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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; Natural Born 54

I find your Anna Obama story to strain all credulity.

Her classmates have attested that they saw her at a Labor Day weekend gathering on Mercer Island in 1961 where she told stories of her childbirth and (allegedly) her failed attempt to get out of Kenya before the baby was born. The statements of the babysitter was correct in many details. There are specific instances of her telling acquaintances that she would be unable to go to Cambridge with her husband because (allegedly) his scholarship wouldn’t cover it. There are scores of relatives in Kenya who swear that they are related to Obama via Brack Senior and Stanley Ann. His second half-white child was also born in Kenya, so that seems to be the MO with his births. There is the testimony of the female missionary who ran into Stanley Ann in the airport unable to get on a flight to the states.

We have Freeper Natural Born 54 who has extensively examined records and photographs relating to Stanley Ann’s Seattle residence. We also have Jerome Corsi (not the best source, mind you) verifying many of these items.

Clearly, a child was born around August of 1961, and that child stayed at the side of Stanley Ann for at least the next 5 plus years in Seattle and in Hawaii. The belief that there is an “Anna Obama” who may be the mother of Barack jr, stretches all credulity, in my opinion.


119 posted on 04/12/2011 3:57:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader; Fred Nerks; little jeremiah; mojitojoe; Rushmore Rocks; bitt; Candor7; azishot; ...
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Well, well.

I think you protesteth too much.

Pinging to a few... apparently we have a 'situation' here.

122 posted on 04/12/2011 4:32:32 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Fractal Trader; LucyT
Clearly, a child was born around August of 1961, and that child stayed at the side of Stanley Ann for at least the next 5 plus years in Seattle and in Hawaii. The belief that there is an “Anna Obama” who may be the mother of Barack jr, stretches all credulity, in my opinion.

IF there is a birth certificate that shows the parents as Stanley Ann Dunham and Barak Hussein Obama, with the birthdate of August 4, 1961, bearing the certificate number as shown by factcheck...then he's got nothing to worry about.

HAS HE?

123 posted on 04/12/2011 4:35:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fractal Trader
Her classmates have attested that they saw her at a Labor Day weekend gathering on Mercer Island in 1961 where she told stories of her childbirth and (allegedly) her failed attempt to get out of Kenya before the baby was born... There is the testimony of the female missionary who ran into Stanley Ann in the airport unable to get on a flight to the states.

When did I miss this? Is the Labor Day gathering and the airport thing documented? Links anyone?

127 posted on 04/12/2011 4:58:08 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Fractal Trader; LucyT; Fred Nerks
Joseph Toutonghi was born on April 2, 1932 in Cairo, Egypt and emigrated to the U.S. on the ship "Vulcania" on June 12, 1946. He married Mary Jean Zolin (the babysitter) on November 12, 1955 in Los Angeles. Their first daughter Mary Toutonghi was born and died on August 23, 1956 in Los Angeles. Gabrielle Marie was born on July 6, 1959. Michael Joseph (former Vice-President at Microsoft) was born on October 14, 1962. There were two more children before their divorce, and his second marriage to Ruta I. Mindenbergs of Latvia.

Mary Toutonghi "recalls as best she can the dates she babysat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959..."

Do the math.
132 posted on 04/12/2011 5:45:17 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fractal Trader

What I discovered after looking into the matter of the Capitol Hill residence neither supports nor disproves what Fred Nerks says about Anna Obama.

What I did learn is that there is every reason to think the Capitol Hill/Seattle part of the Obama biography is suspect, very suspect. The stories that refer to the residence conflict with one another as to the physical characteristics of the place and the photo is highly manipulated. Consequently, we should question everything about that Seattle interlude. If it were all true, there would be no need to engineer a photo and the archived property record because there would be a real photo and a real property record already available.

As for SAD’s classmates who commented on her to the press, I have much the same attitude toward them as I do the stories and published material covering the Capitol Hill residence. Some of those people who professed to be her classmates weren’t even in her class year for example and they said they were. Two different classmates told the same exact story about visiting her at the Capitol Hill apartment - the same tale was in two different stories and attributed to two different former students. And that brings up another angle to consider. How many of those comments from her classmates were true quotes from the stated classmates? Could a journalist or two have been a little too zealous in helping to fill in some blanks?

Point is, we weren’t told the truth about Stanley Ann on Mercer Island nor in Seattle. Until we do have the truth - I believe one day we will - isn’t it prudent to consider all theories including the one put forth by Fred Nerks?


140 posted on 04/12/2011 7:02:51 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Fractal Trader
I find your Anna Obama story to strain all credulity.

Her classmates have attested that they saw her at a Labor Day weekend gathering on Mercer Island in 1961 where she told stories of her childbirth and (allegedly) her failed attempt to get out of Kenya before the baby was born.


Where did you get this information from? Is it credible?

If so, then the documentation needs to get to Trump!
168 posted on 04/13/2011 12:20:49 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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