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1 posted on 07/04/2008 2:11:17 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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It isn’t the purpose of government to direct the efforts of citizens, it is the purpose of government to protect the right of a citizen to direct his own efforts as he sees fit.

I like the idea of citizens serving citizens. There is a name for it, when its voluntary: its called free enterprise. Thats what capitalism is, free citizens serving free citizens.

If you don’t want to charge for your efforts, thats your business. Lots of people do favors for one another all the time. Its as natural as getting up in the morning. Forcing someone to do you a favor, however, is violence against that person.


2 posted on 07/04/2008 2:19:53 PM PDT by marron
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They’ll have to send me to jail or maybe a re-education camp before I let my kids become serfs or slaves of the state. Screw obama!


3 posted on 07/04/2008 2:31:22 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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Exactly why the country has been greatly improved by the volunteer armed forces.


4 posted on 07/04/2008 2:38:40 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: moneyrunner

Will everyone have to work for free or just legal citizens?

Does this mean that prisoners can be forced into labor again?


5 posted on 07/04/2008 2:57:14 PM PDT by weegee (CHANGE? A more truthful slogan would be to proclaim Obama the candidate of FLIP FLOP.)
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Any such public service would be un-constitutional. Government can compel you to perform some kind of service, but they have to pay you for it. Given how corrupt our federal courts are, I dont count on the court striking such law down..

If this ever becomes law, it’s time to start thinking of an exit strategy from this land...


7 posted on 07/04/2008 3:18:16 PM PDT by doomtrooper99
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To: moneyrunner; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; ...

Nanny State Ping.

I am not happy about John McCain being the nominee, but the alternative is far worse in my personal opinion.


8 posted on 07/04/2008 3:19:20 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my dad I'm a lobbyist, he thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: moneyrunner
I think Americans should volunteer for the military or do to service on its behalf to keep our country strong, proud and free. But that's the one type of service that will be reviled by the Left.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 07/04/2008 3:23:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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"...I will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year..."

....And they better sell every vial they are given.

10 posted on 07/04/2008 3:28:15 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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The local school district already has a community service requirement. 60 hours or no diploma.

In the past they have credited purely partisan activities such as participating in the demonstrations in favor of - but not against - amnesty for illegal immigrants.


11 posted on 07/04/2008 3:29:30 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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What kind of “community service”?
Why does delivering hot meals to crack houses come to mind?


14 posted on 07/04/2008 3:44:30 PM PDT by djf (I don't believe in perpetual motion. Perpetual mutton, that's another thing entirely!)
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Does “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” ring any bells.


16 posted on 07/04/2008 3:57:51 PM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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Those engaged in forced service to the state should also wear armbands. I suggest a democrat donkey rather than the nazi cross.


17 posted on 07/04/2008 4:33:55 PM PDT by Need4Truth
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Notice that Hussein is using Federal aid as a club to enforce this serfdom on local jurisdictions. Notice also that he wants to expand the Federal involvement with “faith-based” service activities. That was one of Bush’s most stupid mistakes. He opened the door to Federal regulation and control of one of the last remaining independent and private social programs: those run by churches. Obama will drive a tank through that door, using Federal control to advance the leftist agenda, whether it’s “gay rights,” pro-Muslim multiculturalism, etc. We will see huge grants to outfits like Jeremiah Wright’s church and Father Pfleger’s, and punishment of organizations like Focus on the Family. The remaining freedom of the church will be destroyed.


18 posted on 07/04/2008 4:34:55 PM PDT by hellbender
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Aha! Obama is proposing a multi-ethnic, multicultural plantation.

If college students have to perform service for the State, then the State should free the students from their excessive college loans.

19 posted on 07/04/2008 4:38:43 PM PDT by magooey (stop the bs, fight the war!)
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All non-exempt kids will be force to join where they be taught to be citizens and how to vote.


22 posted on 07/04/2008 4:57:17 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama's idea of trickle-down economics is to piss on business.)
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Lear Jet Leftists, Limousine Liberals....they are so smart!!!

Socialism, Communism have failed everywhere it has ever been tried....in their minds the only reason it failed was because somebody as smart as they are wasn’t in charge. Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin....all dumb asses.

If somebody as smart as them were around, Socialism would have worked.


28 posted on 07/04/2008 6:24:48 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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bttt


31 posted on 07/04/2008 6:56:19 PM PDT by SuperLuminal
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Private schools have been foisting this on kids for 20 years. I was forced to do it in the late 80’s. 50 hours as a junior. 100 hours as a senior. If you didn’t comply you didn’t get a diploma.

meh. It’s all communist crap meant to teach you that you are lucky to have what you have and you need to be taxed via your time to appease those who have power over you.

Those of us who weren’t well-off and had to work to pay for our cars were really screwed. How could you work, play sports, study, go to school, chase girls, AND do community service?


34 posted on 07/04/2008 7:19:29 PM PDT by laxcoach
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Got another link to his comments? Websense at my work doesn’t allow me to view blogs.


37 posted on 07/04/2008 8:43:41 PM PDT by Lusis ("Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.")
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