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Killing the Texas Boaters Americans Won’t Kill
Hot Air ^ | October 2, 2010 | directorblue

Posted on 10/05/2010 6:53:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Rio Grande Valley’s KRGV television reports that another American was killed on Falcon Lake by an ‘undocumented worker’.* The frantic 911 call a wife made after her husband was shot by Mexican pirates has been released. It’s a first hand account of those terrifying moments on the water as David and Tiffany Hartley came under attack. In the end only Tiffany would survive. Dispatcher: Hello? Ma’am? Yes. Okay. Are you sure that your husband got shot? Tiffany: Yes. In his head. Dispatcher: Okay. Yeah. Was he thrown out of the jet ski that he’s in the water or something? Tiffany: He was thrown off the jet ski and I couldn’t pick him up to get him on mine. (sobbing) Oh God. Dispatcher: Ma’am? Were you shot at on the Mexican side or on the US side? So it was the Mexican Side. Okay, did you see anybody? Tiffany: There were three boats.

Tiffany Hartley told deputies she and her husband David were jet skiing near the town of old Guerrrero. Hartley told investigators her husband was shot in the head and killed. She says she was forced to leave his body behind as the gunmen fired more bullets at her… Zapata County Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez Jr. thinks those boats were pirates working for the drug cartel. He’s been warning residents for months to stay off the water. The pirates are patrolling the Mexican side of the lake and robbing boaters at gun point. Gonzalez wants authorities in Mexico to search for David Hartley’s body, however he thinks it may already be too late. …Hartley did tell authorities after the shooting she got help from a man on shore… The good Samaritan wants to remain anonymous because he fears for his life… “Three boats approached them, waving guns talking in Spanish,” he said. “They got scared, spooked then they heard the gunshots going on. She could see they were hitting the water and the water was coming up at them…all of a sudden she sees her husband flying off.” Tiffany told him she turned around to go take care of her husband but two pirates went after her jetski. One pirate held a gun to her head. Once he left she tried to pull her husband body onto her jetski but she didn’t have the strength. …CHANNEL 5 NEWS has been tracking at least five violent incidents on the lake over the past 5 months. -April 30th: Four heavily armed men boarded two boats near the Old Guerrero area demanding money. -May 6th: Two armed men approached a boat near marker 14 and demanded cash. -May 16th: Five armed men boarded a boat on the United States side of the lake near marker 7. -Aug 31st: Falcon lake pirates, using a small boat marked “Game Wardin” tried to stop a Texas fisherman. Then of course the worst violence incident to date happened on Thursday September 30th when David Hartley was murdered. Authorities say the robbers are believed to be members of a drug trafficking organization. They’re heavily armed using AK-47s or AR-15 rifles to threaten their victims. Rather than sealing the border and shutting down Mexican drug cartels operating with impunity in the southwest, the Obama White House is instead suing Arizona and its law enforcement arms to prevent it from protecting American citizens. Remember this outrage when you enter the voting booth in November.

* The left-wing loon Gloria Allred claims the term ‘illegal alien’ is demeaning.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration
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To: celtic gal

The other thing that bothers me is that Falcon Lake is known to be a dangerous place to go and what sane person would go to the Mexican side when there are the pirates..


They were living in Reyonsa, Mexico about 2 1/2 years and just recently moved back to the US. This may have lessened their fear of going across the border on the lake. Who knows at this stage of the investigation.


21 posted on 10/06/2010 6:37:02 AM PDT by deport (TEXAS -- Early Voting begins OCT. 18, 2010 (vote early and often)
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To: deport
The Falcon Lake Murder and Mexico's Drug Wars October 21, 2010
The Falcon Lake Murder and Mexico's Drug Wars | STRATFOR STRATFOR published an analysis last Wednesday noting that a reliable source in Mexico informed us that the Sept. 30 shooting death of U.S. citizen David Hartley on Falcon Lake — which straddles the U.S.-Mexico border — was a mistake committed by a low-level member of the Los Zetas drug trafficking organization. The source also informed us that those responsible for Hartley’s death are believed to have disposed of his body and that the Zeta hierarchy was conducting a damage-control operation to punish those responsible for the death and to distance the cartel from the murder. The source further reported that the murder of the lead Tamaulipas state investigator on the case, Rolando Armando Flores Villegas — whose head was delivered in a suitcase to the Mexican military’s Eight Zone headquarters in Reynosa on Oct. 12 — was a specific message from Los Zetas to Mexican authorities to back off from the investigation.

Read more: The Falcon Lake Murder and Mexico's Drug Wars | STRATFOR

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20101020_falcon_lake_murder_and_mexicos_drug_wars

Anybody want to change their opinions now?

22 posted on 10/22/2010 9:10:48 PM PDT by BigSkyDream
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To: BigSkyDream

Anybody want to change their opinions now?


Naw.... I still want to know what happened not what some ‘reliable source’ is putting out about the cartels.


23 posted on 10/23/2010 6:04:35 AM PDT by deport (TEXAS -- Early Voting begins OCT. 18, 2010 (vote early and often)
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To: deport
What do you want to know? My son was a friend and co-worker of David Hartley. Do you want to know about his character or that of his wife?
Do you want to know about the Canadian oil field company they work for that had opened a district in Mexico and why David Hartley and his wife were that last non-Hispanics to work there in Mexico after every one else left after seeing headless corpses in the streets down there chose to return to the US and Canada. Or how the house the Hartley's lived in at a gated community in Mexico was broken into and a warning was conveyed to them by the drug cartel to get out of Mexico.
Or are you one of those folks that gets all your news from the National Enquirer and love the drama of being the first to jump on the next crack pot band wagon?
If you do not understand that this sort of violence happens daily south of our border then you don't understand the problem and any further explanation would be pointless.
24 posted on 10/23/2010 7:54:41 AM PDT by BigSkyDream
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To: BigSkyDream

I want to know what happend period. Not what someone is saying happend. When the investigations complete if ever and an official position is rendered then I’ll accept that.

Don’t get your drawers in a wad just become some people are skeptical and want to see the official verdict. There are generally more than one side to a story until it gets sorted out.


25 posted on 10/23/2010 8:28:50 AM PDT by deport (TEXAS -- Early Voting begins OCT. 18, 2010 (vote early and often)
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To: deport

Everyone here seems eager to jump to conclusions that the wife did it or they have it planned to scam the insurance companies and disappear -— so don’t saddle any tall horses of righteousness of wanting to know the facts when the fact is the investigation is closed by the Mexicans and our State department is to busy right now busy suing the state of Arizona to do anything other than ignore it because public sentiment is leaning towards bullshit conspiracies like mentioned above.


26 posted on 10/23/2010 11:54:18 AM PDT by BigSkyDream
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