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Political Opposition to High Speed Rail is Beyond Stupidity
TriplePundit ^ | Wednesday, August 18, 2010 | Nick Aster

Posted on 08/18/2010 7:49:38 AM PDT by Willie Green

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To: Willie Green
The problem is not high-speed rail, Willie.

It's the people who run high-speed rail.

Metropolitan Transportation Districts are considered by blacks to be reparations, and they believe they are entitled to run them while paying themselves exorbitant salaries and laying track for political/reparations purposes rather than laying track where the most people will benefit from it.

All MSDs are cesspools of theft and corruption.

That's the problem, Willie.

You're one of those people planning on lining your pockets, aren't ya?

21 posted on 08/18/2010 8:07:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Can you take your vehicle with you?

It would be cool to take the train if you could take your car with you- why don’t trains do this now?

And I dont mean this new expensive high-speed terrorist magnet


22 posted on 08/18/2010 8:10:43 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: Willie Green

“You can read some more of my ramblings on the topic here,”

The guy admits he’s a total idiot!!!!


23 posted on 08/18/2010 8:10:43 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: lacrew
Lets see...expanding highways is expensive...good thing it is paid for with fuel taxes.

Not true. Lawmakers don't increase fuel tax or tolls to keep up with the rising costs of highway maintenance.
So user fees barely pay for half of our highway budgets. Highways are being subsidized by other funds.

24 posted on 08/18/2010 8:11:58 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: hosepipe

“Answer: SKYPE... “

What kind of transportation is that?


25 posted on 08/18/2010 8:12:18 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Willie Green
Political Opposition to

There, fixed it. So-called "high speed" rail is a giant step back to 1850. We need more highways and cheaper gasoline, or something to replace it. And the government needs to get the heck out of the whole thing. Even the railroads of the 1800's were designed and built by private companies. The government-sponsored lines quickly turned into boondoggles.

26 posted on 08/18/2010 8:15:27 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: Willie Green
(Sorry, HTML failure. Should have previewed.)

Political Opposition to High Speed Rail is Beyond Stupidity

There, fixed it. So-called "high speed" rail is a giant step back to 1850. We need more highways and cheaper gasoline, or something to replace it. And the government needs to get the heck out of the whole thing. Even the railroads of the 1800's were designed and built by private companies. The government-sponsored lines quickly turned into boondoggles.

27 posted on 08/18/2010 8:18:01 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: kenavi
Right-of-way costs can be a bear in some areas, I believe.

Two words

EMINENT DOMAIN

28 posted on 08/18/2010 8:25:25 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Willie Green
Even with the possible benefits of a high speed rail system there are a few issues. First building any such system would require years of permitting, environmental impact statements and environmental and not in my backyard lawsuits. I doubt our current interstate highway system would ever have been built having to face the kind of environmental BS that would be required today.

Second the amount of capital needed for any such system would be huge. Would private investors be willing to foot the cost or would this be a "let the government buy it" project? If the government is footing any part of the bill, then how will they get paid back and will this project require continuing government subsidies to operate? I fear that these high speed rail systems will just be another government funded boondoggle that will get built and operate only with the taxpayers paying for it.

29 posted on 08/18/2010 8:26:26 AM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: Willie Green

A few issues with the writer’s premise:

Comfortable and convenient are opinons. To me, my car is much more convenient and the fact that I can stop anytime I want for food or other breaks negates (in my opinion) the comforts of the train.

It is only faster than a flight if you are going a short distance, but if TSA ever started monitoring trains, that would change.

Rail stimulating massive economic development is not a fact. It is possible, but it is also possible that development wont happen near stations. It is purely a hope that this will happen.

Riding trains will not cut down on obesity unless everyone has to walk a mile from where they are to the train station, which will cut into the convenience factor above. Plus, the cutting of obseity arguement is dependent on the economic development argument, so now we have a wish based on a hope.

The only freeways Ive seen congested are the ones right by the big cities, which would still be congested if people rode the train from Houston to Dallas. The congestion happens when they get out of the train and get a car.

People love it is another opinion.

Other than that, great article.


30 posted on 08/18/2010 8:27:53 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Admin Moderator; All
Metropolitan Transportation Districts are considered by blacks to be reparations,

I'm going to request to the moderators that they NOT remove your reply, nor am I gonna wildly pound the abuse button and demand that you be banned. I prefer to think that most of us are reasonable adults here, and can behave as such if we put our minds to it.
But I think it's important for both you and other FReepers to really stop and consider just how ignorant and racist that statement actually is.

Transit Authorities are "black reparations"???

Good grief... that's the same ignorant stupidity alluded to by Walker campaign spokesbimbo Jill Bader

31 posted on 08/18/2010 8:29:37 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: PGR88
When libs start using phrases like “sustainable development” the hairs on my neck stand on end in warning.

That makes two of us. The author knows what's best for us - we're supposed to live in dense urban housing, and we're supposed to like it!
32 posted on 08/18/2010 8:31:59 AM PDT by rockvillem
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To: Willie Green
Unfortunately, there’s almost no way a real high speed network will be built in the United States without direct government funding.

Whenever you see a statement like this, political opposition is not only smart, but necessary.

Anytime taxpayer funding (aka government funding) is involved, deep scrutiny is waranted. It may come to pass that a high speed rail is sensible for a given specific situation. But to make a blanket statement that resembles 'any opposition to any high speed rail is stupid' is meant to ridicule those who want responsible government spending.

Willie Green, you ought to be ashamed for posting this garbage on this particular website.

33 posted on 08/18/2010 8:32:12 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Willie Green
I repeat: MSDs are ALL run by blacks, and they are considered to be reparations and an opportunity to stick it to Whitey.

Hit the abuse button. Prove me right.

34 posted on 08/18/2010 8:36:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.)
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To: Willie Green

You bet its cleaner...a heck of a lot cleaner than sticking a .45 in my face and cleaning out my wallet the old-fashioned way would be.


35 posted on 08/18/2010 8:38:34 AM PDT by mo
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Hit the abuse button. Prove me right.

No. You put your own ignorance on display for everybody to see.
That proves MY point, not yours.

36 posted on 08/18/2010 8:54:17 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Unfortunately, there’s almost no way a real high speed network will be built in the United States without direct government."

Not just the building. Even if the tracks were free, a la GM debt, no passenger train exists anywhere that doesn't receive tax subsidies for OPERATING costs of union employees, featherbedding admin, political hires. ( Think your local county,state hack municipality..whatever )

37 posted on 08/18/2010 8:56:39 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Willie Green
Unfortunately, there’s almost no way a real high speed network will be built in the United States without direct government funding. The reason is simple – it’s very expensive to get started, and requires all kinds of political cooperation from the federal to the local level.

Ok, Nick, we'll pretend for a moment that you aren't stupid. America is broke. So, where are the federal funds coming from to build a high speed rail line?? China?? I don't think so.

Secondly, who's gonna run it?? UP, SoPac, CSX, or AmTrak?? We know the answer and it ain't pretty.

If America's passenger rail system still had some sort of relevancy outside of the northeast corridor, it MIGHT be worth investigating. But, America doesn't. And, America has vast, wide open spaces out west that will cost a lot of money to develop a high speed rail system for.

I dearly love train travel but, passenger train travel will have to remain part of America's romantic past. It's day has come and gone and there is no likelihood of it coming again unless zero crams it down America's throat, just as he has done with every bill he has pushed through the Congress.

38 posted on 08/18/2010 9:03:13 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: Michael.SF.
California is planning on spending $43 BILLION dollars on high speed rail between SF and LA. As I posted on another of Willie's articles, that amount of money would fly 25,000 people PER DAY, ROUND TRIP from SFO to LAX for 27 years at today's airfares!

Of course, 25,000 people do not travel to and fro each day. Assuming a generous 4 round trips a day on the train, government could essentially subisdize air travel between SFO and LAX for approximately 150 years.

39 posted on 08/18/2010 9:21:07 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird

(S)

but how will Reid and pelosi sell those land parcels they bought in other names?

how will they sell the construction project in exchange for “contributions”?

This is not about a train(s) these are all about corruption.

(/s)


40 posted on 08/18/2010 9:31:12 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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