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WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST
Reaganite Republican ^ | January 26, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 01/26/2011 5:57:29 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

Hawai'i election official's sworn affadavit: 
"No Obama birth certificate exists"


ALL Americans who support our nation's Constitution and election laws must now ask: WHERE IS IT? As the Obama birth certificate controversy drags-on, any unbiased observer could tell you that events are strengthening the birthers' case by the day... not the other way around.

Oczam's razor theory dictates that if they can't find it... there must not be one. This would also provide the most viable explanation for why Obama has spent almost $2M fighting the claims in court. And to since it's a principle requirement for presidential eligibility... would someone please tell me WHY the burden of proof is on us

How'd this guy even get a passport without a long-form birth certificate, anyway...

"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), "I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate." 

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government." 

Tim Adams
Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health. "My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady." 

Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961." 

"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."


The debate has been recently been amplified by Hawaii's weird hippy Governor Neil Abercrombie -a far-Left freak who was previously a member of the US House Progressive Caucus and a personal friend and college classmate of both of Obama's parents. Abercrombie  made an ill-advised claim during his 2010 gubernatorial campaign that he would soon put a rest to all this, stating he was on a  "mission" to "quell" the birthers- as the polemic has "implications for 2012 that we simply cannot have."

But there is no Obama birth certificate... there never was.  So now he's hiding behind Hawaii's state AG, who says there is a privacy law that prohibits Abercrombie from doing as he promised (unless Obama gave him permission, of course):

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

“There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. 

“Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.” 

Conspirators! That's rich- but condescension and slander coming from nervous Dems does little to re-assure thinking persons that this man is acutally qualified to be US President: on the contrary, this defensive, diversionary behavior speaks volumes. Clearly those propping up this Trojan Horse of a president have nothing left but mocking the inquisitors- but as Margaret Thatcher once said: "... if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." And indeed they do not-


Delving a little farther back, Obama even admitted himself that he wasn't qualified for the presidency in the 2004 Keyes-Obama Senate campaign debate, but the video of this was scrubbed from YouTube, according to Good Ole Boy at RealAmericanPolitics

Keyes caught him off guard... and Obama spilled:

I watched the entire first and second debates.  I distinctly remember that I had never heard of Obama; my interest was in seeing what Keyes said about the pro-life issue and school vouchers.

At one point in the second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, “You are not even a natural born citizen!”
To which Obama immediately replied, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.”

At the end of the airing of the second debate, the C-Span host noted, as he read from a single sheet of paper, placed before him, that the Obama Campaign had contacted them and requested them to point out to their viewers that Obama’s response here should not be understood as a denial that he is a natural born citizen, only that Keyes’ accusation had nothing to do with the qualifications of office of a U.S. Senator...

Today... with even Chris Matthews saying "why not just put it out?"- I unapologetically throw my hat in with the birthers... time to cough it up or step-down, Barry. Even is some obscure court ruling keeps Obama in office... this man must not be allowed to run for re-election in 2012. 

And when the day comes when we remove this tumor from the neck of the American eagle... Obama and his accomplices must be punished harshly for not just violation of oath, but the myriad crimes committed in covering-up lack of qualification for US president, up to and including perjury. And that means the entire Obama campaign team, lawyers, and most of the DNC... you're all going to pay dearly for this one.

Get on the stick, GOP congressman... 
where's the subpoenas? 

The survival of American democracy demands justice- and so do we.
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KEYWORDS: abercrombie; barry; birthcertificate; birthers; certificate; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama; soetoro
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To: rolling_stone

Honolulu most likely. Maybe Chicago, maybe another place he lived. But I am betting it might have been done close to the time he decided to run for St. Senate in Il.


241 posted on 01/27/2011 10:02:39 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: David

See post 194... its a nut buster.


242 posted on 01/27/2011 10:03:42 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Beckwith

The constant misspellings are another strange thing.

I e-mailed OIP Director Takase once to ask what exact name the HDOH is referring to when they say “President Obama”, explaining how misspellings and alternate name and initial combinations have obscured the existence of certain records. I got back a lecture about how “President” is an honorary title, blah, blah, blah.

Obfuscation.

I sent the HDOH a request for a listing of any index data they have for Obama, Dunham, Soetoro, Sutoro, etc. They implied that they can only search for one unique name and one unique vital event at a time so they wanted me to list all the combinations, which I did. I said I couldn’t imagine them not having the ability to do a string search, like Google.

Shortly after that they changed their web page to say that it would be $7.50 for every individual search they do - full name and vital event.

I typed out a word and then decided to delete it. I need to watch my mouth.

When I called them on the illegality of their charging for index records without going through the full rule-changing procedure as required by law, they tried for a while to argue with me and then the Ombudsman’s Office apparently got ahold of them and told them they couldn’t do that. So now they require snail mail instead and say they MIGHT charge a fee. And they mysteriously “didn’t receive” requests unless you send it with delivery confirmation.

Sandbagging and gaslighting.

So I never did get my answer regarding what records they have for somebody with a last name of Soetoro or Sutoro.


243 posted on 01/27/2011 10:08:59 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Reaganite Republican

My belief is rules are rules. The Constitution cannot continue to be ignored, else it gives justification for ignoring other provisions, eg the 10th Amendment.

Furthermore, letting liberals continue on with this charade just enourages them more. Voter fraud is rampant in Democratic strongholds. They don’t care about integrity of the process. It’s always about them. Don’t cut them, their programs, steal from others to give to them. You don’t give them one inch, ever, never. They are childish brats and can’t be trusted with anything, so don’t give in in the first place.


244 posted on 01/27/2011 10:11:09 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (The Rodney King Riots: Courtesy of ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN)
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To: curiosity

You didn’t read post 194 did you?

Obama created the Birther Movement because he needed a smoke screen for his Immigration status. His adoption by Lolo changed his citizenship, and it is one that Obama has used to travel under as an adult. At BEST he is a Naturalized citizen. This is what the entire birther mockery bs is all about, covering this one simple issue.


245 posted on 01/27/2011 10:11:15 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: curiosity

I’m not going to waste my time discussing with you. I’ve made my points.


246 posted on 01/27/2011 10:13:01 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

THey did that to me too when I order a copy of my long form. They “lost” it. I resent it with return reciept requested and got the postcard back. They STILL tried to say they didn’t get it, but I had the proof. Thats how I eventually ended up talking with Onaka’s secretary, and Onaka.


247 posted on 01/27/2011 10:15:46 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: butterdezillion
I’m not going to waste my time discussing with you. I’ve made my points.

No, you've made a lot of assertions that you can't support. It's really too bad that you think the provision of supporting evidence is somehow a "waste of time."

248 posted on 01/27/2011 10:18:53 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity; butterdezillion

Thus far she has produced about 100,000 times more evidence in support of her beliefs than you have in trying to prove her wrong. All your naysaying anounts to the braying of a donkey in the wild.

Sorry curiosity, but you best drop it now. You lost this round badly.


249 posted on 01/27/2011 10:22:00 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae
Obama created the Birther Movement because he needed a smoke screen for his Immigration status. His adoption by Lolo changed his citizenship,

Sigh. Not the adoption candard again. This one was debunked more than two years ago. There's no evidence he was adopted, and even if he were, it wouldn't have caused him to lose his citizenship.

There neither is, nor was at the time, any provision under US immigration law under which a US citizen child loses his citizenship due to adoption by a foreigner. Period.

and it is one that Obama has used to travel under as an adult.

An allegation for which there is exactly zero evidence.

250 posted on 01/27/2011 10:22:34 AM PST by curiosity
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To: Danae

I ordered a document that cost $20. By the time the Hawaii government (not the HDOH in this case) was done with me I had spent $50 trying to get that record. That’s what we’re dealing with.


251 posted on 01/27/2011 10:26:35 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: curiosity

What? Did you miss the information presented in the Soetoro Divorce?

Dude, you are missing a LOT of information. A whole lot.

When Obama was adopted, his real father became Lolo, and he inherited his citizenship from Lolo. Thats Hawaiian law, that is why they seal records.

You are now coming off both half cocked and ignorant.


252 posted on 01/27/2011 10:33:13 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: butterdezillion

Yep, I paid a total of 27 bucks for my 10$ Long form.

Mahalo! /sarc


253 posted on 01/27/2011 10:34:09 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Reaganite Republican
My belief is that there is no birth certificate because Zero was born "at home" and the info was not filed with the Department of Records. Instead, granny called in the birth announcement to the local newspapers instead.

In 1961, unlike today, an unwed white teenage girl having a black bastard baby was horribly scorned and embarrassing to the family. Out of wedlock was bad enough back then, but mixed race made it necessary for the family to keep it hushed up.

Another thing, if there was a birth certificate, the father's race would NOT have been written as "African". That is obviously the mistake of some young latter-day leftist politically-correct idiot creating a fraudulent document.

254 posted on 01/27/2011 10:45:07 AM PST by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps)
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To: null and void

Here’s my followup on Abercrombie... a Soviet sponsored 5th columnist if ever there was one

And did you know Obama’s parents met in RUSSIAN class...?

What kind of people took Russian in 1960?

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2011/01/who-is-useful-doofus-neil-abercrombie.html


255 posted on 01/27/2011 10:51:32 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

People who wanted to work in diplomatic circles or International Politics.


256 posted on 01/27/2011 10:57:08 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: GGMac
We know that Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

I would appreciate a source/link for this assertion.


257 posted on 01/27/2011 11:00:39 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

I think it is in the Soetoro Divorce records. I think it might be an inferred deduction. Barry had to be an Indonesian Citizen to go to school. He would have needed a pasport or Birth Certificate to prove that to be the case. Sometimes in solving X + Y = 100 You know x= 43, so Y HAS to = 57.

Once this is understood... it gets a lot harder to debunk it.

The ONLY thing covering Obama now is his refusal, which of course also points to his guilt.

You are right to ask for documentary information. The better its documented, the harder it is going to be to avoid public pressure to resign.


258 posted on 01/27/2011 11:12:13 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: GGMac

“IF our little Barry was truly born in a Honolulu hospital there was a long form, official with raised seal, signed by attending physician certificate of birth - and it was filed in the normal manner at the Department of Health. Where it remained - UNTIL BARRY WAS ADOPTED BY LOLO SOETORO.”

1.) What would his name be on the new long form Birth Certificate?

2.) Why was there no index data for Barry Soetoro at the HDOH?

3. Was there any index data for Lolo Soetoro/Soebarkah etc.?

4.) As Danae suggested, when Stanely-Ann divorced Lolo, wouldn’t his original ‘vital records’ be unsealed?

5.) If Barry had no records of his birth in Hawaii prior to the adoption, why would Lolo go through the legal mumbo jumbo of adoption in Hawaii?


259 posted on 01/27/2011 11:12:38 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: GGMac

Re: ...the boy was named “for” Barack Obama of Kenya.

“Senior” spelled his name “Barak.”

http://cambodiana.org/MainreasonsofmysupportofObama.aspx
Cursor down to photos — “Reminiscenses”

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/img829.jpg
Problems Facing Our Socialism

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_eastafrica.html
Cursor down to “Authors”


260 posted on 01/27/2011 11:20:05 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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