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To: Charlie Fairbanks

I’ve been having a running dispute over this issue for 2 weeks with a colleague at work and 2 days ago he showed me a picture from factcheck.org with someone holding a birth certificate with the stamp and Obama’s name and the proper signature. The only thing I spotted that was suspicious was that it was a copy with an issue date of 2007. Does anyone have any background on this particular document?


12 posted on 11/29/2008 7:42:57 AM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: saganite

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28 posted on 11/29/2008 7:47:01 AM PST by CommieCutter (The BHO BC issue is like the Loch Ness monster; there's photos, witnesses, and stories.)
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To: saganite
It doesn't matter. When you look into the story there are two types of Hawaiian BC. The first is the long form the hospital fills out. That is the one that is locked away and no one can see.
The second is the short form. Hawaii would issue it to anyone including Obama if he was born in Kenya as long as mom was a US citizen. That is the one Fact Check said puts the matter to rest. Only it doesn't. Whether Kenya or Hawaii the short form would still show Hawaii.

What I want to know is why the press hasn't simply looked up the hospital and attending doctor and put this to rest. Is it because they can't? Are you telling me one newspaper can't check into the records and find out when he was born and where?
All it would take is the following: “Barak Obama was born in St. Francis Hospital at 10:25 local time. Dr. Smith was the attending physician.”

Why don't you see that?

32 posted on 11/29/2008 7:49:45 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: saganite
Don't pay any attention to anything "Fact" check says on this issue. All one has to do is look at their latest on their "born in the USA" site. Here is a quote:

"Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu."

That is a straight - out LIE. As anyone who has looked into what they director said, she NEVER said he was born in Honolulu - or Hawaii for that matter. Typical "Fact" check. They take a statement, slant it by putting their own interpretation on it, and make people think that is what was actually said. Just like with the COLB. First referring to it correctly as a Certification. Then later on, subtly changing it to Certificate and then referring to it as "the original" birth certificate. Factcheck has about as much credibility with checking the facts as the elephant that was guarding the peanut jar does when peanuts disappear and he claims he didn't know where they went.

34 posted on 11/29/2008 7:51:30 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: saganite

You said — “I’ve been having a running dispute over this issue for 2 weeks with a colleague at work and 2 days ago he showed me a picture from factcheck.org with someone holding a birth certificate with the stamp and Obama’s name and the proper signature. The only thing I spotted that was suspicious was that it was a copy with an issue date of 2007. Does anyone have any background on this particular document?”

LOL..., I see you’re new to this issue... :-)

There have been so many threads on this issue on Free Republic (before and after the election), all you’ve gotta do is read them. They’ll get you up to speed...


63 posted on 11/29/2008 8:18:38 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: saganite
Debunked documents discussed here

Besides, that is allegedly a Certification of Live Birth, not the long form birth certificate, which would show parentage and place of birth. In '61 you could get one of these from Hawaii without having actually been born there.

What DUH1 needs to provide, plain and simply, is no more nor less than my grandkids had to show to get into kindergarden.

For under $20, if he is a Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America, he gets to be POTUS, with no more questioning of his Constitutional qualifications to be there.

Instead he has spent over a million bucks to fight releasing the documents.

138 posted on 11/29/2008 11:39:53 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: saganite
I’ve been having a running dispute over this issue for 2 weeks with a colleague at work and 2 days ago he showed me a picture from factcheck.org with someone holding a birth certificate with the stamp and Obama’s name and the proper signature.

First off, the photo you were shown is not of a birth certificate, but a certificate of live birth, two different animals. But a more important point I'd like to make, have yet to have refuted, did you ask your colleague why factcheck posts a photo of a COLB that is wholly different from the one 0bama put on his own website? Why does that one have no folds, no stamp/embossing?? Why will no one from factcheck or 0bama's minions explain the discrepancy??

139 posted on 11/29/2008 11:41:53 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: saganite
Ask him if it was real, why won't Obama’s lawyers submit this document in court to stop the over a dozen court cases? Obi's guys won't do that because it is a fake and they will not commit legally binding fraud / perjury.
161 posted on 11/29/2008 6:17:28 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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