DAY 3 JIHAD PIRACY KIDNAPPING: CAPTAIN MAKES DRAMATIC ESCAPE

Atlas Shrugs ^ | 04/10/09 | Atlas Shrugs

[American Dream 246]

...Van wrote, "We should have put a SEAL team in the water early on, even before the U.S. Warship arrived, by aircraft, low on the horizon. We should have jammed their communications. They are giving interviews to Reuters, for Chrissakes! SEALs probably would have thrown a stun grenage and teargas in that lifeboat and brought the entire mess to a conclusion. The Marines and Navy soldiers were probably tripping over themselves to volunteer for this mission.

And those 3 pirate towns mentioned in the piece? I would level them. Give tehm 24 hours to vacate. Period. Do you think Churchill, Eisenhower, or, Parron, especially, would have countenanced this pussy approach. Sorry, but you use that word, too.

And the sentence about the pirates not wanting to be harmed. Now, isn't that rich. America has become a gelding. I am this close to ordering that DTOM Navy Flag and stickers from Gadsen! "

[papasmurf]

"Clinton - Black Hawk Down"

Obama - Black President Clown
Leni

Priceless!

[Doc91678]

Sorry, I’m a land lubber I thought the life boats were open.
But that doesn’t preclude a little SEAL foray to free Captain phillips.

[Star Traveler]

Since this started off here — on this thread — this is the latest update and includes a lot more than before, much coming from other posters giving this information...

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Here’s a comparison of other Presidential Crises, with American hostage-taking and military/civilians killed (various actions against our civilians and/or actions that we took in response to such crises. It’s a good comparison for what is going on today, as to what has happened in the past with other Presidents...

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Presidential Crises - Hostages and/or Killings of Military and Civilians

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Nixon — Killed (2), US Diplomats, Black September/Arafat, Sudan
Johnson — Killed (34), USS Liberty, Israel
Johnson — Hostages (82/1 Killed), USS Pueblo, 11 months, North Korea
Johnson — Killed (0), Gulf of Tonkin Incident, N. Vietnamese Torpedo Boats, North Vietnam
Ford — Hostages (21), SS Mayaguez, Khmer Rouge, Cambodia
Ford — Killed (2), Axe Murder Incident (two US Army Soldiers), NK Army, North Korea
Carter — Hostages (52), Tehran Embassy Hostages, 444 days, Iran
Carter — Killed (8), Operation Eagle Claw, C-130, Iran
Reagan — Killed (0/0 foreign; jets shot down), 1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan — Killed (19), Operation Urgent Fury, US Military, Grenada
Reagan — Killed (241), Marine barracks bombing, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Hostages (20), Civilian Hostages, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (5), Civilian/Military Killings, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (6), Zona Rosa Attack, Central America Revolutionary Workers’ Party, El Salvador
Reagan — Killed (3), Berlin Discotheque Bombing, Libyan Intelligence/Gaddafi, West Germany
Reagan — Killed (0/unknown foreign), Operation Attain Document, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan — Killed (2), Operation El Dorado Canyon, USAF, Libya
Reagan — Killed (290/foreign), Iran Air Flight 655/USS Vincennes, US Military, Persian Gulf/Iran
Reagan — Killed (37), USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31), Iraq Air Force, Iraq
Reagan — Killed (0/2 foreign), 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Bush — Killed (24), Operation Just Cause, US Military, Panama
Clinton — Killed (90), Waco Siege/Branch Davidians, US Government, USA
Clinton — Killed (6), 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Clinton — Killed (168), Oklahoma City Bombing, Domestic/Foreign Terrorists*, USA/Iraq*
Clinton — Killed (19), Black Hawk Down, Islamic Warlords, Somalia
Clinton — Killed (17), USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67), Al Qaeda, port in Yemen
Clinton — Killed (142), TWA Flight 800, Foreign Terrorism [controversial*], Terrorists
Clinton — Killed (19), Khobar Towers Bombing, Hizballah Al-Hijaz [terrorists], Saudi Arabia
Clinton — Killed (12), 1998 US Embassy Bombings, Al Qaeda/Osama bin Ladin, Tanzania/Kenya
Clinton — Killed (0/35 foreign), Operation Infinite Reach, US Air Force, Afghanistan/Sudan
Bush — Hostages (24), Hainan Island incident (EP-3 Aries), 11 days, China
Bush — Killed (2,998), 9/11 Attack, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Bush — Killed (3), US Diplomatic Security Specialists, PA Terrorists, PA Territory/Gaza
Bush — Killed (19), Riyadh Compound Bombings, Islamic Terrorists, Saudi Arabia
Bush — Killed (1), Khobar Massacre, The Jerusalem Squadron/Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia
Obama — Hostages (1), MV Maersk Alabama Piracy, Somalia Pirates, Somalia

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Nixon — US Diplomats Killed (Arafat ordered) - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26856
Johnson — USS Liberty Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Johnson — USS Pueblo Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)
Johnson — Gulf of Tonkin Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident
Ford — SS Mayaguez Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayagüez_incident
Ford — Axe Murder Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_Murder_Incident
Carter — Iranian Hostage Crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
Carter — Operation Eagle Claw (rescue) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw
Reagan — 1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981)
Reagan — Operation Urgent Fury - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
Reagan — Marine Barracks bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
Reagan — Hostages in Lebanon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
Reagan — Zona Rosa Attack - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Zona_Rosa_attacks
Reagan — Operation El Dorado Canyon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_El_Dorado_Canyon
Reagan — Iran Air Flight 655 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Reagan — USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_(FFG-31)
Reagan — Operation Attain Document - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_in_the_Gulf_of_Sidra_(1986)
Reagan — 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1989)
Bush — Operation Just Cause - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama
Clinton — Waco Siege/Branch Davidians - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege
Clinton — 1993 World Trade Center Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
Clinton — Oklahoma City Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
[ *controversial - http://www.jaynadavis.com/ ]
Clinton — Black Hawk Down - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)
Clinton — USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
Clinton — TWA Flight 800 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800
[ *controversial - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800_alternative_theories - http://twa800.com/ ]
Clinton — Khobar Towers Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing
Clinton — 1998 US Embassy Bombings - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings
Clinton — Operation Infinite Reach - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infinite_Reach
Bush — Hainan Island incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
Bush — 9/11 Attack - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11
Bush — US Diplomatic Security Specialist Murders - http://www.nysun.com/opinion/getting-away-with-murder/68852/
Bush — Riyadh Compound Bombings - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_compound_bombings
Bush — Khobar Massacre - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/29_May_2004_Al-Khobar_massacres
Obama — MV Maersk Alabama Piracy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Maersk_Alabama

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Please help add more so I can update this. If there is another event that happened within a particular President’s term (hostages taken, military killed in actions regarding the crisis, etc...), give me the info and any pertinent links. Still working on it and adding information...

[Star Traveler]

Hey y’all, here’s something that is off the topics we normally rap about... :-)

For whatever it’s worth (I ended up spending way too much time on it... LOL...)

[Quix]

Thanks.

Been trying to keep tabs on it.

OThuga’s idiocies re it are more than a little infuriating if I give into thinking about it very emotionally at all.

[Quix]

INDEED.

[Star Traveler]

Well..., maybe so, but after I finished compiling that list, Obama looked really *insignificant* to me. I mean... look at Reagan on the list... LOL...

[Quix]

Perhaps the inescapable conclusion is

that the oligarchy . . .

plans and schedules these things with great regularity to do as so many have contended over the decades . . .

AS MAJOR MISDIRECTIONS to keep folks from looking at the more important treasons they are doing under the radar, under the table.

[Star Traveler]

I can’t help remembering how happy people were about Grenada... it was weird... it was like “breaking a spell” after Vietnam... It was all over the news that the spell had finally been broken...

[Quix]

Yes. I felt that way over Grenada.

In spite of feeling manipulated by Grenada, I felt that way.

I just had that nagging feeling that even Grenada was trumped up.

That it was a charade from start to finished and that Reagan was compelled to play his role in it. I felt puzzled, embarrassed and elated that the spell had been broken. Quite a mixture of convoluted paradoxical feelings.

Grenada? GRENADA? What’s with GRENADA! Seemed silly yet necessary. Crazy.

[unkus]

I don’t know how that list could be more complete. Thank you for the good work.

[unkus]

Yes, President Jefferson said it.

[unkus]

Right, but I say “YOU CARES”?

______________________________

A lot more than you might think.

Wait until we see what happens on Tea Party Day April 15, 2009.

[1_Rain_Drop]

"...Van wrote, "We should have put a SEAL team in the water early on, even before the U.S. Warship arrived...."

Now I wonder if they would have done this had they know the pres_ent was a usurper.

[bobby.223]

yeah that is how I think it was played also. that is one hell of a list also, you have been busy!!!!!

[Star Traveler]

Yeah, really... it was most of the day. :-)

But, it’s nice to have that list...

[bobby.223]

sure is and I went nuts for a long time when RR did not level that entire 3rd. world hell hole ‘country’ over there when our servicemen were murdered.

[Star Traveler]

Yes, indeed, I know exactly what you mean.

BUT, I have to caution you about that, a little bit. It wasn’t the whole country for one thing. If you have ever heard Brigitte Gabriel, you would realize that the whole country was not at fault. The problem came about when the terrorists were kicked out of Jordan, by the King, when he went to war against them. That was called “Black September”...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan

They went to Lebanon, and then they divided the country and it got into a civil war over there.

I’m going to give you a list of Brigitte Gabriel’s radio interviews, so you can hear what happened over there...

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Olive Tree Ministries radio program interviews many different kinds of guests. They have a wide variety of people on this radio program

http://www.olivetreeviews.org/

Jan Markell is the radio show host and so, does the interviewing. It’s a once a week show, of two hours, usually broken up into two segments with a different guest on each segment.

The archives of all the shows are here (running back for several years...).

http://www.olivetreeviews.org/radio/mp3/index.php?page=1

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August 23, 2008 - Hour 2
http://mp3.olivetreeviews.org/OTM2008_08_23B.mp3

Brigitte Gabriel brings another homeland insecurity update. She also reviews how John McCain and Barack Obama will deal with the Middle East . Her organization is on the home front battling taxpayer-funded Muslim schools in America which are spouting up across the country. Because she fought against the one in St. Paul , MN , she is now posted on al-Qaeda’s Web site. http://www.actforamerica.org

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June 7, 2008 - Hour 1
http://mp3.olivetreeviews.org/OTM2008_06_07A.mp3

Brigitte Gabriel brings another homeland insecurity update. She also reviews how John McCain and Barack Obama will deal with the Middle East. Her organization is on the home front battling taxpayer-funded Muslim schools in America which are spouting up across the country. Because she fought against the one in St. Paul, MN, she is now posted on al-Qaeda’s Web site. http://www.actforamerica.org

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February 24, 2007 - Hour 1
http://mp3.olivetreeviews.org/OTM2007_02_24B.mp3

Repeat from December 2, 2006. Brigitte Gabriel has a new book, “Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America.” She sounds an alarm as to the first Muslim elected to Congress (Keith Ellison, D-MN), discusses Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and more, and again points to America’s vulnerability to terror due to political correctness. Brigitte provides just about everything you need to know about our battle with Islam.

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December 2, 2006 - Hour 2
http://mp3.olivetreeviews.org/OTM2006_12_02B.mp3

Brigitte Gabriel has a new book, “Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America.” She sounds an alarm as to the first Muslim elected to Congress (Keith Ellison, D-MN), discusses Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and more, and again points to America’s vulnerability to terror due to political correctness. Brigitte provides just about everything you need to know about our battle with Islam. http://www.americancongressfortruth.com

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April 15, 2006 - Hour 1
http://mp3.olivetreeviews.org/OTM2006_04_15A.mp3

Homeland security expert Brigitte Gabriel talks about the terrorist avenue of illegal immigration and other related issues. She is an Arab-American working tirelessly for America’s security and for Israel. http://www.americancongressfortruth.com

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June 25, 2005 - Hour 1
http://mp3.olivetreeviews.org/OTM2005_06_25A.mp3

Brigitte Gabriel on the terror threat to America, immigration problems, and much more on current and relevant issues for today. One of our most informed and popular radio guests always sounding a warning about America’s (in)security.

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February 26, 2005 - Hour 2
http://mp3.olivetreeviews.org/OTM2005_02_26B.mp3

Brigitte Gabriel returns with “Homeland Security” issues and an explanation of the Lebanese-Syrian situation. She heads “The American Congress for Truth.”

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January 29, 2005 - Hour 1
http://mp3.olivetreeviews.org/OTM2005_01_29A.mp3

Jan talks to Brigitte Gabriel head of “The American Congress for Truth” about the New Jersey slaying of Christian Copts, perhaps “the most buried story of the year.” Hear the truth: This is a hate-crime against Christians and is a wake-up call for America. “Sharia Law” is now practiced in America as the family was killed because they spoke against Islam and for Christianity.

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I wish Reagan would have done something about the terrorists — yes, but not the entire country, because *at one time* (before the terrorists got there) Lebanon was the *absolute oasis* of the Middle East. The terrorists turned it into a garbage pit, by what they did. And it wasn’t the fault of the population which was living there, prior to the time that the terrorists got there and neither was it the problem with the government either (prior to that time). It was all wrecked by Yasser Arafat and his terrorist group, when they escaped from Jordan into Lebanon...

It was Israel who ended up kicking Arafat and his group out of there, years later, but the Iranians had their terrorists in there, too.

[bobby.223]

great reply. sometimes my hatred (a non Christian feeling for sure)for these savages overides my typing finger but that was how I felt then. to this day I feel we should have done something, anything imm. in retaliation. obviously not being in any loop I have to defer.....but damn I stil can’t/won’t get over the images of our men slaughtered over there.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Is this news to anyone...:

After the tragedy of September 11th, 2001 Ms. Gabriel founded American Congress for Truth.org

and I think she also started a movement for local chapters under the name ACT! for America....

Geert Wilders was out here at Chapman University and the Mooselimbs were going to demostrate against him and they never showed up...however approximately a hundred counter demostrators ...most from the ACT group did show up!

There were a few of us there from Freeperland.