Posted on 04/10/2009 9:49:58 AM PDT by American Dream 246
I’d be careful about taking military advice from someone who refers to “Marines and Navy soldiers.”
You can decide if Army Maj. Arthur D. Nicholson belongs on your list, he is in the same category as those two GIs murdered by the North Koreans.
http://www.usmlm.org/home/nicholson/weinnich85.htm
I have another list of every instance when american troops/militia were deployed or fired a shot in defense or offense from the year of the first pilgrims on plymouth rock to AD2000. That list I still have somewhere on a zip disk but it would take some digging to find it. I lost interest in it when I started looking into islam right after 9-11.
The history of the koran itself is fascinating. The koran never existed until years after mohammed died. Mohammed was illiterate and only believed in oral teachings. There is no way to prove that anything in the koran is anyway remotely close to what mohammed taught.
Well..., that sounds interesting. Someone told me that I should do a book just on that small list that I made. But, it’s *you* who should be doing a book.... :-)
You know... I was trying to find that very one. I knew it happened but I couldn’t remember enough details to form proper search parameters...
Thanks for giving me the info...
-PJ
Okay, I’ll add that one. It sure does count!
Thanks...
[ I wouldn’t add a CIA operation going into another country doing covert ops as counting, because that would be secret and not available to the public and it’s not something that seems to fit. But, in this case, it was public and I don’t consider “fly-overs” a problem [we do have satellites that do the very same thing now...]).]
bookmark..good work!
Obama - Black Dove [going] Down
Thanks for the info
Few more:
this was a weird story that faded away
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/936771.stm
unrelated:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Hanafi_Muslim_Siege
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/20/world/un-withdraws-immunity-of-4-in-shooting.html : (
Obama is an embarrassment. period.
These animals are Rawandan. They will probably be tried upon their extradition (and hopefully face execution), which is why they want asylum in the USA. Latest from victims assistance Feb 2008...ICE has received a decision from the immigration judge in the case for Francois Karake. Although the immigration judge ordered Mr. Karake removed from the United States he also granted him an immigration benefit. The parties may file a notice appealing the immigration judge's decision. The term immigration benefit means that an individual may not be deported at the current time. Leonidas Bimenyimana has elected to appeal the immigration judge's decision in his case. The briefs from both parties are currently due. At this time, no appeal has been filed by Gregoire Nyaminani. ICE is continuing to pursue all avenues to effectuate the removal of these individuals from the United States. All three remain in detention facilities.
That was over a year ago.
Robert Goodloe Harper
Still working on it, and haven’t incorporated *all* that FReepers have been sending to me, yet... it’s a “work in progress”...
And thanks for all your help!!
Presidential Crises - Hostages and/or Killings of Military and Civilians
Truman Killed (31), Berlin Blockade, USSR Military, East Germany
Eisenhower Hostages (1), Gary Powers U2 Incident, USSR Military, USSR
Kennedy Hostages (Berlin), Berlin Crisis of 1961, USSR Military, East Germany
Kennedy Killed (118), Bay of Pigs Invasion, US Military, Cuba
Kennedy Killed (0), Cuban Missile Crisis, US/USSR,
Johnson Killed (34), USS Liberty, Israel
Johnson Hostages (82/1 Killed), USS Pueblo, 11 months, North Korea
Johnson Killed (0), Gulf of Tonkin Incident, N. Vietnamese Torpedo Boats, North Vietnam
Nixon Killed (2), US Diplomats, Black September/Arafat, Sudan
Ford Hostages (40/21 servicemen killed), SS Mayaguez, Khmer Rouge, Cambodia
Ford Killed (2), Axe Murder Incident (two US Army Soldiers), NK Army, North Korea
Carter Hostages (52), Tehran Embassy Hostages, 444 days, Iran
Carter Killed (8), Operation Eagle Claw, C-130, Iran
Reagan Killed (0/0 foreign; jets shot down), 1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan Killed (62), KAL Flight 007 Shootdown, USSR Air Force, USSR
Reagan Killed (19), Operation Urgent Fury, US Military, Grenada
Reagan Killed (241), Marine barracks bombing, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan Hostages (20), Civilian Hostages, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan Killed (5), Civilian/Military Killings, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan Killed (1), Army Maj. Arthur D. Nicholson Incident, Soviet Military, East Germany
Reagan Killed (6), Zona Rosa Attack, Central America Revolutionary Workers Party, El Salvador
Reagan Killed (3), Berlin Discotheque Bombing, Libyan Intelligence/Gaddafi, West Germany
Reagan Killed (0/unknown foreign), Operation Attain Document, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan Killed (2), Operation El Dorado Canyon, USAF, Libya
Reagan Killed (290/foreign), Iran Air Flight 655/USS Vincennes, US Military, Persian Gulf/Iran
Reagan Killed (37), USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31), Iraq Air Force, Iraq
Reagan Killed (0/2 foreign), 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Bush Killed (24), Operation Just Cause, US Military, Panama
Clinton Killed (90), Waco Siege/Branch Davidians, US Government, USA
Clinton Killed (6), 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Clinton Killed (168), Oklahoma City Bombing, Domestic/Foreign Terrorists*, USA/Iraq*
Clinton Killed (19), Black Hawk Down, Islamic Warlords, Somalia
Clinton Killed (17), USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67), Al Qaeda, port in Yemen
Clinton Killed (142), TWA Flight 800, Foreign Terrorism [controversial*], Terrorists
Clinton Killed (19), Khobar Towers Bombing, Hizballah Al-Hijaz [terrorists], Saudi Arabia
Clinton Killed (12), 1998 US Embassy Bombings, Al Qaeda/Osama bin Ladin, Tanzania/Kenya
Clinton Killed (0/35 foreign), Operation Infinite Reach, US Air Force, Afghanistan/Sudan
Bush Hostages (24), Hainan Island incident (EP-3 Aries), 11 days, China
Bush Killed (2,998), 9/11 Attack, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Bush Killed (3), US Diplomatic Security Specialists, PA Terrorists, PA Territory/Gaza
Bush Killed (19), Riyadh Compound Bombings, Islamic Terrorists, Saudi Arabia
Bush Killed (1), Khobar Massacre, The Jerusalem Squadron/Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia
Obama Hostages (1), MV Maersk Alabama Piracy, Somalia Pirates, Somalia
Truman Berlin Blockade - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Blockade
Eisenhower Gary Powers U2 Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-2_Crisis_of_1960
Kennedy Berlin Crisis of 1961 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Crisis_of_1961
Kennedy Bay of Pigs Invasion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
Kennedy Cuban Missile Crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
Johnson USS Liberty Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Johnson USS Pueblo Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)
Johnson Gulf of Tonkin Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident
Nixon US Diplomats Killed (Arafat ordered) - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26856
Ford SS Mayaguez Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayagüez_incident
Ford Axe Murder Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_Murder_Incident
Carter Iranian Hostage Crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
Carter Operation Eagle Claw (rescue) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw
Reagan 1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981)
Reagan KAL Flight 007 Shootdown - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
Reagan Operation Urgent Fury - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
Reagan Marine Barracks bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
Reagan Hostages in Lebanon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
Reagan Army Maj. Arthur D. Nicholson Incident - http://www.usmlm.org/home/nicholson/weinnich85.htm
Reagan Zona Rosa Attack - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Zona_Rosa_attacks
Reagan Operation El Dorado Canyon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_El_Dorado_Canyon
Reagan Iran Air Flight 655 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Reagan USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_(FFG-31)
Reagan Operation Attain Document - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_in_the_Gulf_of_Sidra_(1986)
Reagan 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1989)
Bush Operation Just Cause - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama
Clinton Waco Siege/Branch Davidians - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege
Clinton 1993 World Trade Center Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
Clinton Oklahoma City Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
[ *controversial - http://www.jaynadavis.com/ ]
Clinton Black Hawk Down - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)
Clinton USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
Clinton TWA Flight 800 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800
[ *controversial - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800_alternative_theories - http://twa800.com/ ]
Clinton Khobar Towers Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing
Clinton 1998 US Embassy Bombings - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings
Clinton Operation Infinite Reach - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infinite_Reach
Bush Hainan Island incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
Bush 9/11 Attack - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11
Bush US Diplomatic Security Specialist Murders - http://www.nysun.com/opinion/getting-away-with-murder/68852/
Bush Riyadh Compound Bombings - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_compound_bombings
Bush Khobar Massacre - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/29_May_2004_Al-Khobar_massacres
Obama MV Maersk Alabama Piracy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Maersk_Alabama
Please help add more so I can update this. If there is another event that happened within a particular Presidents term (hostages taken, military killed in actions regarding the crisis, etc...), give me the info and any pertinent links. Still working on it and adding information...
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Heres where it all started, and then some FReepers started giving me some more events.. :-)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2226437/posts?page=5#5
AND THEN... it’s turned into this one... LOL...
http://www.ugandamission.net/aboutug/articles/arrest3.html
Very sorry that you lost your sister and her husband.
FR has such a depth of posters who are connected in so many ways to the world.
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