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BARACK OBAMA’S AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S CHANGE FOR AMERICA
Porch Maunderings ^ | 8/24/09 | MHGinTN

Posted on 08/24/2009 10:21:08 AM PDT by MHGinTN

So, from whence came the healthcare bill now slogging through discussion at town halls and congressional backrooms? Whom designed this monster being spun, twisted, and lied about in the fifth column enemedia, in service to the Obama administration?

Well, since we know the TARP and Stimulus bills had major input from Apollo Alliance, it’s a sure bet that the healthcare bill is also the product of radical thinkers. And we need look no further than John Holdren, Jacob Hacker, and Tom Daschle to see the origins of a monster fascistic usurpation now claimed by congressional deadheads. Jacob Hacker was the ‘health industry’ adviser to the Edwards, Obama, and Clinton campaigns in 2008. John Holdren is the current science czar int eh White House, and he has openly advocated for population controls as the means to stop global degradation of the environment. He does not recognize a newborn as fully a human beings until perhaps socialization has begun! Retired Senator Tom Daschle has been pushing healthcare ‘reform’ as a lobbyist for years. Given his experience during the Clinton years, it was his advice to Obama that healthcare reform be passed quickly, before the public could discover the vagaries and debate begun in earnest over the issues.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: fascism; obamamerica
BARACK OBAMA’S AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S CHANGE FOR AMERICA, THE HOPE AND DREAMS OF RADICAL ACTIVISTS EVERYWHERE

From where have these thousand page plus bills sprung onto the American scene in so short a time? From the minds of ‘progressives’, ‘social activists’, and ’enlightened social engineers’ not even in political office prior to Obama taking control! Literally, within hours after Congress went into session in 2009, Congressional committees were issuing lengthy bills being rushed through for passage into law.

Congressman Obey, whose committee issued the Stimulus Package, couldn’t have conceived of such a lengthy socialist oriented bill in so short a time. He took the framework from already designed change oriented progressives not even in government, but rather in activist organizations seeking to change America, FAST. The dirty little secret perhaps missed by not reading the entire bill before voting on it is that the Stimulus Package contained billions in funding for these ‘progressive’ organizations, much of which will flow through front organizations of parent orgs who have joined in an alliance to change America!

As Barack Obama rose to prominence in 2008, rising with him was an agenda represented as a three-legged stool conceived as the brain child of Van Jones, now green jobs czar. But several of the czars answering only to the White House are sent up from the legs of this change oriented alliance stool, like Brian Deese, who worked for John Podesta and was appointed to fashion the ‘cash for clunkers’ government dole debacle designed to keep union jobs solvent by moving union made cars off of storage lots. This three-legged stool is named ‘The Apollo Alliance’ and the legs are unions, the green movement, and ‘social justice‘.

The unions include SEIU, the AFL-CIO, and the United Steelworkers, to name three. The green movement includes Sierra Club, Green Peace, and League of Conservative Voters, to name only three. The ‘social justice’ leg includes ACORN, ‘black farmers’, and the Ella Baker Center, to name three, yet ACORN is literally more than a hundred front organizations funneling taxpayer monies back to radical weatherman Wade Rathke‘s brain child.

It was the goal of Van Jones to integrate these three ‘change oriented’ fronts to achieve a rapid and complete transformation of America, by combining the assets of these general movements under one directive, the Apollo Alliance project. [ Van Jones was an avowed black nationalist serving time in prison when he became an avowed communist. He is now serving in Obama’s administration as the green jobs czar. ]

ACORN was founded by weatherman Wade Rathke, who was subsequently on the board of the Tides Foundation, which funded and gave credence to the Apollo Alliance. SEIU’s current VP, Gerald Hudson, is on the Apollo Board. John Podesta, president of the Soros funded Center For American Progress, is on the Apollo Board. Phil Angelides, once treasury secretary for the bankrupt California government is on the Apollo Board. In fact, if one looks at the board members of the Apollo Alliance, it is peopled by radicals and change oriented activists who have functioned in leadership roles for activist groups.

If you are not familiar with a social methodology know euphemistically as the Cloward-Piven Strategy, it would be good to take a long look at that methodology for changing America. Basically, the strategy embraces overloading services funded by the federal government in order to crash the system and sweep away the powers that be, to be replaced by ‘social justice’ mongers, the green movement, and various social change orgs like unions. Manufactured crisis is the hallmark of the Cloward-Piven strategy. Does Rahm Emanuel’s crisis quote come to mind? It should! To activist leadership, a crisis should never be allowed to go to waste.

That Cloward-Piven strategy to crash the system of federal funded programs, combined with a fascist approach to taking over control of major aspects of the American economy is what the Obama Administration is all about. The evidence is now overwhelming that such is the goal. The people writing the agenda for their brand of federal government are in fact right out of the Apollo Alliance and subsidiary orgs such as ACORN, SEIU. And Green Peace. Harry Reid even thanked the Apollo Alliance for helping to write the Stimulus bill, and the TARP bill oozed from a similar source.

First came nationalizing of the private banking system, reacting to a major financial crisis which threatened to close banks with too many calls on their assets, at nearly $600 billion before the calls were shut down. The source of those calls has yet to be made public, if anyone actually knows beyond the goons making the calls on assets. The plea was that if the fed did not inject nearly a trillion dollars immediately and seize the major banks (Goldman Saks and its competitors), the world-wide system would be crashed and all credit would seize up, stopping commerce world-wide.

While Bush was still in office, the first injection and seizure occurred. Then, when Obama came into power, the nationalizing of private banking industry was enacted, with Goldman Saks at the top because of Paulson’s influence. [ Hank Paulson was the past President of Goldman Saks, before becoming Bush’s Treasury Secretary.] As a sprinkling of infused cash was paid back, the monies were not paid back to the taxpayers, they were instead re-directed to other banking ‘needs’, in countries like Germany!

The next phase was to pass a cap and tax bill, which was the green movement’s leg of the Apollo Alliance equivalent of seizing the means for energy production and use in America. This action, if passed finally into law, will in fascist fashion give complete control of energy in America to the federal oligarchy Obama is fashioning. And 85% of the projected collections from energy producers and users has already been promised to constituent organizations rather than the federal tax coffers!

The next phase was to seize major portions of the American auto industry, in service to the union leg of the fascist Apollo Alliance stool. Oddly, Ford Motor Company declined the ‘offer’ and has remained solvent. Control of the auto industry reaches deeply into any industrial function associated to auto production, such as steel production, and will give the federal oligarchy power over every industry where unions can force their way in via the ‘balloting’ which unions may use to strong-arm non-union workers, effectively giving power to threaten any industry with union shutdown if their demands are not met. With the nationalizing of GM and Chrysler, we are witnessing the Obama administration service to a second leg of the Apollo stool, the unions.

The next phase is to take over the broad institution of healthcare in America, by demonizing the insurance industry and seizing the payment methodology for reimbursing physicians and medical institutions, while running the insurance industry out of business over the next ten years. [ The health-care industry is the largest employer in the U.S. It produces 17 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product. ]

As a means to institute ‘social justice’, taking over the healthcare industry will extend government forced medical care to illegals and welfare dolees at the expense of degrading the fundamental care, efficiency, and soundness of our current doctor run healthcare system. Federal oligarchs will make treatment decisions, dictate whom will receive what level of treatment, and control the means of housing and caring for all ages of American citizens. Death panels are but a small aspect of such fascist controls, and the means to formulate such panels was actually tacked on at the end of the Stimulus Bill already passed into law. Regions now seen as ‘red’ will be strong-armed into following the oligarch’s system or be denied payments and upgrades until they comply and follow the federal ‘mandates’.

Healthcare systems without entrepreneurial incentive see research in medicines and treatment advancements grind to a halt. Government run Healthcare will perniciously degrade the American healthcare system which is now hallmarked by innovation and technological discovery. Under total government control, focus will switch quickly from Doctor-Patient perspective, to bureaucrat-patient-doctor … the doctor could become less than a current physician’s assistant, relegated to merely following the guidelines dictated by federal oligarchs. With the new system, the federal bureaucracy will dictate ‘care‘ and terminations of same.

So, from whence came the healthcare bill now slogging through discussion at town halls and congressional backrooms? Whom designed this monster being spun, twisted, and lied about in the fifth column enemedia, in service to the Obama administration?

Well, since we know the TARP and Stimulus bills had major input from Apollo Alliance, it’s a sure bet that the healthcare bill is also the product of radical thinkers. And we need look no further than John Holdren, Jacob Hacker, and Tom Daschle to see the origins of a monster fascistic usurpation now claimed by congressional deadheads. Jacob Hacker was the ‘health industry’ adviser to the Edwards, Obama, and Clinton campaigns in 2008. John Holdren is the current science czar int eh White House, and he has openly advocated for population controls as the means to stop global degradation of the environment. He does not recognize a newborn as fully a human beings until perhaps socialization has begun! Retired Senator Tom Daschle has been pushing healthcare ‘reform’ as a lobbyist for years. Given his experience during the Clinton years, it was his advice to Obama that healthcare reform be passed quickly, before the public could discover the vagaries and debate begun in earnest over the issues.

The healthcare reform alliance is yet another brainchild of progressives who really don’t like the America we recognize, so they are hard at work changing it, sweeping away the Old Constitutional Republic, to be replaced by a federal oligarchy perhaps already too powerful to stop. We The People are being transmogrified--to borrow a term from Calvin & Hobbes--into subjects of a federal oligarchy, conceived by the Democratic Party as a benevolent despot empowered through burdensome taxation, tasked with controlling every social institution upon which individual existence depends.

Welcome to Obama’s Amerika, comrade. Progressives will take care of you and your offspring … from government approved birth to federally mandated burial.

1 posted on 08/24/2009 10:21:09 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Jim Thompson; Jim Robinson; LucyT; autumnraine; The Sons of Liberty; Shady Ray; editor-surveyor; ...
PING))))))
2 posted on 08/24/2009 10:24:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPfHOacDhGE


3 posted on 08/24/2009 10:25:58 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Thank you Mr. Robinson (toodamtall1@yahoo.com))
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To: MHGinTN
KEY ...
... is the fact that these promoter's of the health bill will not have the requirement of it being their health care.

They are exempt. Part of this bill being amassed, is it will be illegal for anyone to have the option of going to a medical doctor at their own expense. The government system is all there is except for the elites medical care and private doctors ... for only their treatments.

4 posted on 08/24/2009 10:33:10 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: MHGinTN

ping 4 later


5 posted on 08/24/2009 10:37:22 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: bert

Pingaling


6 posted on 08/24/2009 10:40:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

bttt


7 posted on 08/24/2009 10:52:02 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: MHGinTN; All

Excellent post.

Be sure and watch(and tivo) Glenn Beck’s show on Fox News this week. He is doing a special all week on the organizations behind Obama. The very ones you are speaking about in your post.


8 posted on 08/24/2009 10:58:44 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: bellyjelly40

Ping


9 posted on 08/24/2009 11:34:55 AM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: MHGinTN
Six months into the Obama administration, it should now be clear to all Americans: Hope and Change came to the White House wrapped in brass knuckles.*

*Michelle Malkin: Bully Boys: A Brief History of White House Thuggery townhall.com ^ | July 29, 2009 | Michelle Malkin


10 posted on 08/24/2009 12:14:30 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: MHGinTN

HOME RUN!!!!

BTTT!


11 posted on 08/24/2009 12:37:58 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: MHGinTN; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Thanks MHGinTN.


12 posted on 08/24/2009 3:10:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Vendome

kerping


13 posted on 08/24/2009 4:59:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: 4rcane

kerping


14 posted on 08/24/2009 5:22:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Venturer

kerping


15 posted on 08/24/2009 5:35:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Ahhh yes...... the dangling threads really did come from whole cloth.

That cloth might be described as CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.


16 posted on 08/25/2009 5:26:08 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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To: jazusamo; bamahead; Mrs. Don-o; don-o

ping


17 posted on 08/25/2009 1:04:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

btrl


18 posted on 08/25/2009 1:11:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You made me Tofu! (I didn't wanna do it... I didn't wanna do it...)")
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks MHGinTN, excellent piece!


19 posted on 08/25/2009 2:28:07 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: rockabyebaby; maggief

ping ... I printed several copies and handed them out at the Cong Roe townhall yesterday.


20 posted on 08/25/2009 3:53:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Salvation; NellieMae; jaycee

ping


21 posted on 08/25/2009 4:54:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: LucyT

pingalingaling


22 posted on 08/25/2009 6:57:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...
Retired Senator Tom Daschle has been pushing healthcare ‘reform’ as a lobbyist for years.

Given his experience during the Clinton years,

it was his advice to Obama that healthcare reform be passed quickly, before the public could discover the vagaries and debate begun in earnest over the issues.

23 posted on 08/25/2009 7:04:00 PM PDT by LucyT (0bama on cocaine: "Pot and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." All wee weed-up.)
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To: LucyT

Hey Tommy, you traitor, it’s too late.


24 posted on 08/25/2009 7:05:44 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: MHGinTN

THE GRIM REAPING OF AMERCA


AMERICA AND PATRIOTISM AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

25 posted on 08/25/2009 7:08:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: LucyT

Swallow fast, before you can taste how bad it is!


26 posted on 08/25/2009 7:20:42 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: MHGinTN

btt


27 posted on 08/25/2009 7:21:51 PM PDT by maggief
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To: girlangler

kerping


28 posted on 08/25/2009 7:30:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

“ACORN was founded by weatherman Wade Rathke”

Not quite. Rathke was late to the game. Bill Clinton helped found, encouraged, and mentored the NWRO in Arkansas when he was governor. The NWRO opened offices in Chicago and a couple of other large cities with large black populations. As it grew, the Rathke Brothers came to it as organizers and it morphed into ACORN.
ACORN is a clinton baby, just like the Balkanization of ethnic and diversity groups dividing Americans from Americans.


29 posted on 08/25/2009 7:37:28 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: MHGinTN

There’s no doubt that the overarching philosophies encompassed in the HR 3200 and similar such undertakings come from Big Left (Soros, Rathke, Ayers, Daschle, et. al.).

But when it is crafted into legislation a lot of the actual writing is done by the front line lobbyists with the most to gain. They usually work in tandem with various staffers in congressional offices where (again) the members with the most to gain are the chief sponsors.

No one ever reads anything because once the lobbyist is IDed and co-located with the specific subject, that’s all any of the members care about. That is the quid pro quo. Something as big as HR 3200 was probably actually written by 1,000 different people over years.


30 posted on 08/25/2009 8:43:37 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: MHGinTN

**John Holdren, Jacob Hacker, and Tom Daschle to see the origins of a monster fascistic usurpation now claimed by congressional deadheads.**

So true. Congress doesn’t write bills this fast. It had to come from an outside source. Sickening, isn’t it?


31 posted on 08/25/2009 8:49:08 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Red in Blue PA; RushIsMyTeddyBear; sneakers; parsifal

kerping


32 posted on 08/26/2009 7:23:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

pingaling


33 posted on 08/26/2009 7:25:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: vaudine; Red Steel; Rome2000

pingalingaling


34 posted on 08/26/2009 7:37:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Listen, I got “transmogrified” once and it was not fun. After surgery I had to sit down on this inflatable pillow for about a week. I ain’t never getting transmogrified again, period.

parsy, who says it was humiliating


35 posted on 08/26/2009 7:45:58 PM PDT by parsifal (Dare I mention the term common sense? Book of Vinnie - Chapter 58 Verse 1 (The Boomer Bible))
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To: swheats; keats5

ping


36 posted on 08/26/2009 7:51:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

these basterds are brilliant. It wont work but they actually has come this far to think they could change America so drastically.

Americans are a different breed. Look at our history. The same Spirit that inspired our Declaration is the same Spirit that is keeping it. This administration is it’s wake up call.

The new voters that entered the process hopefully has learned there is a responsibility that comes with their vote.


37 posted on 08/26/2009 8:16:26 PM PDT by swheats (Time is the greatest equalizer. This isn't a Godless society yet. Be fruitful and multiply.)
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To: celtic gal
Ping ... There are a few paying attention. But far too few to actually stop this well planned coup to sweep away the Old Constitutional Republic.

I went to my congressman's Townhall Monday and passed this out to a few folks, including two in his office. I don't expect I'll be hearing from them, but my phone has started getting a daily ring and hand up at odd times. The caller(s) are blocking their number from *69 caller ID info.

38 posted on 08/26/2009 8:32:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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hang up NOT hand up. Time to get to bed


39 posted on 08/26/2009 8:33:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I’ll give your thread a good read. :-)


40 posted on 08/26/2009 8:45:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Pingaling


41 posted on 08/26/2009 9:28:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Mariner

kerping ... I think you’re right, the time for moderation has passed.


42 posted on 08/26/2009 9:55:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: swheats

“Americans are a different breed. Look at our history. The same Spirit that inspired our Declaration is the same Spirit that is keeping it. This administration is it’s wake up call.”

I was at a town hall meeting last night and the place was electric. It was in Conroe TX, and I think there were only two dims present and tey were quiet for the most part.

My God, the masses are pissed beyond belief. I believe with all my heart, the country will grind to a stand still if this is past. There will be / should be mass walk offs from work and I believe social unrest like this country has never seen.

If I were terminally ill, what wouldn’t I do?


43 posted on 08/27/2009 5:35:59 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: Granny Rudd; xcamel

Pingalingaling


44 posted on 08/27/2009 8:53:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: null and void

ping


45 posted on 08/27/2009 12:32:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: girlangler

Can’t recall if I pinged you!


46 posted on 08/27/2009 6:18:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
obama,Obama,Clown,Nope,politics,satire
47 posted on 08/27/2009 6:28:52 PM PDT by Flag_This (No, Massoud, there are no men left in Washington.)
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To: geologist
"KEY ... ... is the fact that these promoter's of the health bill will not have the requirement of it being their health care. They are exempt. Part of this bill being amassed, is it will be illegal for anyone to have the option of going to a medical doctor at their own expense. The government system is all there is except for the elites medical care and private doctors ... for only their treatments."

And that is how Obama and his crypto-communist followers plan to kill off 25 million Americans (all of us "red-neck" conservative capitialists.)

48 posted on 08/27/2009 9:03:08 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: StormEye

Essentially in this”Bill” in the House ... we will be turning our bodies over to a committee of bureaucrats that follow the rules (that they make up and decide on).

God help us in our day..... in the name of Your Son Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Amen.

Notice no bill exists yet ... We/they will be passing a bill that is not written yet. It is a work in progress.

Who knows what the final bill will contain?


49 posted on 08/28/2009 9:06:39 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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