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To: socialismisinsidious
Still if the above is true then why hide it? Why doesn't he just release his birth certificate?

Why should he? It's irrelevant, and he can watch people make fools of themselves about it.

Unless you can prove that his mother was not a natural born citizen of the US, he can have faked birth certificates from Mars. It doesn't matter.

149 posted on 07/03/2008 5:51:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone; socialismisinsidious; xzins
Unless you can prove that his mother was not a natural born citizen of the US, he can have faked birth certificates from Mars. It doesn't matter.

Not necessarily so.

This is a Supreme Court decision from the year that Obama was supposedly born.

Montana v. Kennedy, 366 U.S. 308 (1961): A person born in 1906, whose mother was a native-born citizen of the United States and whose father was a foreign citizen, who was born overseas and then moved to the United States, was not a citizen of the United States by birth.

157 posted on 07/03/2008 5:56:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Dog Gone
Why should he? It's irrelevant, and he can watch people make fools of themselves about it.

And then, after the storm has been whipped up, he can pull out the real one ("'scuze me while I whip this out!" just went through my head!) and say, "These people are nuts! I'm so persecuted!"

171 posted on 07/03/2008 6:01:43 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Dog Gone
I still think it's not WHERE he was born that he'd like not to be made public, but other information on the BC = like was his name listed as BHO or Barry Dunham - and he changed it later, to Muslim names, and when and why =

OR, why is the actual entry for his father's race? On this one, it's listed as "African."

"African" is not a race and would not have been listed as such. Many people of all colors and races are born in Africa.

Perhaps the real BC reveals his parents weren't married at the time....

I think he was probably born in Hawaii, but it's other info he wants to keep from disclosure.

Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

see link:

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

200 posted on 07/03/2008 6:20:21 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: Dog Gone
Unless you can prove that his mother was not a natural born citizen of the US, he can have faked birth certificates from Mars. It doesn't matter.

Looks like maybe you are serious or think you are.

Article II, Sec. 1, Par. 4 of the U S Constitution provides that to be eligible to serve as president of the United States, a citizen must be "natural born" which means under the authorities, born in the U S.

In addition, to be a citizen at all, if born outside the U S, a person must be born to two parents who are both U S Citizens, or if born to two parents, only one of whom is a U S Citizen, that U S Citizen parent must have met certain requirements prior to the birth regarding residency under 8 USCA Sec. 1401. Stanley Ann Dunham did not meet the requirements of 8 USCA Sec. 1401--thus if Obama was born outside the US, he isn't even a citizen much less eligible to serve as president.

None of this is rumors or misrepresentation or any form of negative politics; the above sets forth the law.

The facts are that the only evidence that Obama was born in the US is a fraudulent birth certificate, fake on its face. He doesn't appear in Hawaii Vital Statistics of the day under his current name or any of the historical names he used (Barry Dunham, etc.). The hospital originally cited as his place of birth was not constructed until several years after he was born. No doctor, nurse or anyone else with any knowledge of his birth has come forward to say so. One of his grandfather's wives, Sarah, together with two of his half-siblings are widely quoted as having been present at his birth in Kenya. Also reported is a story about his mother being refused transportation to the US at the end of her pregnancy. Ms. Dunham's girlfriends on Mercer Island are quoted to the effect that she was out of the country when he was born. Wayne Madsen reports in an update that his actual birth records have been located and show his birth as taking place in Kenya.

The record, at least, makes a fair inference that he was born in Kenya and is not eligible to the Presidency--he is not even a citizen of the U S.

325 posted on 07/03/2008 7:51:14 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Dog Gone

It will matter to some of the people of this country. You see with so many negatives already surrounding Obama,it could make a difference to those riding the fence.


1,362 posted on 07/05/2008 12:30:49 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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