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1984 for real this time?
n/a | Mark A Sity

Posted on 03/15/2009 9:59:49 AM PDT by logic101.net

Was George only wrong on the year? Does anyone else feel like they have stepped into a George Orwell novel? For months after the election Obama’s face was everywhere; I felt like “Big Brother” was watching me. Early into the administration Big Brother told us all that he was open to any ideas to fix the economy, even from Republicans. When a Republican suggested tax cuts he was immediately cut off with, “I’m going to trump you; I won, - we aren’t going to do that”. The Ministry of Truth didn’t see any disconnect.

Big Brother campaigned on not following the failed policies of the past, yet to fix the economy he is using only the failed policies that gave us the great depression and is ignoring polices that have worked more recently (ie. Tax cuts). Minitrue didn’t see any disconnect In an amazing example of “Double Think”, Big Brother signed the biggest deficit spending bill in human history. The next day he talked about how he would be fiscally responsible and institute “paygo”. Days latter he proposed even more deficit spending. Minitrue didn’t see any disconnect. Recently Big Brother stated that he wasn’t going to be worried about the “day to day gyrations” in the stock market. These “gyrations” have cost Americans almost half their wealth in less than six months. Minitrue didn’t see any disconnect. We now seem to be in the early stages of the“2 minute hate” with the face of Rush replacing that of Goldstein. Is it too late to hope for change?

MARK A SITY


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1984; obama; orwell

1 posted on 03/15/2009 9:59:49 AM PDT by logic101.net
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To: logic101.net
You Are To Post This Picture Of Me Over Your Bed

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2 posted on 03/15/2009 10:02:10 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: logic101.net
Does anyone else feel like they have stepped into a George Orwell novel?

Yes, for many years now. But I'm just a kooky loserdopian who only wants freedom so I can do drugs, and I shouldn't be worried about Orwellian government unless I'm doing something wrong. At least that's what I've been told.
3 posted on 03/15/2009 10:02:54 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: logic101.net

The 2010 elections could very well be one of the most consequential elections in history.


4 posted on 03/15/2009 10:03:29 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: mysterio
When drugs become mandatory, there will be no worries.
5 posted on 03/15/2009 10:03:58 AM PDT by svcw
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To: logic101.net
Is it too late to hope for change?

I would not bet .10 cents on Hussein Øbama The Magnificent to do anything that does not promote communism.

6 posted on 03/15/2009 10:05:34 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: logic101.net
Big Brother?


7 posted on 03/15/2009 10:08:50 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 55 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

That’s what they said about the 2000 election. And then again the 2004 election.


8 posted on 03/15/2009 10:10:00 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mysterio

A little more explanation? For years now? I won’t attack if you say Bush caused that. As I go through the day reading about Obama’s next action and scared to death for my children’s future, I also remember those during the Bush years who told me they could not stomach Bush and they refused to watch listen to him.

I wonder if those same people had the feelings I have now. Mind you the two most outspoken do not follow politics other than MSM and I also wondered if that is why they felt that way. A conversation with them is, did you know, have you read and their response, I don’t have time for all of that.


9 posted on 03/15/2009 10:10:12 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (We don't see victims. We don't see people we want to exploit. What we see is potential,Rush Limbaugh)
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To: mamelukesabre

Didja ever have the feelin you was bein’ watched?

Well youre not wrong.

Its the government whos doin the watchin’. And the listenin’.


10 posted on 03/15/2009 10:11:41 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: mamelukesabre

I don’t remember that being said then - and I pay attention.

Even so, it wouldn’t have been true. Either Gore or Kerry would have been met with a Republican congress that would have opposed them.


11 posted on 03/15/2009 10:12:10 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

If there is an election in 2010 it will be a sham election like they have in places like Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and Fidel’s Cuba. The last election was pretty much a sham too because of the liberal/communist media. IMHO anyway.


12 posted on 03/15/2009 10:13:25 AM PDT by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
For a different perspective, watch this. It's long, but worth it.

The Obama Deception
13 posted on 03/15/2009 10:15:04 AM PDT by Free America52 (I just want it to be the way it always has been.)
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To: logic101.net
For months after the election Obama’s face was everywhere

I was on my way home from the bay area and I stopped into a HomeGoods store. At the front door, life size framed pictures of Obama. Two different styles to choose from. I have never seen so much retail marketing of a President ever.

14 posted on 03/15/2009 10:16:10 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (We don't see victims. We don't see people we want to exploit. What we see is potential,Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Jaxter

So you expect the Democrats to win with 94% of the vote and the result will be met with celebration and adulation?


15 posted on 03/15/2009 10:16:53 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

it was about supreme court nominations, and the military...back then.


16 posted on 03/15/2009 10:25:38 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: St. Louis Conservative

No. I expect it will be a close margin. Just enough to win. What will be there to stop them? The judges? Congress? The president? The watch dog media?


17 posted on 03/15/2009 10:27:44 AM PDT by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: Jaxter

Not just your opinion. I see voter fraud, campaign finance fraud and MSM socialism.

Everyone should read Devvy’s articles on voter fraud and how votes can be changed with a mere cell phone. There are a few articles and the links in them are just as important.

http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd72.htm


18 posted on 03/15/2009 10:28:28 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (We don't see victims. We don't see people we want to exploit. What we see is potential,Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Jaxter

That’s why we must have a plan. We have to make sure those who voted for Obama and he screwed them, come to the light.

100 million gun owners is a good start.


19 posted on 03/15/2009 10:31:57 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (We don't see victims. We don't see people we want to exploit. What we see is potential,Rush Limbaugh)
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To: mamelukesabre

Don’t remember. I wasn’t concerned with the overall health of the Republic back then, I just despised Gore and Kerry. I regarded them as left-wing, elitist buffoons. I didn’t regard them as truly dangerous, as I do Obama.


20 posted on 03/15/2009 10:32:14 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Well, it was there. People thought 8 years of clinton had just about destroyed america beyond repair and that we had only one hope. The NRA pulled through for us and got us bush...by a nose. Then 911 happened and we were again on the verge of total collapse of freedom and liberty. When 2004 elections came along, people thought we just barely squeeked by and bush merely bought us a 4 year stay of execution. But if he loses in ‘04, that’s it. Finis.

Now we have obama. Kinda puts all that stuff in perspective. The way we thought clinton had ruined america...HA...doesn’t even compare to obama. I’d gladly take slick willie now, and thank him for displacing obama.


21 posted on 03/15/2009 10:42:55 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: OafOfOffice
A little more explanation? For years now? I won’t attack if you say Bush caused that.

Bush didn't cause it, he continued it. The attacks on the Bill of Rights are almost as old as the country. Most recently, however, the drug war resulted in massive increases in police power. In some areas, they can seize your property on mere suspicion that "drugs" are somehow involved. Carnivore and massive new NSA spying started under Clinton. And the "patriot" act was a knee jerk response to 9/11. Actually, there wasn't much in the patriot act that wasn't requested by the Janet Reno justice department ten years earlier. Had Al Gore suggested the patriot act, I think the reaction to it here would have been much different.

But that's all water under the bridge now. People get the government they want and the level of freedom they want. I hope that eventually people start valuing liberty again.
22 posted on 03/15/2009 10:47:06 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Jaxter

Voters.


23 posted on 03/15/2009 10:49:06 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: SkyDancer
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Done.
24 posted on 03/15/2009 10:50:53 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: mysterio
"The attacks on the Bill of Rights are almost as old as the country. Most recently, however, the drug war resulted in massive increases in police power."

It's impossible for some to realize that sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. The WOD not only resulted in increases in police power, but also in police and official corruption. We've come to accept unprecedented levels of surveillance in our society. We've also succeeded in making some of the scummiest people on earth wealthy, and their lifestyles something that young people try to emulate. The only thing that hasn't been accomplished, is putting a dent in people's willingness to purchase and use that crap. The lessons of history...(George Santayana please pick-up the white courtesy phone).

25 posted on 03/15/2009 11:39:09 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: St. Louis Conservative
"Voters."

Voter fraud.

26 posted on 03/15/2009 11:53:18 AM PDT by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: logic101.net

Just thinking about Orwell’s 1984, and had there been a second term for Jimmy Carter.

Orwell might have been right had Reagan not won.


27 posted on 03/15/2009 11:55:39 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: logic101.net
The technology of Nineteen Eighty-four is actually here now, but it is not being used to the same degree as INGSOC.

Not even close.

28 posted on 03/15/2009 11:56:07 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: logic101.net

No, this isn’t 1984.

If it was 1984, your post would never have been seen by anyone... and you would be undergoing ‘re-education’ at this very moment.


29 posted on 03/15/2009 12:03:53 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

IF we have elections in 2010. I could see this guy using a “crisis” to suspend them and bring in martial law.... I’m not saying that will happen, just that I could see him doing it. Remember Rom’s statement about not letting a crisis go to waste....


30 posted on 03/15/2009 2:24:11 PM PDT by logic101.net (Support OUR troops, NOT their's!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Maybe with 100% and 100% turnout, like Saddam’s last election....


31 posted on 03/15/2009 2:26:46 PM PDT by logic101.net (Support OUR troops, NOT their's!)
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To: logic101.net
With the recent snitch site from the white house for anyone who may be sending e-mails about socialized medicine things are looking more and more like 1984.
32 posted on 08/04/2009 8:52:05 PM PDT by logic101.net (Support OUR troops, NOT their's!)
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