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1 posted on 02/26/2010 5:53:38 AM PST by Sasparilla
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Gee, I hope so.


2 posted on 02/26/2010 5:55:46 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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I can see making a mistake in visual identification.
Airsoft guns, especially the high-end Japanese stuff, are designed to look and feel as close to the real thing as possible. Shooting a kid with an airsoft gun is a perfectly logical mistake.

However, confusing the function and potential of these is just stupid.


3 posted on 02/26/2010 5:55:51 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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Holy crap. A $400 toy rifle?


4 posted on 02/26/2010 5:56:21 AM PST by MNnice
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PING!


8 posted on 02/26/2010 6:01:30 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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Wont Washington’s new Supreme Court Ruling take care of this?


9 posted on 02/26/2010 6:11:46 AM PST by Concho
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These are fantastic weapons that are great for training without using the high-cost of live ammo!


10 posted on 02/26/2010 6:18:19 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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It sounds like the ATF has found a way to ban all firearms.Just make a claim they can easily be converted to fully automatic weapons.


11 posted on 02/26/2010 6:20:49 AM PST by puppypusher
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So what do you have to replace to get it to fire real ammo? The barrel, receiver and the magazine? What's left other than the stock?

Is this like the computer upgrade where you disconnect the power cord from the computer, throw away the computer and put in a new one, but claim that it is just a parts upgrade because you kept the cord? I've don't those to avoid idiots in accounting at some places where you just claim to be buying a few upgrade parts like the motherboard, CPU, case, disk drive, DVD drive and power supply, but didn't want to have to justify a capital purchase of a whole new computer.

13 posted on 02/26/2010 6:30:52 AM PST by KarlInOhio (New Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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I would love to see the BATFE test one of these with a real 5.56 Nato round. Lets take a look at the physics:-

The airsoft gun fires a .2gr plastic BB pellet at about 480fps, using a CO2 gas pulse of about 15 to 50 psi.

A real AR-15 fires a 55gr FMJ bullet at about 3,200 fps, using a controlled gunpowder explosion at chamber pressures of about 60,000psi.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE BATFE imbeciles, do the test and fire a 5.56 NATO round from this toy gun. Also make sure that you have a nice group of observers tightly grouped around the gun to experience the results.


18 posted on 02/26/2010 7:09:56 AM PST by LegalAlien1949
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20 posted on 02/26/2010 7:23:11 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Stupid as stupid does.


22 posted on 02/26/2010 7:34:25 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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BATF, like ANY government bureaucracy, is ALWAYS seeking ways to EXPAND their authority and power.

By doing so, they can justify increased staff, which justifies upgrading the salary of existing employees who then can move on to supervisory titles.

This is the great danger involved in creating a bureaucracy. It becomes a self-fulfilling entity with a life of its own.

The fact is, the U.S. does NOT need a special police force to just deal with gun crimes, liquor crimes and cigarette crimes.

ATF should be dissolved and those of its staff thought fit to be retained, incorporated into the FBI.

This was one of Reagan’s unaccomplished goals.

My suspicion is his idiot Vice-President was one of the culprits involved in derailing that idea.


23 posted on 02/26/2010 7:40:11 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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I’m sure just like my MP5 airsoft gun can easily shoot 9mm. What a bunch of morons.

I guess no one at the ATF has a degree in chemistry or physics.


27 posted on 02/26/2010 7:54:38 AM PST by Azeem (The world will look up and shout "Save us!"... And I'll whisper "No.")
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I've never even heard of this toy, but if the manual is right, there are some real-looking parts in there. The manual can be found here (about halfway down the page, search for "WE Tech M4"). Needless to say, I now want one of 'em!


31 posted on 02/26/2010 8:47:45 AM PST by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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No biggie. Let the cretins at BATF get their panties in a wad over this one.

Numerous studies have proven that a decent marksman with a properly sighted semi-auto can be MORE effective than some clown running around “spraying and praying”, wearing out barrels and pissing away precious ammo with a full auto.

Let the motto be “One shot. One kill.”


35 posted on 02/26/2010 9:42:36 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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From the article at the link (emphasis added):

This function allows for realistic training which mimics the real rifle.

With the advent of the WE M4, SWAT teams, Law Enforcement, and any other individuals who are interested in training in a tactical environment have the perfect tool.

That's the real problem. Can't have Joe Citizen practicing small unit tactics.

37 posted on 02/26/2010 9:54:07 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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Facepalm - Multiple

38 posted on 02/26/2010 10:02:27 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Jim Robinson is the onle person that sweets proper nut sweet. leave the man alone."--Sarah-bot)
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This is like saying noone should drive SUVs because you can fit them with bulletproof glass and armored doors...

I play airsoft. My gear is very realistic, even down to my plate carrier loadout. But I can tell you that these things just do not have the physical capacity to withstand the force behind even a .223 round.


39 posted on 02/26/2010 10:36:55 AM PST by derekr44
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The designs don’t allow for cartridges. These people are completely stupid along with truly evil.


44 posted on 02/26/2010 11:19:29 AM PST by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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You’ll put your eye out!!


45 posted on 02/26/2010 11:54:33 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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