[Sun]

It might also be a good idea to pass along Fleming's website link to family and friends in other states so they can find out if their congressperson is looking out for them. Maybe you and your friends, would be willing to write a letter to the editor in your respective state with Fleming's website, so voters around the country will realize what a disaster this healthcare bill is - so bad that members of Congress do not want to be included.

[Jeff Head]

Congress, particularly the liberal dems and RINOs believe they are a "cut above", like they are some kind of royalty.

It is past time that we disabuse them of that notion.

The do not want to live under the same health provisions that they prescribe for the rest of us. Neither does Obama.

Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document as is understood to include immigration status.

A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.

Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA - A SONG
By Ron and Kay Rivoli

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

[Doogle]

same reason they vote themselves raises, ....they can

reminds me of that joke about a dog......

[Shady]

It is unconsitutional under the equal protection clause of the constitution. We must bring this to the SCOTUS as soon as this monstosity is passed and signed into “law”.

[J40000]

It’s because they TRULY believe that they deserve the BEST and we, the masses should all divide a generic, marginal system that THEY can control.
They’re better than us, mind you...

[Atom Smasher]

I think its unbelievable that someone had enough guts to come out & say it! Thats exactly how it is...congress & senate knows that it is a deathcare bill.

I say we demand that if they pass it, they have to be on it too! The potus too - if one of our children dies from a curable illness because they won’t allow treatment, then by God, Zero’s children better face the same fate...is that what he wants? Has he even thought of that? Would he allow his own children to die when he knows there are treatments available?

No...of course not. But he’ll let us & our children die!

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

It might also be a good idea to pass along Fleming’s website link

I agree :)

http://fleming.house.gov/index.html

[Howie66]

Simple. Even your garden variety congress-critter (as stupid and venal as they are) knows that obamacare is a steaming pile of sh*t.

[Dubya]

bump

[The Wizard]

stay on this and obamacare will die.....demand that THEY be included. period.

[Diogenesis]

"WELCOME TO THE REAL AMERICA WHERE CRIMINALS GET TO BE
CELEBRITIES AND CELEBRITIES GET AWAY WITH MURDER."
"TO DIE FOR" Columbia Pictures

All animals are equal, but those with relatives in the US Congress,
are much more equal than others.

[sickoflibs]

Social Security too!

[Gay State Conservative]

Why did they exempt themselves????? Please...please...PLEASE tell me that this is a joke!

[SERKIT]

Is plastic surgery and Botox included in DeathCare? If not, SanFranNan would have nowhere to go for a touch-up.

[mo]

Come on.....we’re the peasants..doncha know...yur supposed to tip your hat, shut up, lay back and take it like the peon your masters know you are...

[Ciexyz]

If you're referring to the Federal Employees' Health Benefit Program (FEHBP), which covers current federal employees, postal workers, Congress, and retirees of the above-mentioned groups, I can speak with some knowledge of the program, because I have been covered by the FEHBP for thirty years.

It's a decent program but it lacks a lot of frills that many other plans have. That's why I have to laugh when critics of Obamacare hold up "Congress' Plan" as the great gold standard of health plans.

The FEHBP is a collection of hundreds of plans, most of them local HMO's (every state has their own version of the nationally-recognized HMO's.) In addition, there's a collection of union plans (Treasury Employees, GEHA GOvernment Employees, American Postal Worker's, Mailhandlers, National Association of Letter Carriers) which require an enrollee to be a member of their union and pay either full or associate member union dues to then enroll in their health plan);

Then there's the government Blue Cross program, which I am in. This plan is an amalgamation of what used to be High Option (pay more, get more bennies) and Low or Standard Option (the opposite). In the Federal Employees Blue Cross plan, here's one example of cost-cutting: the government has decided we must pay a 25 percent copay for surgeries.

For example, I have had two medically-necessary outpatient surgeries in recent years (getting pre-approval, using plan-approved and affiliated physicians and facilities) which cost me $2,000 (on an $8,000 bill) and $1,500 (on a $6,000 bill) I have had to set up a payment plan to pay off these amounts. These are the types of co-pays that Americans will have to pay if the Government gives them the 'favor' of enrolling them in 'the same plan as Congress'.

Unless the Government gives them something worse, something akin to the government HMO's. I was in two nationally-named plans over the years and got out of both of them because of substandard care, which included:

1) being treated by a nurse practitioner instead of a physician.

2) being turned away at the height of flu season (this happened while I was enrolled in two different HMO plans). In one case, I was told that the plan was timely in rescheduling me within 24 hours. I begged them to see me since I was sick and hacking away, but they refused to treat me as a walk-in and said the earliest they would schedule me was in 24 hours.

3) The HMO's that I was in would never give me a prescription strong enough to cure the problem. I would hack away for a week and go back and the nurse practitioner would say, We'll have to give you something stronger. Why didn't they give me the good stuff on the first visit? When I enrolled in Blue Cross and got treatment from a good neighborhood doctor (plan-approved but still my own choice for a doctor), I received much better care.

One more comment on the Blue Cross option that I'm in. They pay for root canals but they don't pay for the crown - which costs $1000 or more. They pay for eye examinations but when you take the prescription to get it filled, the eyeglass places tell me, your plan doesn't cover this, you have to pay full price. I have talked to many people over the years who have MUCH better health coverage than my government plan. They have all sorts of frills and are surprised that my plan doesn't cover it.

That said, I earned my health benefits by my own labor, and it would make me ill to see what benefits I have, reduced, just so that the government can enroll as many illegal aliens as possible and force reluctant citizens into my plan - then raise my costs and lower my benefits and treatment. I worked for my health benefits. It's one good benefit that I have.

I have sympathy for those without benefits, but there are emergency rooms to treat them. In my area, we have Catholic Charities and several clinics, one connected with the Presbyterian Church, that offer free treatment for those who cannot pay. My state has a good program for uninsured children. There are treatment options in place for those who are uninsured. I earned my coverage. My employer told us it was part of our salary at the time of contract negotiations.

Many of the uninsured that I know are women who work part-time. They're either covered by their spouses or they simply choose not to spend the money to enroll. They choose to spend that money instead on children's tuition, vacations, etc. All well and good, but why should they hold out their hands to the government and demand the same level of health coverage that I earned by working full time for an entire career?

[TNdandelion]

Because if Congress had to use the same kind of healthcare...Senator Kennedy would be pushing up daisies.

[backhoe]

[Diogenesis]

P>

""BECAUSE WE CAN ....... SUCKERS"

[Waco]

They were going to do this too in the 90,s when it was Hilary-care they wanted to shove up everybodies axx.