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Men's News Daily ^ | June 7, 2007 | The Gonz Man

Posted on 06/07/2007 6:49:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81

Stupid Men

June 7, 2007 at 6:04 pm · Filed under Sex & Relationships, Mating, Marriage & Divorce, Feminism, Child Support & Custody, Vox Populi

I’m going to give you the highlights of a very unfunny joke.

A man is married for 8 years, and comes home one night to “the talk.” The one about the relationship, about the need for space, (I have a boyfriend, and it’s getting to hard to cover it up) – a lot of us know the drill. So, he agrees to move out “for a while” to “work on the relationship.”

Fast forward a couple months. Honeybunch is getting irritated at him “just dropping by” to spend time with his kids or pick them up (Again, read “How can I have my new thang over here when you might catch us and make me look bad?”) and after one marriage counseling session he’s hit with the double whammy. A divorce suit and – you guessed it – an ex-parte restraining order.

Let’s review real quick – go to my “Divorce Self-Defense 101” article from a few years back, and catalogue the errors that have been made.

Okay. One error you missed – because I didn’t tell you – is that Schmuckly here has yet – after almost 3 months! – to secure the services of an attorney. Let alone listen to said lawyer.

It’s at this point that Dingleberry gets himself drunk, tries to call her – Thank God she changed the phone number – and so he calls me to drive him over there. I manage to talk him out of it. I get him insensible, and in the morning when hung over and his resistance is low, I convince him to call an attorney. I convince him to part with the $2500 dollars he’s been saving for Sweetie-dumpling-who-has-just-backstabbed-me’s “real engagement ring.” She’s not going to need it or wear it.

This lawyer – from a prestigious law firm specializing in Men and Divorce – advises him that he has a hearing on the restraining order in three weeks, and to tough it out. After a couple days of interviewing people who knew them and the marriage, he informs him that he can get the TRO nullified, and get him mandated visitation – maybe even split custody in the interim. Just be patient.

This lasts 3 more days. So what does Dumbass do?

He buys two dozen roses, and goes to where she works. He asks to see her. He makes the receptionist deliver the flowers. He goes back into the private offices. He gets her to “agree” to “Not now – I’m at work. *I’LL CALL YOU* about lunch and we can talk…”

Dippysquat goes out to his car, starts it, and puts it in reverse about the time two police cars and a sheriff zoom in, and draw down on him. Of course, Cuddlebuns is standing behind the door of the office, looking stricken and fearful, being comforted, while the fat lesbian secretary is out waiving the restraining order at the officers. El Stupido is quickly slammed on the ground with a shotgun trained on him, cuffed and put in a paddy wagon.

I don’t think I need to break out the crayolas here, do I? No bail. No hearing till the next week. Of course he’s calling me and whining about “I need to get out!” – what the hell can I do? He CALLS HER WORK (Dammit!) collect from jail – THREE TIMES!!! And by the time he goes in front of a judge he’s given 30 days in jail. Which he does two weeks of for good behavior, including his time served. Needless to say, when he goes before the judge on the TRO, the once slam dunk nullification of it turns into a 1 year extension, and his visitation is now supervised.

But, hey – fugginay – he’s RIGHT. She’s WRONG. He didn’t do ANYTHING. He doesn’t deserve this. She lied. All true. Just as true as the pedestrian who walks out in front of the speeding truck because they have the “walk” light.

Absolutely right. Dead right.

So where is Senor Idiote today, four months later? He’s fired his attorney, because he didn’t like the advice. He’s become Mr. Chivalry, acceding to every demand “for his children.” (Though it seems that fighting to stay in their lives and BE A DAMN FATHER TO THEM doesn’t occur to him.) He’s lost his job – being in jail for two weeks does that. Given up his house. Had his car repossessed. Is paying $600 a month for supervised visitation he doesn’t go to - but Mr. Probono thinks he’ll get custody of the kids in the end “because he’s right, she’s a bitch, I didn’t do nuthin…” even though he doesn’t – oh, what is the term – BOTHER TO EVEN SEE THEM? It’s “just too humiliating.”

Oh – and he’s mad at me. I talked him into spending the money for the ring he still wants to get this bitch, so I’m a SOB who gave him bad advice. He didn’t follow it, got screwed doing it his way instead of mine, but it was bad advice. He’s a new MRA convert, though. All gung-ho about how unfair it all is. I expect I’ll see him on the net anytime – if he gets a job, a place to live, and his computer hooked up – talking about how “Gonzo gave me advice I ignored so he screwed up my life” which is the tune he’s been singing these past five or six months.

Yeah. I understand he’s a brother. He’s hurting. Been there.

He’s still as dumb as a bag of hair. Stupid. Just butt-stupid. Ever hear the joke about the preacher in the flood who turns away a guy in a truck, a boat, and a helicopter because “God Will Provide?” When he drowns and stands before the Lord, he asks, “What happened?” and God replies “Look, I sent you a truck, a boat, and a helicopter – what do you want?”

Yeah, I know. Blaming the victim. Yeah, I know. Co-operating with a corrupt system. I’ve heard it all. I’ve heard it from him – know what I told him?

“So how’s that whole not seeing your kids at all working for ya?”

Yes, Virginia, the system sucks. Until you replace it, it is what you have to work with. Drop out of it and not support it? Fine and dandy – but first you have to get to a place where it can’t touch you. Fight against it? Do it from within the system or outside of it. Hint: If you plan on working outside, buy lots of ammunition – it is the only way that will have any effect.

Hey – if you can snatch your kids away to some country which won’t extradite you, more power to you. Until you can do that, though, you’re kind of stuck. Not seeing your kids, and not being there for them – out of some sense of martyrdom – not real bright, if you ask me – but if your pride is more important than flesh of your flesh… Well, whatever.

But you are walking out on your kids then, and when the Femherroids make that charge on you, the shoe fits. You’re not helping. Joe Moron who added to the “Stalkers who violate TRO’s” stat? He doesn’t help either. Find a way to cut off your nose to spite your face that doesn’t ruin it for your brothers, what say?

I’m not on the side of shitheel men. Cheat on your wife, you’re just as wrong as an adulterous woman. Beat her? Beat your kids? Molest your kids? To hell with you. I may give a lot of men the benefit of the doubt because groundless charges are so frequently made, and I will preach to the ends of the earth that feminists way, way, way overstate the frequency of such things. This doesn’t mean such men don’t exist, and I am not going to “be like a feminist” and defend men who are like that. We laughed and sneered at the Feminazis in Dallas who stood up for Andrea Yates, the child-murderer so we need to be as accountable.

I’ve had a few guys who did crap like this and then come to me or write me. Well, what do you want? St. Gonz to intercede? I got real falsely accused men, real guys who have got the shaft for no reason, real guys willing to take guidance and get better than what they fear – I have time for you why? You did it? Suck it up and take your lumps. Ignored good advice? I tell you the same thing I’d tell a Britney Spears walking around in downtown Detroit in her pantiless miniskirtness: What do you expect, DUMBASS?

I am frankly appalled and flabbergasted at times by the blinkered and self-defeating attitude many men have. We have one guy running around who is constantly harping on the “Antipeonage Act.” Okay. I agree. It should apply. You know and I know that jailing men for child support is nothing less than debtor’s prison. Trouble is, the courts have rationalized and used legal and semantic masturbation to dismiss it. It is not going to work. They are not going to listen to you. They are going to say, “Doesn’t apply, you’re being jailed for contempt, not owing money” wham, bam. It has been argued. It has failed. Time to move on.

There is bias in the courts, and I am not going to say there isn’t. As men, we walk into family court at a disadvantage, and have an obstacle to overcome – in some places a small hop, in others a steep hill, and in some we are uckedfay. (Pig Latin).

But better than half our problems are attitude. Your biggest bias is in how the laws are set up, and in how you think.

As men, our nature is to protect – protect females, protect our young. Forget all the crap about “the female is deadlier than the male” or “lionesses and their cubs.” It’s crap, feel good, make the girl feel better bullshit. We see it over and over; feces hits the fan, women grab kids and run like scared rabbits, and Joe Dweeb the accountant grabs a stick and turns into Conan. It is built into you, hardwired, and reinforced by society.

No? Ask ya something, then. If a man broke a contract with you, and started proceedings to take your stuff, what would you do? Roll over? Or would you hire an attorney and rip his lungs out legally?

What I thought.

Somehow, get puddin-pop the contract breaker trying to steal your kids and your life’s work and savings, and you get all tender, and chivalrous, and say “Okay.” You’ll look like the bad guy. You don’t want to put your kids through it. You don’t want to drag the mother of your kids through it.

Well, why the hell not? She’s doing it to you. Lifetime TV is going to make a movie on how brave she is.

You’ve been schnooked. You’ve been painted into a corner where the only way you won’t “look bad” is to be a doormat and “Yes ma’am” her for the next 20 years. (And you may still look bad.) Any other move, and you’re a rat bastard.

So … be a bitch. It’s why she wins so often. She treats you like the enemy and goes into court to KICK YOUR ASS. Most men go in with some other purpose in mind.

Know what kind of men win? The ones who scream and leap for the throat. Who destroy not only her ability to wage war, but her will to do so.

No, you haven’t been taught to do this. No, you don’t have the “You GO, Grrrrrrrl!” chorus to support you. But guess what?

First time she loses a motion – well – that isn’t in the script.

Hardest thing for men – you need to beat you, first. You need to swallow your pride and get a lawyer – AND DO WHAT THEY SAY. You may have to hunt for a lawyer. The same one who will hint around that she should allege something false and horrible against you will suddenly find ethics if you are the client. You may have to interview a dozen before you find one who will go for the soft underbelly of her. I did in my second marriage.

You need to say no. No, I am not leaving the house – YOU leave. No, you are not taking the kids. No, you are not taking our furniture.

You have to be aware you are now under a microscope and behave accordingly, no matter how unfair it is that you have to behave twice as good as her to get half the regard. No drinking – the police, when she calls them, are going to ask “Have you been drinking?” They are not going to ask “Have you only had two beers over the last three hours?” If you answer yes – they will treat you like someone who is drunk. If you answer no, you are a liar. They will use that as their excuse to haul you off.

She will try to push your buttons. Swallow your pride and let her run her mouth. If you’re not drunk, disorderly, or threatening, they cannot make you leave. They will ask you to. Say “no.” Insist that the kids have their room, clothes, and all that here, school tomorrow, and she’s not getting them out of bed and taking them to Mommy’s. Stick to your guns. You will be badgered.

Have your attorney on speed dial on your cell. Nothing make a cop behave like “I’m an attorney and this is my client…” It strikes fear in their hearts.

This does not acknowledge the system as being “right.” It is wrong. It is messed up badly.

It is also the way it is, and the only game in town. Unless you’re one for a rifle and a Bell Tower, you have to play. Fail to play, and you lose. Again – that is the way it is.

The courts determine only winners and losers. Decide what you want to be. Deal with it. Grow up.

Until the laws get reformed, it is what you have to play with – these are the cards you have been dealt. Changing the system will take time. Probably more than you have if you are reading this in 2007.

It may be done in increments. Don’t be a dumbass like the Libertarians (I am one, so I can say that) and expect total reform instantly or it’s useless.

Adjust your attitude. Chivalry is one thing, but an entitlement of one-sided chivalry is useless. Its day has passed. Let it be buried. This is the age of equality. That means you too, in not having to put up with crap.

Be pragmatic and prioritize, for pity’s sake. Number one: Your kids need their Dad – you are not replaceable. Number two: You need your kids – they are not replaceable. Everything else takes a back seat. Her relationship with them is her problem – doesn’t even hit your list. Your property? Lower. “Getting the bitch?” Dead last. If you’re of a mind to that, it’s not a goal, it’s gravy. Let her do it to herself, and stand back while she ties the rope. Be more worried about being in the position to be magnanimous – then be magnanimous (Not a doormat!). It’ll make you look good, and piss her off.

Let her worry about being stupid then. Like I said, losing isn’t in her script. She will rarely disappoint you.

Our best weapon is taking these things, these unfair laws and attitudes, and turning them around and making them cut the other way. When the teeth of the law start biting women, they will howl for change, and scream “Uncle.” We are going through this in Indiana right now, and I plan to highlight and publicize how the new law – allowing them to seize assets, tax checks, and garnishee wages of live ins for child support – is hurting women. This will inflame public outrage. I will happily use women against feminists. I will happily create more women who see feminism and their man-hatred as dangerous to women. Feminism is already a five-letter word to a lot of the younger generation – I hear five, and I want four.

Men have got to take their power back, and there is no way to do it but to do it. Gents, we are a minority. One the dating scene – for every 10 attached women, there is one floating around free. Know what that does? It gives you power – please me, or there is another who will.

Push for male birth control – and use it. We can stomp out paternity fraud, and trap pregnancies, in one generation. If not for you, for your sons and brothers.

Start filing Title IX suits. Start using “Anti-Discrimination” laws to shut down women-only spaces.

Use the courts. Clog them up. Petition for review of custody, of child support, even if you know things won’t change. Show up. Shut down the machinery of misandry.

You men who have custody – go after deadbeat moms. Make the state – make feminist inspired laws – hurt women. No matter how much it sucks, that is the only way they will pay attention to how draconian the laws are. That is the only way they will review them. I didn’t, and I regret it. No more Mister Nice Guy.

We can break them. We just have to be smart, and stop being stupid.


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To: Clemenza
More dangerous than an AR-15, but some of us like it that way. ;-)

I am reminded that Raquel Welch is of Latin descent (born Jo Raquel Tejada; her father was Bolivian, her mother Irish-American) and this helps me to maintain an open mind toward dating opportunities with those who may hail from Southern climes  :-)

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51 posted on 06/07/2007 9:32:31 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: WriterInTX
Got a gastric by-pass

So hubby was right; she was a fat ugly cow.

52 posted on 06/07/2007 9:32:43 PM PDT by neuron2
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Beside’s the pettiness of his statement he is grammatically ignorant in his efforts. It is an analogy not a metaphor.
53 posted on 06/07/2007 9:37:20 PM PDT by P90X (Bring It)
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To: buccaneer81

Don’t trust your spouse. Ever.


54 posted on 06/07/2007 9:40:34 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Stoat

I’ll give you one piece of advice. Marry your second wife first. :)


55 posted on 06/07/2007 9:47:39 PM PDT by fowb
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To: fowb
I’ll give you one piece of advice. Marry your second wife first. :)

LMAO!

56 posted on 06/07/2007 9:50:06 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: buccaneer81

When our son’s first wife left him, he got a very good woman lawyer. She steered him very well through the whole process and he still has a mostly amicable relationship with the ex and has most of the time with the daughter. The ex wanted freedom to live how she wanted, already had another boyfriend. Anyway, our son has remarried now. We pray that this doesn’t happen again.


57 posted on 06/07/2007 9:56:04 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Radix

I think that I’d rather read more of Hemingway than I would of this silly thread.”

I read this and thought, then go read more about Hemingway, but then I see post 27 and you’re still here reading and posting, so does that make you a liar?


58 posted on 06/07/2007 9:57:41 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: OldPossum
... he doesn't seem to have learned his own lesson ...

As Dr. Johnson said, hitting close to home, “the triumph of hope over experience.”

59 posted on 06/07/2007 10:05:37 PM PDT by dighton
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To: annelizly

If it was your brother and his cheatin’ wife, well we can guess.. Sexist.


60 posted on 06/07/2007 10:38:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Stoat

curious you weren’t near as hard line about your own faith. if so, you’d have never married the pagan.


61 posted on 06/07/2007 10:42:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
curious you weren’t near as hard line about your own faith. if so, you’d have never married the pagan.

Last time I checked, Redemption was a Christian virtue, as is Forgiveness..  She was true to her beliefs and I to mine, and so our ways parted.

62 posted on 06/07/2007 11:29:29 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Thank you. I needed that on a Friday afternoon (where I’m at). It was worth cleaning Coke off my screen for.

But, he still needs to work in lyrics about his dog dying and his pickup truck breaking down to make it a CMA winner.


63 posted on 06/07/2007 11:35:41 PM PDT by AF_Blue (Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus)
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To: Stoat

had you been truer you’d never have dated or married. you know, unequally yoked with nonbeliever and all that “rot.”


64 posted on 06/07/2007 11:38:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
had you been truer you’d never have dated or married. you know, unequally yoked with nonbeliever and all that “rot.”

You may wish to consider reading posts a bit more carefully before you so eagerly judge others in such a harsh way.  We never married, and if you think that a person who converts to Christianity is less of a Christian than others, then there are a great many people of faith who would take issue with you.

65 posted on 06/07/2007 11:50:21 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Oh, you were not the brutish near-Islamist. It sounded as if you had gotten really sucked in. So sorry.


66 posted on 06/07/2007 11:54:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: annelizly

The divorce system in our country favord the most ruthless party. That’s the sad part. Once we move to the no-fault system, it essentially became the screw-the-more-innocent system.


67 posted on 06/08/2007 1:28:09 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: buccaneer81

Reminds me of something I have heard before. Don’t get married. Find a woman that you absolutely despise, give her your house and most of your possessions, and start paying her every month.


68 posted on 06/08/2007 4:35:17 AM PDT by seemoAR (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
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To: Clemenza

Thats funny!!!

I married a latina...Oy! Caramba!

And I still had to buy a shopping spree...Only it costs me $100 or so...At the dollar store...

I guess in about 2-3 years, I can open my own dollar store...Or open a booth at the Flea Market...

But I’d probably only make $23 in profit...;-)


69 posted on 06/08/2007 5:53:59 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Do not have sex till you’re married.”

As evidenced by this and smiliar threads, that is no longer sure fire protection.


70 posted on 06/08/2007 12:36:35 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: annelizly

Kinda of hard to be there for your kids when a large majority of men have a restraining order filed against them. Seems to be the second step after the divorce is filed. The wife’s lawyer will advise this as the first step in showing the bad behavior of the father.

Father can’t win. If he follows the restraining order, he can’t see his kids. If he doesn’t follow the restraining order to see his kids now, he will lose in court and possibly lose custody rights. What can the father do if the wife doesn’t let him see the kids. OK schedule a court date and another 5-6 months go by before you see your kids. Some dads just give up.

Of course there are those jerks who totally disappear and forget they have kids.


71 posted on 06/08/2007 12:50:51 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: Michael.SF.
"Hemingway wrote novels shorter then this post."

I suspect a woman wrote this.
I don't know any men who could tell such a long, pointless, whiney, story.
With the possible exception of Christopher Lowell and ALgore.

I GET it.
men - stupid
fire - hot
cat turds - tasty...

Facts of life.

72 posted on 06/08/2007 12:57:24 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where liberals wash their hands....)
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To: Radix
"I’d rather read stuff from a guy who shot himself in the head, than read crap that will make me want to shoot my own self in the head."

I believe the "GUY" who wrote this article DID shoot himself in the head, just before writing this piece.

73 posted on 06/08/2007 1:03:51 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where liberals wash their hands....)
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To: buccaneer81
ALL MEN! Read this now!

I love all the Holier Than Thou guys here who don't think this could happen to them! LMFAO!!!!

IF THIS HAPPENS TO YOU, STAY SOBER!!!!!

74 posted on 06/08/2007 1:08:41 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: annelizly
what an ASS!!!! She could take the whole thing but no,

This article was written exactly because of chicks like you.

75 posted on 06/08/2007 1:13:20 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: WriterInTX
That was it. Now it's war. She's going for the jugular, and I'm shouting encouragement all the way. She has proof of his infidelity going back years and she wants EVERYTHING.

GOOD! Me too! Infidelity should be a felony.

76 posted on 06/08/2007 1:21:36 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: no dems
This is a Masterpiece. Thanks.

My pleasure, FRiend. I'm a former Stupid Man and I don't want to see any more guys fall victim to this scam.

77 posted on 06/08/2007 4:28:04 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: annelizly
The system doesn’t look as though it is biased towards women to me. men are usually the ones with the high paying careers. The women have given birth to the children, ruining their bodies and making them less appealing on the open market:) They usually have the responsibility of finishing raising the children which does put a crimp in any sort of dating. the man can walk away and get along with a one bedroom apartment, the women usually don’t have that luxery. men usually just keep working the job they have. women have to go out and start a whole new career all the while trying to raise children all on their own. Most divorced men don’t seem to be all that jacked up about being there for their kids once they divorce

You're a real piece of work. I pay $805 a month in support for one child. I see him FOUR days a month. She cheated, she left, kept her 50k a year job and has THREE cars less than three years old in her driveway. I spent $40,000 to fight for my son. I have no say in his upbringing and it's jail for me if I have the misfortune of losing my job.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about, lady.

78 posted on 06/08/2007 4:55:22 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: art_rocks

Well, I mean it’s not too smart, on more than one level, to say “ha ha on her, I’ll just go alley cat around and teach her a lesson.” The sexual licentiousness of modern American society is great, but at least one can personally refrain from pooping in the same punch.


79 posted on 06/08/2007 6:53:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: dogbrain

Who said anything before about litterbox tootsie rolls?


80 posted on 06/08/2007 6:56:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: dogbrain
LOL

You may very well be right!

81 posted on 06/09/2007 9:46:26 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: philetus
"I read this and thought, then go read more about Hemingway, but then I see post 27 and you’re still here reading and posting, so does that make you a liar?

It just makes me stupid. I sure hope that is all it does.

Thanks for playing.

Regards.

82 posted on 06/11/2007 4:51:37 PM PDT by Radix (Claim 10 dependents on your W-2 and have the Gov't struggle to make ends meet.)
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