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An Analysis of the Ideas of Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul, and Tom Tancredo
Associated Content ^ | May 30, 2007 | G. Stolyarov II

Posted on 06/06/2007 3:05:08 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II

Three of the Republican presidential contenders -- Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul, and Tom Tancredo -- show promise as individuals who are largely devoted to limited government, individual rights, and sound policy.Each of them has numerous issues where their principled stances will appeal to the conservative voter base of the Republican Party. Each also has some ideas which I find flawed. To educate voters and lead to the most informed possible choices, here is an analysis of some of these three candidates' positions.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008election; elections; mikehuckabee; ronpaul; tancredo; tomtancredo
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To: SittinYonder
And probably Ron Paul should have been left out.

I don't know if you are only addressing the three in this article, but I think the fact that so many (Malkin, Hewitt, Saul Anuzis, etc.) have called for Paul's removal over Giuliani, a candidate that thinks we should fund child murder, is very telling with regards to their priorities.

21 posted on 06/07/2007 2:38:07 PM PDT by Tim Long (Ron Paul/Tom Tancredo 2008 Hope for America: Be a Part of It)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Very well said.


22 posted on 06/07/2007 2:44:04 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: Tim Long

I’m only referring to this article.

I like Ron Paul. I disagree with him on some of what he’s said about the WOT, although I do agree that we should have had a declaration of war.

I think Paul has a place in the debates and his message on domestic issues and the Constitution is one that needs to be heard, but I think his approach to foreign policy is an unworkable solution to our current Islamic troubles.


23 posted on 06/07/2007 2:44:58 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: Lurker
A devastating critique if it were true. But since it isn't your statement has all the impact of a beer fart in a whirlwind.

Paul has expressed his belief that the Islamists are attacking us because of our foreign policy going back to the 1950s.

A quick look at the history of Islam demonstrates that the Islamists have been attacking us and Western Civilization since Mohammed was old enough to lift a sword.

The radical Muslims who want us dead want us dead because it is, as Tancredo said, a dictate of their religion.

Paul's assertions that our foreign policy has brought them to this point just aren't correct.

I have for a long time been a fan of Ron Paul's. His stance on the Constitution is correct. And he is correct that there should have been a formal declaration of war before Afghanistan.

However, unless I misunderstand his positions, his judgement of the threat posed by the Islamists and his unwillingness to actively engage them on foreign soil are unacceptable in my opinion.

If you think Paul would fight the Islamists, then perhaps you know something about his position that I don't.

24 posted on 06/07/2007 3:03:58 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: SittinYonder
However, unless I misunderstand his positions,

You do. A quick perusal of his website is all that's necessary to correct that.

If you think Paul would fight the Islamists, then perhaps you know something about his position that I don't.

Apparently I do.

L

25 posted on 06/07/2007 3:05:41 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Lurker
You do. A quick perusal of his website is all that's necessary to correct that.

I've looked at his website. I'm not somebody who's never heard of Paul before the debates and jumped on the Gotta-Support-Bush-Bash-Paul bandwagon.

Paul gives no indication how he would actively pursue and fight Islamists. He just says we've screwed up with our foreign policy (which is another point I don't argue). My argument with Paul is that the jihadists are coming for us regardless of our foreign policy, and they always have been.

If you've got a link to something he has said that makes you think he would fight the Islamists, I'd be grateful to see it.

Here's what I get from his website:

The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information. The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it. We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them. This war has cost more than 3,000 American lives, thousands of seriously wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars. We must have new leadership in the White House to ensure this never happens again.

Both Jefferson and Washington warned us about entangling ourselves in the affairs of other nations. Today, we have troops in 130 countries. We are spread so thin that we have too few troops defending America. And now, there are new calls for a draft of our young men and women.

We can continue to fund and fight no-win police actions around the globe, or we can refocus on securing America and bring the troops home. No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution.

Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations.

Too often we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised. Then, we become despised. Too often we have supported those who turn on us, like the Kosovars who aid Islamic terrorists, or the Afghan jihads themselves, and their friend Osama bin Laden. We armed and trained them, and now we’re paying the price.

At the same time, we must not isolate ourselves. The generosity of the American people has been felt around the globe. Many have thanked God for it, in many languages. Let us have a strong America, conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations.

There's not much there for me to disagree with as it is stated. But there's no indication that he would actively fight the Islamists. I don't like the way Bush has restrained our troops in Iraq, but I do think that Iraq is the right place for us to be fighting for a multitude of reasons.

26 posted on 06/07/2007 3:32:51 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: SittinYonder
His unwillingness to take the fight to an enemy who wants us dead simply for being infidels is not the leadership we need today.

Blah blah same old anti-Paul talking point. That's why he supported Reagan's military defenses & voted in favor of the initial phase of the WOT.

And he served in the military himself.

27 posted on 06/07/2007 4:02:00 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Nicely done, sir.


28 posted on 06/07/2007 5:43:57 PM PDT by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
I have had it with the pseudocons, who gave us 8 years of W. I will "throw my vote away" on an independent or third-party candidate rather than vote "evil" or "evil light." Maybe we can rescue the word "conservative" and restore it to mean something more than a mercantilist, militarist, socialist statist. Otherwise, when asked if I am a "conservative" I will have to start answering "hell no, and I am proud of it."

Couldn't have said it better myself. Blackbird.

29 posted on 06/07/2007 6:11:38 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: SittinYonder

How can you describe Hunter as a “limited government conservative” when he voted for the prescription drugs boondogle and is also quite a pork-barreler?


30 posted on 06/08/2007 1:47:30 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
How can you describe Hunter as a “limited government conservative” when he voted for the prescription drugs boondogle and is also quite a pork-barreler?

This is one of the reasons Hunter is not my first pick. But Hunter is far better than most of the others running in '08. I like Tancredo, who voted against prescription drugs for everybody and No Child Left Behind.

But put Hunter up against Huckabee, Giuliani, McCain, Romney or Thompson, and you've got a limited government conservative.

31 posted on 06/08/2007 2:44:36 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Audio: John Gibson goes thermonuclear on Truthers (and Ron Paul supporters) arrested at GOP debate
Since Ron Paul is not a "9/11 Truther", it is just the idiot wind flapping through Gibson's teeth.

Nice try on the smear by association tactic though

Thanks for your vigilance.

32 posted on 06/09/2007 11:12:11 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: KDD
Lieutenant General Douglas Lute, a skeptic of the troop increase in Iraq and President George W. Bush's choice to oversee the war, said withdrawing troops may pressure the Iraqi government to make needed changes.

20 posted on 06/07/2007 3:46:20 PM EDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)

Hopefully they will do it without our tax dollars, too.

33 posted on 06/09/2007 11:14:41 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Tim Long; OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush; cva66snipe; Jeremydmccann; t_skoz
I don't know if you are only addressing the three in this article, but I think the fact that so many (Malkin, Hewitt, Saul Anuzis, etc.) have called for Paul's removal over Giuliani, a candidate that thinks we should fund child murder, is very telling with regards to their priorities.

That is an excellent point.

34 posted on 06/09/2007 11:17:37 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
Agreed in full. Thank you for the eloquent statement.

I am
G. Stolyarov II

35 posted on 06/09/2007 11:48:44 AM PDT by G. Stolyarov II (http://rationalargumentator.com)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
How can you describe Hunter as a “limited government conservative” when he voted for the prescription drugs boondogle and is also quite a pork-barreler?

I have seen several make his claim about Hunter, and I was prone to believe it until I learned more about his record.

36 posted on 06/09/2007 11:54:21 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: G. Stolyarov II
I am VERY sorry to be the one to inform you that you are incorrect when you say that "Mike Huckabee wishes to simplify the U. S. income tax structure by supporting a flat tax...".

What Mike Huckabee in fact supports, and I entirely agree with him on the point, is the throwing of the ENTIRE income tax code onto the ash heap of history, where it properly belongs, and replacing it with a point of retail sale only sales tax.

You can learn all you would ever need to know about the proposal that Mike Huckabee endorses at the Americans for Fair Taxation website.

37 posted on 06/09/2007 12:16:31 PM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: SittinYonder
“Duncan Hunter is the third limited government, conservative who should have been included over Huckabee, IMO.”




I agree that Huckabee should not have been listed as a limited government conservative, but neither should Hunter. His record on government spending is not something that warrants such inclusion.

38 posted on 06/10/2007 6:56:45 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: SittinYonder

“I think Paul has a place in the debates and his message on domestic issues and the Constitution is one that needs to be heard, but I think his approach to foreign policy is an unworkable solution to our current Islamic troubles”

I agree.


39 posted on 06/10/2007 7:00:39 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

“I have had it with the pseudocons, who gave us 8 years of W. I will “throw my vote away” on an independent or third-party candidate rather than vote “evil” or “evil light.””

BTTT!


40 posted on 06/10/2007 1:49:25 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("What a cruel reflection that a rich country cannot long be a free one." --Thomas Jefferson)
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