Posted on 12/11/2009 8:50:14 PM PST by Phileleutherus Franciscus
Pass on to PS to please not let the door hit him in the rear on the way out.
Thank you.
Your attitude is shared by Rush Limbaugh which is one more reason his show is so successful.
LOL. Nope, no problem so long as your faith is strong and you have plenty of ammo.
I know not to read those threads because I have tried. Yes, they sound nuts.
Let's see. You have two guys who are obviously out of step with the majority on the forum, including the forum OWNER.
Knowing this fact, they nevertheless go onto threads they disagree with, taking potshots, calling people names, generally TRYING to stir up flamewars. And then they complain about it?
And then, to top it off, they want to whine about "religious bigotry" because people have the nerve to actually engage in religious debates? Sorry to break it to you guys, but in a free society, on a free forum, especially one called Free Republic, people are going to debate about things you don't like or couldn't care less about. Get over it. There's a simple way for you to avoid it, which is called "not participating in those threads."
The answer is NOT to have one of your buddies post some ill-thought out flounce explaining to everyone else why you're just too durn smart and tolerant and special to exist on this forum with the rest of us.
You'd think that after having been on FR for "so long" (but frankly, I don't care HOW long someone has been on FR, if they think that their seniority gives them the right to be an ass, think again), Pistolshot would know better by now.
So please, Pistolshot and wacka, don't let the door hit you in the rears on the way out.
......And a few years ago a group of evolutionists tried to force FR over to their way of thinking and they soon found themselves on the outs.
FR is a pro-God, pro-Creator, pro-Life, pro-Liberty site.
And now we have yet another group of Darwinists trying to have their Darwinist way with us. Well, as I've said before what doesn't kill us will only make us stronger.
Darwin Central has again declared war on FR. They have ping lists and email lists and will try to pull away as many FReepers as they possibly can. So be it. Those who would rather go with Darwin, please go. I sure as hell won't try to stop you.
FR will remain a pro-God, pro-Life, pro-Liberty, pro-Creator conservative site.....
......And a few years ago a group of evolutionists tried to force
FR over to their way of thinking and they soon found themselves on the outs.
It's the forcing of your opinion on others through rude and boorish behavior that gets you zotted. Not your beliefs in themselves. This needs to be well understood and repeated often.
No one grabbed you by your hand and forced you to click on any of the crevo threads, now did they Pistolshot?
There are, at any given time, hundreds of threads discussing hundreds of different topics here on FR - don’t like any of them, don’t CLICK on them. Pretty simple, eh? There are a lot of topics on FR that inflame the passions of our members, and in a way, that’s part of the beauty of our forum.
I don’t mourn those who give up on FR simply because they don’t like the tone of a particular type of thread. It strikes me as a from of intolerance in itself.
Therein lies the key.
Typically, the evos on this thread cannot tolerate a creation/ID post going up. Their typical methodology is to initiate a keyword spam, followed by going onto the thread and trying to stir up a flame war, while largely ignoring the original subject of the thread itself.
I have NOT seen this take place on the (granted, less prevalent, thanks to GGG) pro-evolution posts that go up) from the creationist/ID side.
I've had a few good discussions with evos over the years, mostly with that small subset of evos who are actually intelligent enough to conduct a scientific conversation that doesn't involve asking if Noah rode a brontosaurus. However, the fault lies mostly with the evos who are, indeed, trying to to force their opinions by disrupting discussion of opposing viewpoints.
Based on seeing the threads go by on the Latest Posts page I'd tend to agree. They are very aggressive and hostile. That is not FRiendly.
If Jim decided that their verbal thuggery had reached the point that they needed to be bounced then it's his site and I also agree with him for what that matters. Debate is GREAT! Eye-scratching cat fights make me depressed. We're supposed to all be Conservatives here and if not you get the zot. The shallow name-calling "religious" wars are, well, very off-putting to say the least.
Long Live Free Republic. Someone needs to keep the peace. JimRob does.
I think one of the things most objected to by the evos, is that quite a few of the cres make very little effort to gain a proper understanding of scientific terms and concepts relevant to understanding what evolution *does* claim. And apparently persist in their errors even after being told repeatedly that they are making elementary errors, or engaging in strawmen.
It can be *enormously* trying to try to debate, or to teach people, who don't want to learn.
And so people who approach the dispute from a higher level of learning, or more respect for intellectualism, are flamed less, and treated with more (though sometimes grudging) respect by the evos.
Still don't understand why Patrick Henry's homepage got removed several times, though.
Cheers!
I would tend to agree. I had scaled back my FR involvement in recent months until just recently because it seemed like the jerks were starting to take over the place, and I was being sucked into flame wars that I didn't really want to be in, but had acquired a "stake" in because of defending somebody who was the object of unwarranted attacks. Not just the evos either, mind you. There seems to be a certain subset of FReeper on here who can't handle it when people disagree with them - it immediately becomes personal.
Oh and one other thing - I've seen little in the way of actual religious "bigotry" on here. I've seen a lot of religious debates, sometimes heated, but I don't qualify the mere act of disagreeing with someone else's religion as "bigotry," as some on here seem to. In fact, I'm just the opposite - I've been meaning to write an essay, never gotten around to it yet, as to why religious debate is GOOD for a pluralistic society. Quite the opposite of the "don't talk about it because people might get offended and think you're a bigot!" mentality.
True enough. In general, it's always a wise idea to know what you're talking about before getting into a debate about it, and not just on crevo threads.
It would help, too, if the evos would make an effort to actually understand what creationist arguments are, too. Both sides perhaps need some primers. I would suggest they all sit down and read Del Ratzsch's book "The Battle of Beginnings," which deals more with what both sides believe, rather than arguing the science itself. The author would be considered an IDer today, who used to be a Darwinist, hence he knows both sides.
I know outright atheists who claim not to believe in evolution, in other words, atheism is sufficiently stupid without subscribing to any other brain-dead doctrines...
I think we're on the same page here. The personal antagonism here on many topics has increased in the past couple months (but didn't start then, of course.)
Jim Robinson knows what he's doing and the false arguments about his "purity purges" are just part of the shallow noise-generating rudeness.
I see lots and lots of different opinions every single day here. There is *never* a problem unless they are moonbattery or abusive. Period.
And one of the reasons I'm here, on the single most decent public forum on the web IMO, is *exactly* because decent, conservative adults can talk about serious and silly things without the raucus,mind-numbingly crass nonsense you see on other sites.
It's not much but I make monthly contributions and as a contributing member I think Jim maintains a good balance between free thought and focused objectives in a FRiendly forum. If he occasionally bounces disruptive factions then so be it. Every respectable establishment in the world does that.
There. That's my opinion for what it's worth. :0)
ZOT!
Hi Quiz.. good post
Perhaps the author of the excerpt would like to comment upon your interpretation of his post; evidentally it would be interesting to many freepers to see if he concurs with you in your interpretation of his words.
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