"Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God"
Posted on 01/06/2011 7:59:33 AM PST by poetbdk
Joan of Arc was the greatest freedom fighter in history and today is the 599th anniversary of her birth.
To celebrate Joan of Arc's birthday I have a speical page set up containing actual quotes from her contemporaries at: http://www.maidofheaven.com/joanofarc_birthday.asp
She is a highly admirable woman, and her actions and the events surrounding her make her (IMHO) more likely to have been touched by the Hand of God to be an instrument of HIS will than just about ANYONE else from that time forward who made that claim.
I highly recommend Mark Twain's book on the subject. “Maid of Heaven”.
This is Breaking News?
Really??
What freedom? She just preferred one tyrant over another.
My apologies for the mis-ID.
More than a freedom fighter, Joan of Arc’s life is perhaps the best documented example of divine intervention in all of history.
Two separate lengthy trials examined her miraculous life in scrupulous, rigorous detail.
Mark Twain’s book about her was his favorite and the one he devoted over a decade of his life to produce. Even the agnostic Twain was given great pause by the clear evidence of God’s hand in Joan’s life.
Twain’s magnificent book on the incredible life of Saint Joan is required reading. Nothing less.
She was a sister who really cooked.
Ummm, not only was she not the greatest freedom fighter in history, she wasn’t even the greatest French freedom fighter in history.
She "preferred" God.
"Let us kill the English. Their concept of individual rights could undermine the power of our beloved tyrant!"
ML/NJ
The same could be paraphrased to describe our Founding Fathers:
Fighting for “freedom” to be eventually ruled by home-grown autocrats instead of an English autocrat...
Maybe but the net result is her country was still ruled by a tyrant.
Our Founding Fathers fought for ACTUAL freedom, to shape a Free Republic where men were governed under a system that recognized the natural rights of man and government based upon the consent of the governed.
No leader of America from George Washington onward could correctly be called an autocrat. They were elected for a defined term to exercise defined Constitutional powers that were limited and enumerated.
There has been a trend TOWARDS autocracy, with Presidents doing through regulation what they could not through legislation; but that is hardly the fault of our Founding Fathers - but a lack of courage on the part of our Congress and the SCOTUS and the States to utilize the Constitution to keep the Presidency in check.
What is with all the anti-American garbage on FR lately?
Agree with the Founding Fathers about men's natural rights to be free and you are a naive idealist?
The Constitution is archaic and we should admire those more modern Constitutions of the Scandinavians?
Now the Founding Fathers were just fighting for the freedom to be ruled by a “home-grown” autocrat?
Disgusting!
Joan is my patron saint. I have never been happy with her story—I felt God should have swooped down and saved her and thrown her persecutors into the fire instead. However, mine is not to question the ways of the Lord anymore. I have to admit I do not understand His mysterious ways.
So you prefer foreign rule to that by people of your own country then? Well you should be real happy with our government here in the US today.
"“A Republic, if you can keep it.” (which we have not kept well)
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
A nineteen year old girl consumed by fire is a bit hard to take, isn’t it? For me, that has always been the most harrowing aspect of the remarkable life: A devoted, unquestioning servant of God, ending her life in unspeakable pain. God’s earthly treatment of His martyrs is indeed hard to fathom.
However, some of the eyewitness accounts seem to suggest at least, that she was spared some torment, as she seemed MOST fixated on grasping a crucifix held up to her by onlookers, as she died.
It betrays an utter ignorance to the causes of the Revolution, and the current of thought present in America at that time.
No, the American Revolutionary soldier truly was fighting for freedom from tyranny in a way that Joan of Arc wouldn't have had a concept of.
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