Posted on 10/07/2008 2:02:58 PM PDT by moopie1
pinging you to the latest on the endless BirthCertificate saga.
When will it ever end?
Why would Obama do this? How does he benifit from NOT doing the right thing?
More importantly whyn would the Democrat National Poltical Machine allow him to go on like this without putting this question to an end with THE ONLY MEANS that would do so - a legit/ legal documented birth certificate.
Even more importantly what happens if this man is NOT a US citizen and does somehow manage to get elected? What happens 6 months later when proof that he is not a citizen is uncovered?
We the people get Biden because Obama gets impeached or charged or whatever? WHY? Biden would not have been the VP if not chosen by the perosn that would be getting impeached.
Another election?
What a freakin nightmare. One really has to wonder what the Democrats are thinking. if this goes belly up down the road the Democrat Party would be finished..
Not that this would be a bad thing but meanwhile America and its citizens get the shaft as usual.....
"Protective orders barring discovery until standing is established are normally used only when the discovery would result in disclosure of damaging or embarassing information not related to the case at hand. The only thing in contention here is Obama's citizenship. The production of documents proving his citizenship would stop the suit dead in its tracks and there would be no further discovery or action. So, Senator Obama, enough already. Produce an official copy of your birth certificate
"He does not have a birth certificate except from Mombasa. If he can just get this delayed until after the election, which at this point it looks as though he will win, then he will carry sway to create conditions which will prevent investigations, which could most assuredly lead to violence at the intimation of his losing his "win".
I don't think Obama is at that much risk, just look what his cousin Odinga did, after loosing elections, he got his supporters on the streets to fight. As terrorist disrespecting American flag, anthem, Constitution etc. he may be waiting for the right moment. Democrats created doo doo without clean way out. Maybe Obama is already threatening with calling brothers for violence if anything will go against "his greatness"... don't underestimate his ego.
"This is twilight zone! Democrats are pushing America in to biggest crises ever, this may just end up with civil war."
A day. A week. What happens if this takes years to find out? Is he required to show this before he gets put on the ballot? I am trying to ask the question without asking it if you know what I mean.
Anyone think to see if he has a Kenyan birth certificate?
I remember all of the brouhaha over Kerry not releasing his military records, and the upshot of it was that they revealed he got lower grades than Bush while in college. BFD.
If it occurs before the election, he would be immediately disqualified (following the necessarily expedited trip all the way to the SCOTUS). The Democratic National Committee is empowered to name a replacement candidate, which would undoubtedly be Hillary! Clinton.
If he wins the election and this occurs before the inauguration, we'd again have the legal whirl, followed by the election being thrown into the House (which would most likely select Hillary!).
If he wins and is inaugurated, then Obama will be forced out of office (again after the legal stuff) and Joe Biden becomes president in accordance with established rules of succession.
My guess ... if this bears any kind of fruit at all ... is that it would become an issue post-election. Hard to imagine that it would be resolved within the next month.
Two possibilities
He was born in Hawaii a couple of years earlier before Hawaii became a state
He was born outside the country and is not eligible to run
Probably so -- I seriously doubt there's anything to the 'citizenship' angle, but his reticence in producing the thing is becoming rather interesting.
If you'll hand me Mr. Occam's razor, I would suggest that the easist explanation is that there's nothing at all wrong with the BC; that they're waiting to see if it causes a serious controversy; and if so they'll wait until the Wednesday before the election to release it with, "see? Nothing to see here."
The idea would be to use that non-controversy, with its simple resolution, to provide a smoke-screen for the more serious questions about Obama's associates, past, and lack of qualifications.
The one "expedited" way for this to be quickly resolved is for a whistleblower in the Hawaii government to leak the vault copy of Obama's birth certificate, or to leak that there isn't one.
-PJ
-PJ
That would be explicitly illegal, and anybody who tried it would properly be arrested and imprisoned.
I doubt that there are any "whistleblowers" outside of the Islamic world who would be willing to go to those lengths for anybody.
Every one of us can go to our lock box and produce a valid birth certificate. Our children have to have one to play sports and enter school.
Why in the world is this not a requirement before someone runs for President of the United States?
I'd think that the courts would protect a whistleblower who violates personal data privacy laws in order to expose someone who is perpetuating a fraud under protection from those laws.
Data privacy laws cannot shield a person who is running for president under false pretenses, while jailing the person who exposed the fraud.
-PJ
Dozens of msm muck-rakers were dispatched to gin up the phony “Troopergate” story about Gov. Palin, but they can’t seem to get interested in this potentially explosive story about Barry Hussein. What a bunch of Democrat toadies!
Occam’s razor also behooves us to think of the teenaged pregnant girl whose parents were way out lefties who probably barely pooh-poohed daughter showing up with a half-African baby on board. There would be no reason for her to fly to Kenya to have the baby. One would think Obama senior would also not be so thrilled to bring home to his first wife his new white one, though he did that later on with his other new white wife...
You're right. And the law should fix responsbility for confirming the authenticity of the document with the original source.
We need Congress to introduce and pass this legislation.
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