Posted on 09/06/2010 8:39:06 AM PDT by Mister Ghost
Nations give to their women a precious place in their society not just give their rights but also, giving a value of their beauty, give her sense of her femininity; from that level you can measure that nation as a civilized nation, country because one reasons of nations development is relating with women & their rights & how they have an effective roles in societies.
-What about Iraq’s beautiful women now?
-Where they are? Or who hid them? Why we don’t hear about our beauty queen? Iraq’s Beauty Queen?
The interesting thing in this issue we had our beauty queen in 1947!!!!!!
Her name is Reneh Dankor.
- Can you believe it????
-Imagine Iraq before 60 years ago & enjoying with beauty.
-Imagine a country had time & mood to have a beauty queen at that time where life was simpled as they said. YES, we had Iraq’s beauty queen at that time, someone will ask which is better situation for Iraq at 1947 or 2010 ????
(Excerpt) Read more at easternliberty.com ...
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Eastern Liberty is a blog written by two Iraqi Chaldean women in Iraq and hopefully Freepers will check them out.
Instead of spamming this board with rabidly ignorant Leftist propaganda, get up off your ass, give up your little bubble world neo isolationist dogmas and learn what they hell you are talking about.
JUST because some one claims to be a certain think on a blog does not make it so. Instead of mindlessly regurgitating what ever you hear that happens to validate your Neo Isolationist dogmas, try doing at least a bit of critical thinking.
Sorry, but women in Iraq did wear miniskirts in the 70s. I’ve seen the photos. And they were not snatched off the street. Iraqi Women in the 70s were among the most liberated women in the Middle East. Unfortunately their rights have gone down the drain.
ah yes, the good ol’ days under saddam when women enjoyed the freedom to be terrorized as much as male citizens, maybe even more!
Who could forget Saddam’s equal opportunity programs?
mass gassings
rape rooms
fedayeen beheadings
torture
and of course, special virgin hunting licenses for Qusay and Uday
Just look at the evil we wrought by removing him
sarc
Blame the terrorists for that.
MINISKIRTS GONE
“It’s a far cry from the 1970s and 1980s, the heyday of women’s rights in Iraq, when women advanced rapidly in the professions and could walk down the street in miniskirts.”
http://articles.sfgate.com/2003-01-25/news/17472892_1_iraqi-women-women-s-rights-iraqi-christian
Your are so welded to your Neo isolationist bubble world dogmas that you simply IGNORE all facts about Saddam's Iraq to cling to your demented opinions that it was BETTER when Saddam was filling mass graves and rape rooms then it is now.
HERE for the about the 1000 time is what Iraq was about.
This time actually try learning something about Iraq that does NOT validate your emotion based dogmas.
Why Iraq
One of the really infuriating things in modern politics is the level of disinformation, misinformation, demagoguery and out right lying going on about the mission in Iraq. Democrats have spent the last 3+ years lying about Iraq out of a political calculation. The assumption is that the natural isolationist mindset of the average American voter, linked to the inherent Anti Americanism (what is misnamed the "Anti War movement") of the more feverish Democrat activists (especially those running the US's National "News" media) would restore them to national political dominance. The truth is the Democrat Party Leadership has simply lacked the courage to speak truth to whiners. The truth is that even if Al Gore won the 2000 election and 09-11 still happened we would be doing the EXACT same things in Iraq we are doing now.
Based on the political situation in the region left over from the 1991 Gulf War plus the domestic political consensus built up in BOTH parties since 1991 as well as fundamental military strategic laws, there was NO viable strategic choice for the US but to take out Iraq after finishing the initial operations in Afghanistan.
To start with Saddam's Iraq was our most immediate threat. We could NOT commit significant military forces to another battle with Saddam hovering undefeated on our flank nor could we leave significant forces watching Saddam. The political containment of Iraq was breaking down. That what Oil for Food was all about. Oil for Food was an attempt by Iraq to break out of it's diplomatic isolation and slip the shackles the UN Sanctions put on it's military. There there was the US Strategic position to consider.
The War on Islamic Fascism is different sort of war. in facing this Asymmetrical threat, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone.
Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The "Holy" soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is mostly neutral in terms of guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).
Did any of the critics of liberating Iraq ever look at a map? Iraq, for which we had the political, legal and moral justifications to attack, is the strategic high ground of the Middle East. A Geographic barrier that severs ground communication between Iran and Syria apart as well as providing another front of attack in either state or into Saudi Arabia if needed.
There were other reasons to do Iraq but here is the strategic military reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.
Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. One has to wonder if the American people have either the emotional maturity, nor the intellect" to understand. It's so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like "No Blood for Oil" or "We support the Troops, bring them home" or dumbest of all "We are creating terrorists" then to actually THINK.
Westerners in general, and the US citizens in particular seem to have trouble grasping the fundamental fact of this foe. These Islamic Fascists have NO desire to co-exist with them. The extremists see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. There is simply no way to coexist with people who completely believe their "god" will reward them for killing us.
So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest of the Jihadists realize we are serious. They same way killing enough Germans, Italians and Japanese eliminated the ideologies of Nazism, Fascism and Bushido.
Americans need to understand how Bin Laden and his ilk view us. In the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming "We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad" and recruit the next round of "holy warriors". Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11-01 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it -
If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
Winston Churchill
LOL.
What was that again about women being snatched off the streets in miniskirts in the 70s.
You post a lot of blather, but you don’t really seem to
know what you are discussing when it comes to Iraq.
I suggest you devote a little more time to actually reading about Iraq’s history.
This time, instead of snapping off a knee jerk response in less then 2 minutes, go back, read and think for a change.
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