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FactCheck.org: Good Enough for the Supreme Court and MSM Why Not You?
Cross Action News ^ | 12-08-08 | JB Williams

Posted on 12/08/2008 12:31:52 PM PST by Victory111

Once again, the United States Supreme Court has decided that Article II – Section I of the Constitution, which establishes very specific eligibility requirements for anyone seeking the office of President, has no meaning in 2008. As reported by the Washington Post, the Supreme Court Declines to Hear Obama Nationality Case. They forgot to say, again…

As the Post points out, “The Supreme Court this morning unceremoniously declined to hear an emergency appeal from a man who claimed President-elect Barack Obama is not qualified for the presidency because he is not a “natural-born” citizen.”

(Excerpt) Read more at crossactionnews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama
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To: Smokin' Joe

I see, trying to be realistic is not permitted here, is that it?

I have been a Conservative longer than at least two of your lifetimes and identifying myself as such gives me the legal right and privilege to express my opinions as this forum advertises but apparently if I do not join the baaing sheep my views are suspect.


21 posted on 12/08/2008 2:02:16 PM PST by boxer21
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To: boxer21
I have been a Conservative longer than at least two of your lifetimes

How much you want to bet on that, puppy?

22 posted on 12/08/2008 2:13:12 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Victory111

George Bush won the Electoral vote in 2000 but lost the popular vote. So for the next four years the liberal-left held a cloud over his head, “Selected not Elected.”

Now BO will take the office with a cloud over his head, and one of his own making. The question of his birth and eligibility will hang there and continue to cause doubt. If there is no problem, why doesn’t he open it up to full inspection?

It will join a long list of undisclosed facts about this invisible man.


23 posted on 12/08/2008 2:17:15 PM PST by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: boxer21; Smokin' Joe
identifying myself as such gives me the legal right

People have been known to prevaricate.

24 posted on 12/08/2008 2:23:38 PM PST by LucyT
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To: gdani

Just to add what you were saying. Donofrio was suing that Obama had dual citizenship between US and UK due to his birth, which he feels would make Obama ineligible. He was not arguing that Obama was born outside of the US. Berg is the one bringing the case, AND THE PROOF, that Obama was born in Kenya. I would be willing to bet that SCOTUS will hear his case.


25 posted on 12/08/2008 2:26:36 PM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No.)
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3 words:

The Zapruder Film

Remember, the Warren Court found Arlen Specter’s magic bullet theory credible.


26 posted on 12/08/2008 2:35:13 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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To: stockpirate

You may be totally correct. I want to read the petition to the Court. There are times the Justices will not consider a case because of the way in which the case is worded or presented.

To be heard by the Justices, true Constitutional Lawyers need to be involved in this case.


27 posted on 12/08/2008 4:18:00 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: LucyT

Believe what you wish; I have no reason to attempt to play games. I have read some very significant posts and links to interesting articles; that is why I participate.

IMHO, our country is in an extremely vulnerable situation even without any terrorist attacks that will surely come; we all ought to try very hard to be patriotic, knowledgeable, positive citizens who can and must solve these problems unless we want our grandchildren to suffer terrible consequences.


28 posted on 12/08/2008 7:08:25 PM PST by boxer21
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To: boxer21; Smokin' Joe; porter_knorr; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; Kevmo; Candor7; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; ...

Have we another misogynist?

Or are you just a bully sent from Team 0bama who only picks on women. Why didn’t you address Smokin’Joe, too?

Perhaps you should check out my posting history. My posts are as serious as a heart attack. Click on my screen name and follow through. You will see I am not playing games; and don’t appreciated your insinuation.

Pinging backup.


29 posted on 12/08/2008 7:36:51 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

boxer21 11/10/08


30 posted on 12/08/2008 7:44:02 PM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: LucyT

If you have a problem, take it up with HR


31 posted on 12/08/2008 8:26:34 PM PST by boxer21
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To: boxer21

Who is HR?


32 posted on 12/08/2008 8:34:42 PM PST by LucyT
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To: null and void; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Candor7; seekthetruth; Calpernia

Thanks, null and void

See Post #30

I think that just about states the truth about this poster in a nutshell.

Thanks LucyT for all that you do for FreeRepublic.


33 posted on 12/08/2008 8:35:34 PM PST by Iowan
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To: LucyT

Human Relations; I was being sarcastic.

Look, I love women and always have, having worked with them all my working life. I did not mean to insult you if that is what you thought. I did not think to include the other person challengine me; I was going to ignore him and drop the subject rather than go on and on and on for no good reason when your post popped up.

I answered the question honestly and there was no intent to pick on you. I hope you will accept my apology.


34 posted on 12/08/2008 8:48:06 PM PST by boxer21
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To: null and void; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Candor7; seekthetruth; Calpernia

On the other hand, LucyT; after reading the other posts, just forget it. Guess I thought I was dealing with adults here and miscalculated. Have a nice day.


35 posted on 12/08/2008 8:52:14 PM PST by boxer21
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To: boxer21; LucyT; Iowan; BP2

Time to read and think about the best comment I have seen on FR for many a long day:

To: NoObamaFightForConservatives; Frantzie; BonRad; MHGinTN; Txngal; joygrace; flaglady47; ...

Sorry, NoObama, my response wasn’t to you. It was for all of those whiny cry babies that give up whenever there’s a setback. BTW, Leo Donofrio is filing a supplemental brief to his case, and there are a LOT more cases coming down the pike ... this is FAR from over!

A few weeks back, when Leo was being lauded for the sacrifices he’s made to get his SCOTUS case this far, he compared those of us in this fight to maintain our Constitution to a V-formation of Geese.

As we know, the same Goose is not at the front all of the time. The lead Goose brunts hardest flight, beaconed by the calls of those behind. When the lead Goose tires, it will fall back to take a rest. Instinctively, a different Goose will assume the position at the front of the V-formation. Geese can fly 70 percent farther by adopting the V-shape rather than flying in isolation.

That’s “Teamwork.”

It’s also “Self Sacrifice.”

For those of you who want to throw in the towel — thank you for your help to get this far. Take a breather, collect your thoughts, search your soul, but don’t fall out of formation. If you were at the front earlier this year, got frustrated and dropped out completely, we’d love for you to rejoin the formation.

I’m not giving up. I can’t. I see the day-to-day watering down of our Constitution and I know if I ignore it, I’m an accomplice. I know we are approaching a tipping point from which there will be no return. I will keep fighting until there is no fight left in me. I will continue to assert my First Amendment rights for as long as I have them.

If there’s a scintilla of citizenship and patriotism left in you, I hope you can join those of us who wish to maintain the Rule of Law. I hope you help defend our Constitution from those who wish to re-interpret the Framer’s wisdom. Because right now ... there aren’t a whole lot of people out there willing to stand up and *ACT* — to ensure our nation doesn’t squander what our Forefathers risked so much to pass on to us, our children, and our children’s children.

And all things being equal — I’d much rather be with a flock of Geese than a flock of Sheep.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2144892/posts?page=528#528

CLICK ON THE LINK AND READ IT IN THE ORIGINAL COLOURFULL HEARTFELT WAY THIS WAS POSTED.


36 posted on 12/08/2008 9:09:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: boxer21; Smokin' Joe; Iowan; null and void; Fred Nerks; BP2; justiceseeker93; Candor7; Polarik

You’ve definitely miscalculated. The only people answering you on this forum are adults.

You are using the ALINSKY method of disruption.

Please check out my tagline.


37 posted on 12/08/2008 9:23:09 PM PST by LucyT (..................I have no intention of going wobbly now.................)
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To: boxer21
I have been a Conservative longer than at least two of your lifetimes and identifying myself as such ...

Now, as Paul Harvey says, for the rest of the story.

I am a great grandfather. For you to have been a Conservative for more then two of my lifetimes would (assuming you really can't claim the title of 'Conservative' until you have voted that way) mean the first election you voted for the president in was, well, shall we say, before Teddy won (Rooseveldt, not that punk from Mass.)

Considering the last of the WWI veterans have pretty much disapeared, how is life after 140?

Did your sex drive suffer after the 'big 120'? Enquiring minds want to know!

Identifying yourself as such means you have a knack for jumping in with both feet without knowing the depth of the water.

There is a recent addition here with a very similar screen name, maybe you were thinking you were deriding that person.

Whatever. Your penchant for hyperbole and lack of homework tends to indicate you do crappy research, whatever you call yourself.

Reality is that, if the SCOTUS fails to vett Obama (the Ususrper?), he will be disregarded by a significant segment of the population whenever possible. His edicts and acts will be, in our minds, void of any legal authority.

The Supreme Court, the 'check and balance' of the judiciary will have rendered itself meaningless, and the final check, the final balance, which can save the Republic will be We the People.

Our troops abroad will be subject to being tried by any tinpot power which decides to take issue with the legality of their orders at the Hague, no treaty will be regarded as binding, no international agreement, no alliance, nor coalition will be valid, and any law he signs will be void.

Especially if the documents are leaked later and prove the doubts of the plaintifs to be warranted.

I think the court is waiting until the electors have met and they are in 'charted' territory insofar as having definite rules to place someone in the Office of the President. That would avoid some of the excuse for rioting the Obamites will percieve they have and also avoid the issues of partisan politics which would be levied should a Republican replace Obama.

Threats of riots alone should not stay the court. If they do, the Court will have relegated us to the status of the third world, where Odinga-like tactics cause the abandonment of the Rule of Law.

We don't want to go there.

38 posted on 12/08/2008 9:31:46 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: stockpirate

It is difficult to see how the standing argument would apply to Alan Keyes and the other litigants that are backed by the Gary Kreep outfit. They seemed to have focused on litigants with standing, where Donofrio seems to have been weak under the case law.


39 posted on 12/08/2008 9:37:21 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks, FredNerks

Excellent comment Ping.

Very moving.


40 posted on 12/08/2008 9:41:01 PM PST by Iowan
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