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1 posted on 12/14/2008 10:53:05 AM PST by Dr. Marten
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2 posted on 12/14/2008 10:56:45 AM PST by unkus
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Did the job drain through outsourcing to India and China have anything to do with it? All the jobs lost meant less money to spend, less money for homes and consumer goods.


3 posted on 12/14/2008 10:59:07 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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America is almost broke and will likely default on loans secured from foreign countries by Spring. If we default on these loans nobody will lend America any money because our government bonds, our collateral, will be worthless. The dollar would also become worthless and would then be replaced with the North American Union Amero.

Yes! Adding two weaker currencies to the dollar will strengthen it by adding a hundred million to the welfare rolls. The Canadians want to do it because their economy is stable and they have huge oil reserves and a small population! It all makes sense to me.

4 posted on 12/14/2008 10:59:10 AM PST by PasorBob
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I do believe we are bankrupt and at some time in the future will go thru some gut wrenching financial restructuring.

That said, I do not see how the conclusion that the Amero and NA Union are manifestations of this situation.

Nonsense, fear mongering and blather.

schu

5 posted on 12/14/2008 10:59:56 AM PST by schu
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“America is almost broke and will likely default on loans secured from foreign countries by Spring.”

Off by about 3 years I’d guess. It takes time to destroy a great nation.


7 posted on 12/14/2008 11:01:36 AM PST by devere
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The trouble is communism and communists. McCarthy was right! Once they got rid of him it’s only taken a generation to get communists infiltrated all through the government now and one about to enter the White House.

We are doomed until we realize what has happened. Commies cannot win militarily so the only way they can spread their poisonous doctrines is to mind control the youth of a nation away from its foundations and heritage and to go after a nation financially and break it down.


8 posted on 12/14/2008 11:01:44 AM PST by deannadurbin
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America is almost broke and will likely default on loans secured from foreign countries by Spring.

This is a demonstratively false statement. It is impossible for the US to default in dollar debt.

The only thing that can happen is that foreigners may be unwilling to acquire US debt.

9 posted on 12/14/2008 11:04:32 AM PST by LeGrande
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10 posted on 12/14/2008 11:04:36 AM PST by Danette ("If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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I’ve heard this conspiracy theory before. The thing the theorists fail to realize is that any group powerful enough, and well enough organized to pull off one of these conspiracies, can plant false clues to hide what they’re really up to. Either that or they are too powerful for anybody to stop them.


12 posted on 12/14/2008 11:09:57 AM PST by wolfpat (Revolt, and re-establish the Constitution as the law of the land!)
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Look to the Rothchilds Central Banking System. Start pushing to find out how much Gold is actually at Fort Knox. It belongs to the people. Demand and audit and you’ll see how much of our countries Gold is gone.


16 posted on 12/14/2008 11:14:53 AM PST by RC2
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To: bamahead; AuntB

There is reason to believe this could really happen.


17 posted on 12/14/2008 11:15:12 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (If greed is a virtue, than corporate socialism is conservative)
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Look for the Bushbots to post reminding us that Bush protecred us from terrorists and he is a good person, loves his dog.

There remains only one course of action to save the republic.


18 posted on 12/14/2008 11:16:51 AM PST by stockpirate (Bushbots and the Cult of Personnality, are the same as Obamaniods.)
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Why have we just given our government so much power over us?

Not like it is just now. Demand for services from all levels of government seems to do nothing but increase day by day.

21 posted on 12/14/2008 11:19:34 AM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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“Some of our Congressmen passed this legislation for their own personal gain and should be prosecuted. “

I AGREE 100 percent, then hang them all.


25 posted on 12/14/2008 11:25:01 AM PST by stockpirate (Bushbots and the Cult of Personnality, are the same as Obamaniods.)
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29 posted on 12/14/2008 11:31:05 AM PST by stockpirate (Bushbots and the Cult of Personnality, are the same as Obamaniods.)
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Here’s one to chew on. Wayne Hage once told me that the United States was pushing out grazers, loggers and miners, because they had split estate interests on the public lands. (You can see this movement in its extremities now as the new “Travel Plans” on the Natonal Forests seek to eliminate motorized vehicle travel and direct use only to improved campgrounds.) Much of the West is locked up in public land. Our California county is 63% federally owned. Wayne said all of this was real collateral for our international debt.

I believe it.


30 posted on 12/14/2008 11:31:29 AM PST by marsh2
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“Calls to Congress ran 100-1 against the bailouts. Still Congress approved a $700 Billion dollar bailout package. An additional $1 Trillion dollar bailout is being considered by Congress, which means $1,700,000,000,000 of your tax dollars could be given away.”

“Why have we just given our government so much power over us?”

These two sentences are in conflict. If the American people are 100 to 1 against, and Congress goes ahead and gives the money away, they do not represent us anymore. They are out of control. This is the real reason we are in trouble.


33 posted on 12/14/2008 11:38:55 AM PST by whipitgood (Real Americans don't allow socialists to take over their country.)
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I am not a financial expert, but I am really worried about all this and downright scared. If it was just the Fannie & Freddie thing I would say we will get through this, but there are other theories out there that are frightening. Some people say its the Chinese calling in their debt, others say Communism has patiently defeated us. Then there is one world government theory which says all the continents will be integrated and no borders which means loss of sovereignty for America, loss of 2nd amendment and subjugation to a foreign power. It all seems like a nightmare, but I know I am wide awake. Honestly, I don't know what to think and can only hope someone really does have the answer.
35 posted on 12/14/2008 11:45:28 AM PST by this is my country
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America is almost broke and will likely default on loans secured from foreign countries by Spring.

More likely is that the US will devalue the dollar to be able to carry the debt-burden - "printing new money" essentially. That'll piss China off to no end since it will hit directly at both their main export account and their huge stockpiles of US currency and debt.

It's not like it's unprecedented though. The US essentially defaulted and restructured when Nixon removed the gold standard and you survived that.

48 posted on 12/14/2008 12:10:41 PM PST by SwedishConservative
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To: Dr. Marten; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
Then our government will start over with a new currency called the Amero and a new government called the North American Union.
Nutcase stuff. Pure drivel. Fearmongering of the worst kind.
55 posted on 12/14/2008 12:31:58 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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