DNA information be included on driver's licenses. He believes hundreds of thousands of Americans will refuse the new standardized driver's licenses.
"I don't want the information about my personal life put in a public record for anybody to get a hold of who can hack into a computer," Paugh said. "If I give my uniqueness to a beast system, I can never get it back. The beast system will eventually kill all those who follow it."
The Bible's book of Revelation describes the beast system and "mark of the beast," warning that numbering people signals the arrival of the Antichrist. People who accept the mark are defying God, Paugh believes.
Paugh's group includes conservative Christians from Nicholas, Kanawha, Harrison, Randolph counties, and Canada. They meet Saturdays at a member's house and Sundays at a motel room.
So residents who don't have the new IDs won't be allowed to board a plane or enter a federal building without one.
Hmmmm, no jury duty, no reporting to federal tax court, AND HEY! I can't go to federal prison, I won't have the new ID...../sarc
Not the only thing getting "Marked"
Just wait tel the thought chip is gets out of the lab.
Farm trucks must obtain Federal ID
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489145/posts
Amish oppose animal ID
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1485362/posts?page=53#53
National ID cards: REAL ID goes too far
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1487846/posts
NHRA News: Legislation threatens vehicle hobby industry
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/592530/posts
E-tracking, coming to a DMV near you [DOT wants to track your car wherever it goes]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1546825/posts
I remember my dad saying bar codes were the mark of the beast. He was always leery about those talking cash registers, too.
I'm curious to see how people are lured into accepting less individuality ... but heck, they don't ever have to have THAT mark.
Wow. Salami really is evil :)
I've read Revelation a few times recently. And related parts of Daniel, Ezekiel, Mathew, and Thessalonian. I do not see a compelling reason to believe in a pre tribulation rapture though.
For instance I have read Matthew chapter 24 vs 15 through 31. Notice the progression. The desecration of abominations written about by Daniel, then times of trouble as the world has never seen or ever will see again, then the sun fading out and stars falling from the sky, and finally the Coming of the Son of Man with the sound of a trumpet.
Revelation and Daniel both will put the desecration at time, times, and half a time (specifically three and a half years) after the covenant with many by the Antichrist. Then he will declare himself god in the high temple--which puts us after the scrolls and before the trumpets.
Now there are a few arguments that can be made for a pre tribulation rapture, but I just don't think they are as strong.
The bigger point is that you can't know exactly what the prophecy means until its come to pass. (note that Jesus said specifically in Mathew 24:36 that even He does not know the day, but only the Father). But I do think its fun to try to piece it together, and make my best guess.
I agree. This program certainly won't meet the criteria, but it could EASILY be an early step in a program that paves the way for the real thing.
MM
Perhaps they did.
However . . . social security numbers
did NOT have a world wide economic network able to prevent buying or selling without the ss# being in the palm or forehead.
The SLAG [SLAve taG] chip implant fulfills the Biblical prophecy rather thoroughly.
You can ignore the progress toward that end, if you wish.
You can also ignore the progress of the NWO puppet masters toward the global government destined to implement such an ID.
But I wouldn't recommend such denial, personally.
Uhhhhh, OK, so image dump declines to serve your hotlink.
Does the federal Real ID Act provide financial penalties such as "if your state refuses to comply with the Real ID Act, your state will lose federal highway funds and federal education funds"? If so, would states who pass anti-Real ID Act laws end be being successfully "pressured" into accepting it?
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