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What’s wrong with the children? Basically the children have started to show signs of insanity because the system that is raising them is nuts.

Yet another reason to NEVER turn children over to the government.

1 posted on 10/27/2006 2:42:46 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 10/27/2006 2:43:31 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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3 posted on 10/27/2006 2:44:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Lol! This article is a joke. ADD is real and the medications offer a crutch while people try to find other coping strategies. It has literally changed peoples lives and for the better. I'm not in favor of government requiring anything, but Ritalin is not a poison...


4 posted on 10/27/2006 2:45:31 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Amnesty_From_Government.htm)
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We had a cure for ADD/ADHD when I was growing up. Its called spanking. Worked every time.


5 posted on 10/27/2006 2:46:00 PM PDT by bella1 (Support the Minuteman Project.)
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To: wagglebee
When I went to public schools,(in the 70's) I'd say about half of us were showing ADHD symptoms. The reason was that they teach to the lowest common denominator so the faster kids are done and bored.

It used to make me so mad that they made the extremely poor readers read out loud. I never understood the purpose of that; was it to shame them into being better readers? Then while someone was stumbling over some word, everyone else had read the passage.
6 posted on 10/27/2006 2:48:19 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: wagglebee
Basically the children have started to show signs of insanity because the system that is raising them is nuts.

No. One of my kids was on it for many years. It saved his life as far as we are concerned. He was having a horrible time in school and nothing we did at home helped.

He eventually graduated from one of the top universities in the country with great grades and is working for a software company. This article is full of a lot of BS.

The government had nothing to do with putting him on it. He was at a private school and it was our decisions and wasn't even suggested by a teacher. When he started on it, the change in his schoolwork was instant and dramatic. It was a stable school and we are a stable family. Nothing was driving him nuts. He was born that way and we could tell immediately afteer he was born that he was going to be different. He never slept more than 6 hours in one day until he was in high school. He never took a nap. These are NOT exaggerations.

We are thankful for the help received from a doctor at the Cleveland Clinic.

11 posted on 10/27/2006 2:56:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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The author is:

Tom DeWeese is president of the American Policy Center and Editor of The DeWeese Report , 70 Main Street, Suite 23, Warrenton Virginia.
(540) 342-8911

Not a doctor. I am quite sceptical of widespread use of drugs like Ritilin.

Psychologists can't write prescriptions. They need an MD to do that.

So I for one, would be far more convinced by medical facts from a doctor, than from political ramblings from somebody jumping all around about Hillary Clinton.

As if she was behind the Ritilin abuse situation.


13 posted on 10/27/2006 3:06:27 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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The article is both right and wrong, there are many people who these drugs, such as ritalin, are godsends. They allow the person or student to focus on tasks and be productive when they would normally not be able to do so. I've worked in a pharmacy and was able to see the changes in people first hand (I sware half the people I worked with were medicated at times).

On the other hand I also had the druggies push their wares on me when I was in high school and jr high. The first diagnosis for depression was completely misdiagnosed, and after tossing the medication six months later my grades actually improved by a letter grade. The second diagnosis was more on point ADHD/Anxiety, and at the very least the anxiety part was correct. However I realized even as a freshman in highschool any medicating of the problem would eventially end up being a crutch and one that I wouldn't want to depend on. It was better to deal with it in the short term, and not have to worry about medicating it in the future.


14 posted on 10/27/2006 3:07:18 PM PDT by Brellium ("Thou shalt not shilly shally!" Aron Nimzowitsch)
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To: wagglebee
All you have to do is follow the money:


15 posted on 10/27/2006 3:07:57 PM PDT by StACase
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Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

18 posted on 10/27/2006 3:13:53 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: wagglebee
I've heard that people who have taken Ritalin as kids aren't allowed into the military. Has anyone else heard that?

I think the problem is that people are looking to science as God, not "The Lord"-and then they can't figure out why their solutions to problems don't work.
22 posted on 10/27/2006 4:17:53 PM PDT by kcbc2001
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It's really up to the parents to be informed about these drugs. And if you think the psychologist is a quack, then just don't go back and continue to get bad advice. Not all psychologists are the same, so you really have to find one that's right "for you" or "for your kid".

You don't have to choose drug therapy, but in some cases, it is beneficial.


24 posted on 10/27/2006 4:43:07 PM PDT by kcbc2001
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A lot of problems would be solved if kids got enough exercise. Kids just need to burn it off. Sitting in classrooms all day and then in front of the TV or X-box or whatever isn't going to help.


25 posted on 10/27/2006 4:49:09 PM PDT by ukie55
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bttt


52 posted on 10/29/2006 1:39:10 AM PDT by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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I think we're seeing an epidemic of learning disorders in kids but. Although I do believe actually ADD/ADHD exist I believe it is not as common as many think including the doctors who are misdiagnosing it on a massive scale. I do not think most of it is ADD/ADHD nor can the more likely problem be diagnosed by anyone in the mental health field.

There is a highly similar group of disorders that can produce ADD/ADHD type behavioral and learning issues but is not ADD/ADHD nor can it be treated with such drugs as Ritalin. Central Auditory {Visual} Processing Disorders are very real and have been proven to exist by Audiologist and Vestibular Researchers. Audiologist can not prescribe any medications. Here's a few links.

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Or to better understand what is going on this article helps also. COGNITIVE ASPECTS OF VESTIBULAR DISORDERS

The behavioral aspects in this are triggered by audio and visual environment. The epidemic is born of largely the technology boom. The disorders have been there but did not really cause issues until our newer technology got to the point of being on the edge of what many kids and adults can handle. It is also a major cause of Adult Panic Attacks or General Anxiety Disorder and it gets overlooked. Unfortunately the underlying cause {Vestibular Disorders} gets overlooked by shrinks and many GP's and the wrong treatment protocols began with SSRI's making the patients condition worse.

71 posted on 10/29/2006 9:29:48 AM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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7 million?
I would have thought the number would be higher.


72 posted on 10/29/2006 9:53:33 AM PST by napscoordinator
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I have read of Dr. Baughman recently. I'm currently reading a book by David. B. Stein, Ph.D., titled Unraveling the ADD/ADHD Fiasco, and I read his other book Ritalin is Not the Answer. He references Dr. Baughman's work, and Dr. Baughman has a testimonial for Stein's work on his website, www.drdavestein.com

My boys are just 2 and 4, but I can foresee the day when they are in school, the school will likely want to diagnose them as ADHD, but to me, they seem to be typical boys. I don't like the idea of putting medications into my boys just to control them! That's why I picked up Stein's books, he has a non-medication program called the Caregivers' Skills Program. Have you heard of it? I am trying to find out if anyone else has used it...but if my boys were ever diagnosed, I'd use his program before I'd give them thosemedications. I read on Stein's site that the FDA is considering putting "black box" warnings on the bottles. That is scary to me!


75 posted on 01/04/2007 8:12:57 AM PST by sarahdmills (ADD/ADHD,medication, unraveling, fiasco,david b. stein, psychologist,professor,longwood university,p)
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Woo Hoo! I own lots of pharmaceutical stock.


78 posted on 01/04/2007 8:30:13 AM PST by Wolfie
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Interesting. My wife was diagnosed with ADHD as well as my son in the last year. While neither are on Ritalin, they are on different drugs and we have all seen a significant improvement in the ability to focus and maintain control within their lives.

ADHD is real. The drugs help. I didn't believe before but I do now.

79 posted on 01/04/2007 8:36:45 AM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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