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Posted on 06/07/2007 6:49:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81
June 7, 2007 at 6:04 pm · Filed under Sex & Relationships, Mating, Marriage & Divorce, Feminism, Child Support & Custody, Vox Populi
Im going to give you the highlights of a very unfunny joke.
A man is married for 8 years, and comes home one night to the talk. The one about the relationship, about the need for space, (I have a boyfriend, and its getting to hard to cover it up) a lot of us know the drill. So, he agrees to move out for a while to work on the relationship.
Fast forward a couple months. Honeybunch is getting irritated at him just dropping by to spend time with his kids or pick them up (Again, read How can I have my new thang over here when you might catch us and make me look bad?) and after one marriage counseling session hes hit with the double whammy. A divorce suit and you guessed it an ex-parte restraining order.
Lets review real quick go to my Divorce Self-Defense 101 article from a few years back, and catalogue the errors that have been made.
Okay. One error you missed because I didnt tell you is that Schmuckly here has yet after almost 3 months! to secure the services of an attorney. Let alone listen to said lawyer.
Its at this point that Dingleberry gets himself drunk, tries to call her Thank God she changed the phone number and so he calls me to drive him over there. I manage to talk him out of it. I get him insensible, and in the morning when hung over and his resistance is low, I convince him to call an attorney. I convince him to part with the $2500 dollars hes been saving for Sweetie-dumpling-who-has-just-backstabbed-mes real engagement ring. Shes not going to need it or wear it.
This lawyer from a prestigious law firm specializing in Men and Divorce advises him that he has a hearing on the restraining order in three weeks, and to tough it out. After a couple days of interviewing people who knew them and the marriage, he informs him that he can get the TRO nullified, and get him mandated visitation maybe even split custody in the interim. Just be patient.
This lasts 3 more days. So what does Dumbass do?
He buys two dozen roses, and goes to where she works. He asks to see her. He makes the receptionist deliver the flowers. He goes back into the private offices. He gets her to agree to Not now Im at work. *ILL CALL YOU* about lunch and we can talk
Dippysquat goes out to his car, starts it, and puts it in reverse about the time two police cars and a sheriff zoom in, and draw down on him. Of course, Cuddlebuns is standing behind the door of the office, looking stricken and fearful, being comforted, while the fat lesbian secretary is out waiving the restraining order at the officers. El Stupido is quickly slammed on the ground with a shotgun trained on him, cuffed and put in a paddy wagon.
I dont think I need to break out the crayolas here, do I? No bail. No hearing till the next week. Of course hes calling me and whining about I need to get out! what the hell can I do? He CALLS HER WORK (Dammit!) collect from jail THREE TIMES!!! And by the time he goes in front of a judge hes given 30 days in jail. Which he does two weeks of for good behavior, including his time served. Needless to say, when he goes before the judge on the TRO, the once slam dunk nullification of it turns into a 1 year extension, and his visitation is now supervised.
But, hey fugginay hes RIGHT. Shes WRONG. He didnt do ANYTHING. He doesnt deserve this. She lied. All true. Just as true as the pedestrian who walks out in front of the speeding truck because they have the walk light.
Absolutely right. Dead right.
So where is Senor Idiote today, four months later? Hes fired his attorney, because he didnt like the advice. Hes become Mr. Chivalry, acceding to every demand for his children. (Though it seems that fighting to stay in their lives and BE A DAMN FATHER TO THEM doesnt occur to him.) Hes lost his job being in jail for two weeks does that. Given up his house. Had his car repossessed. Is paying $600 a month for supervised visitation he doesnt go to - but Mr. Probono thinks hell get custody of the kids in the end because hes right, shes a bitch, I didnt do nuthin even though he doesnt oh, what is the term BOTHER TO EVEN SEE THEM? Its just too humiliating.
Oh and hes mad at me. I talked him into spending the money for the ring he still wants to get this bitch, so Im a SOB who gave him bad advice. He didnt follow it, got screwed doing it his way instead of mine, but it was bad advice. Hes a new MRA convert, though. All gung-ho about how unfair it all is. I expect Ill see him on the net anytime if he gets a job, a place to live, and his computer hooked up talking about how Gonzo gave me advice I ignored so he screwed up my life which is the tune hes been singing these past five or six months.
Yeah. I understand hes a brother. Hes hurting. Been there.
Hes still as dumb as a bag of hair. Stupid. Just butt-stupid. Ever hear the joke about the preacher in the flood who turns away a guy in a truck, a boat, and a helicopter because God Will Provide? When he drowns and stands before the Lord, he asks, What happened? and God replies Look, I sent you a truck, a boat, and a helicopter what do you want?
Yeah, I know. Blaming the victim. Yeah, I know. Co-operating with a corrupt system. Ive heard it all. Ive heard it from him know what I told him?
So hows that whole not seeing your kids at all working for ya?
Yes, Virginia, the system sucks. Until you replace it, it is what you have to work with. Drop out of it and not support it? Fine and dandy but first you have to get to a place where it cant touch you. Fight against it? Do it from within the system or outside of it. Hint: If you plan on working outside, buy lots of ammunition it is the only way that will have any effect.
Hey if you can snatch your kids away to some country which wont extradite you, more power to you. Until you can do that, though, youre kind of stuck. Not seeing your kids, and not being there for them out of some sense of martyrdom not real bright, if you ask me but if your pride is more important than flesh of your flesh Well, whatever.
But you are walking out on your kids then, and when the Femherroids make that charge on you, the shoe fits. Youre not helping. Joe Moron who added to the Stalkers who violate TROs stat? He doesnt help either. Find a way to cut off your nose to spite your face that doesnt ruin it for your brothers, what say?
Im not on the side of shitheel men. Cheat on your wife, youre just as wrong as an adulterous woman. Beat her? Beat your kids? Molest your kids? To hell with you. I may give a lot of men the benefit of the doubt because groundless charges are so frequently made, and I will preach to the ends of the earth that feminists way, way, way overstate the frequency of such things. This doesnt mean such men dont exist, and I am not going to be like a feminist and defend men who are like that. We laughed and sneered at the Feminazis in Dallas who stood up for Andrea Yates, the child-murderer so we need to be as accountable.
Ive had a few guys who did crap like this and then come to me or write me. Well, what do you want? St. Gonz to intercede? I got real falsely accused men, real guys who have got the shaft for no reason, real guys willing to take guidance and get better than what they fear I have time for you why? You did it? Suck it up and take your lumps. Ignored good advice? I tell you the same thing Id tell a Britney Spears walking around in downtown Detroit in her pantiless miniskirtness: What do you expect, DUMBASS?
I am frankly appalled and flabbergasted at times by the blinkered and self-defeating attitude many men have. We have one guy running around who is constantly harping on the Antipeonage Act. Okay. I agree. It should apply. You know and I know that jailing men for child support is nothing less than debtors prison. Trouble is, the courts have rationalized and used legal and semantic masturbation to dismiss it. It is not going to work. They are not going to listen to you. They are going to say, Doesnt apply, youre being jailed for contempt, not owing money wham, bam. It has been argued. It has failed. Time to move on.
There is bias in the courts, and I am not going to say there isnt. As men, we walk into family court at a disadvantage, and have an obstacle to overcome in some places a small hop, in others a steep hill, and in some we are uckedfay. (Pig Latin).
But better than half our problems are attitude. Your biggest bias is in how the laws are set up, and in how you think.
As men, our nature is to protect protect females, protect our young. Forget all the crap about the female is deadlier than the male or lionesses and their cubs. Its crap, feel good, make the girl feel better bullshit. We see it over and over; feces hits the fan, women grab kids and run like scared rabbits, and Joe Dweeb the accountant grabs a stick and turns into Conan. It is built into you, hardwired, and reinforced by society.
No? Ask ya something, then. If a man broke a contract with you, and started proceedings to take your stuff, what would you do? Roll over? Or would you hire an attorney and rip his lungs out legally?
What I thought.
Somehow, get puddin-pop the contract breaker trying to steal your kids and your lifes work and savings, and you get all tender, and chivalrous, and say Okay. Youll look like the bad guy. You dont want to put your kids through it. You dont want to drag the mother of your kids through it.
Well, why the hell not? Shes doing it to you. Lifetime TV is going to make a movie on how brave she is.
Youve been schnooked. Youve been painted into a corner where the only way you wont look bad is to be a doormat and Yes maam her for the next 20 years. (And you may still look bad.) Any other move, and youre a rat bastard.
So be a bitch. Its why she wins so often. She treats you like the enemy and goes into court to KICK YOUR ASS. Most men go in with some other purpose in mind.
Know what kind of men win? The ones who scream and leap for the throat. Who destroy not only her ability to wage war, but her will to do so.
No, you havent been taught to do this. No, you dont have the You GO, Grrrrrrrl! chorus to support you. But guess what?
First time she loses a motion well that isnt in the script.
Hardest thing for men you need to beat you, first. You need to swallow your pride and get a lawyer AND DO WHAT THEY SAY. You may have to hunt for a lawyer. The same one who will hint around that she should allege something false and horrible against you will suddenly find ethics if you are the client. You may have to interview a dozen before you find one who will go for the soft underbelly of her. I did in my second marriage.
You need to say no. No, I am not leaving the house YOU leave. No, you are not taking the kids. No, you are not taking our furniture.
You have to be aware you are now under a microscope and behave accordingly, no matter how unfair it is that you have to behave twice as good as her to get half the regard. No drinking the police, when she calls them, are going to ask Have you been drinking? They are not going to ask Have you only had two beers over the last three hours? If you answer yes they will treat you like someone who is drunk. If you answer no, you are a liar. They will use that as their excuse to haul you off.
She will try to push your buttons. Swallow your pride and let her run her mouth. If youre not drunk, disorderly, or threatening, they cannot make you leave. They will ask you to. Say no. Insist that the kids have their room, clothes, and all that here, school tomorrow, and shes not getting them out of bed and taking them to Mommys. Stick to your guns. You will be badgered.
Have your attorney on speed dial on your cell. Nothing make a cop behave like Im an attorney and this is my client It strikes fear in their hearts.
This does not acknowledge the system as being right. It is wrong. It is messed up badly.
It is also the way it is, and the only game in town. Unless youre one for a rifle and a Bell Tower, you have to play. Fail to play, and you lose. Again that is the way it is.
The courts determine only winners and losers. Decide what you want to be. Deal with it. Grow up.
Until the laws get reformed, it is what you have to play with these are the cards you have been dealt. Changing the system will take time. Probably more than you have if you are reading this in 2007.
It may be done in increments. Dont be a dumbass like the Libertarians (I am one, so I can say that) and expect total reform instantly or its useless.
Adjust your attitude. Chivalry is one thing, but an entitlement of one-sided chivalry is useless. Its day has passed. Let it be buried. This is the age of equality. That means you too, in not having to put up with crap.
Be pragmatic and prioritize, for pitys sake. Number one: Your kids need their Dad you are not replaceable. Number two: You need your kids they are not replaceable. Everything else takes a back seat. Her relationship with them is her problem doesnt even hit your list. Your property? Lower. Getting the bitch? Dead last. If youre of a mind to that, its not a goal, its gravy. Let her do it to herself, and stand back while she ties the rope. Be more worried about being in the position to be magnanimous then be magnanimous (Not a doormat!). Itll make you look good, and piss her off.
Let her worry about being stupid then. Like I said, losing isnt in her script. She will rarely disappoint you.
Our best weapon is taking these things, these unfair laws and attitudes, and turning them around and making them cut the other way. When the teeth of the law start biting women, they will howl for change, and scream Uncle. We are going through this in Indiana right now, and I plan to highlight and publicize how the new law allowing them to seize assets, tax checks, and garnishee wages of live ins for child support is hurting women. This will inflame public outrage. I will happily use women against feminists. I will happily create more women who see feminism and their man-hatred as dangerous to women. Feminism is already a five-letter word to a lot of the younger generation I hear five, and I want four.
Men have got to take their power back, and there is no way to do it but to do it. Gents, we are a minority. One the dating scene for every 10 attached women, there is one floating around free. Know what that does? It gives you power please me, or there is another who will.
Push for male birth control and use it. We can stomp out paternity fraud, and trap pregnancies, in one generation. If not for you, for your sons and brothers.
Start filing Title IX suits. Start using Anti-Discrimination laws to shut down women-only spaces.
Use the courts. Clog them up. Petition for review of custody, of child support, even if you know things wont change. Show up. Shut down the machinery of misandry.
You men who have custody go after deadbeat moms. Make the state make feminist inspired laws hurt women. No matter how much it sucks, that is the only way they will pay attention to how draconian the laws are. That is the only way they will review them. I didnt, and I regret it. No more Mister Nice Guy.
We can break them. We just have to be smart, and stop being stupid.
I am reminded that Raquel Welch is of Latin descent (born Jo Raquel Tejada; her father was Bolivian, her mother Irish-American) and this helps me to maintain an open mind toward dating opportunities with those who may hail from Southern climes :-)
So hubby was right; she was a fat ugly cow.
Don’t trust your spouse. Ever.
I’ll give you one piece of advice. Marry your second wife first. :)
When our son’s first wife left him, he got a very good woman lawyer. She steered him very well through the whole process and he still has a mostly amicable relationship with the ex and has most of the time with the daughter. The ex wanted freedom to live how she wanted, already had another boyfriend. Anyway, our son has remarried now. We pray that this doesn’t happen again.
I think that Id rather read more of Hemingway than I would of this silly thread.”
I read this and thought, then go read more about Hemingway, but then I see post 27 and you’re still here reading and posting, so does that make you a liar?
As Dr. Johnson said, hitting close to home, the triumph of hope over experience.
If it was your brother and his cheatin’ wife, well we can guess.. Sexist.
curious you weren’t near as hard line about your own faith. if so, you’d have never married the pagan.
Last time I checked, Redemption was a Christian virtue, as is Forgiveness.. She was true to her beliefs and I to mine, and so our ways parted.
Thank you. I needed that on a Friday afternoon (where I’m at). It was worth cleaning Coke off my screen for.
But, he still needs to work in lyrics about his dog dying and his pickup truck breaking down to make it a CMA winner.
had you been truer you’d never have dated or married. you know, unequally yoked with nonbeliever and all that “rot.”
You may wish to consider reading posts a bit more carefully before you so eagerly judge others in such a harsh way. We never married, and if you think that a person who converts to Christianity is less of a Christian than others, then there are a great many people of faith who would take issue with you.
Oh, you were not the brutish near-Islamist. It sounded as if you had gotten really sucked in. So sorry.
The divorce system in our country favord the most ruthless party. That’s the sad part. Once we move to the no-fault system, it essentially became the screw-the-more-innocent system.
Reminds me of something I have heard before. Don’t get married. Find a woman that you absolutely despise, give her your house and most of your possessions, and start paying her every month.
I married a latina...Oy! Caramba!
And I still had to buy a shopping spree...Only it costs me $100 or so...At the dollar store...
I guess in about 2-3 years, I can open my own dollar store...Or open a booth at the Flea Market...
But I’d probably only make $23 in profit...;-)
“Do not have sex till youre married.”
As evidenced by this and smiliar threads, that is no longer sure fire protection.
Kinda of hard to be there for your kids when a large majority of men have a restraining order filed against them. Seems to be the second step after the divorce is filed. The wife’s lawyer will advise this as the first step in showing the bad behavior of the father.
Father can’t win. If he follows the restraining order, he can’t see his kids. If he doesn’t follow the restraining order to see his kids now, he will lose in court and possibly lose custody rights. What can the father do if the wife doesn’t let him see the kids. OK schedule a court date and another 5-6 months go by before you see your kids. Some dads just give up.
Of course there are those jerks who totally disappear and forget they have kids.
I suspect a woman wrote this.
I don't know any men who could tell such a long, pointless, whiney, story.
With the possible exception of Christopher Lowell and ALgore.
I GET it.
men - stupid
fire - hot
cat turds - tasty...
Facts of life.
I believe the "GUY" who wrote this article DID shoot himself in the head, just before writing this piece.
I love all the Holier Than Thou guys here who don't think this could happen to them! LMFAO!!!!
IF THIS HAPPENS TO YOU, STAY SOBER!!!!!
This article was written exactly because of chicks like you.
GOOD! Me too! Infidelity should be a felony.
My pleasure, FRiend. I'm a former Stupid Man and I don't want to see any more guys fall victim to this scam.
You're a real piece of work. I pay $805 a month in support for one child. I see him FOUR days a month. She cheated, she left, kept her 50k a year job and has THREE cars less than three years old in her driveway. I spent $40,000 to fight for my son. I have no say in his upbringing and it's jail for me if I have the misfortune of losing my job.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about, lady.
Well, I mean it’s not too smart, on more than one level, to say “ha ha on her, I’ll just go alley cat around and teach her a lesson.” The sexual licentiousness of modern American society is great, but at least one can personally refrain from pooping in the same punch.
Who said anything before about litterbox tootsie rolls?
You may very well be right!
It just makes me stupid. I sure hope that is all it does.
Thanks for playing.
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