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Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory..how the WH is totally blowing the Bin Laden event
one man's opinion...

Posted on 05/03/2011 12:28:40 PM PDT by ken5050

I turned FOX on at 2PM..caught the WH press briefing, and then the first few minutes of Shep Smith's program. The presser was a disaster. Unmitigated. Here's a fearless predicition..within one or two more news cycles, we will hear that the SEALS killed an unarmed Bin Laden who was trying to surrender. Several journalists tiptoed around the question, and Shep actually "wondered" aloud how an "old man" could have resisted SEALS. And as I type, he actually asked if this operation was "illegal."


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: obltermination; osamabinladenkilled; shiftingstory
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To: Venturer

Looks like he was invited at the last minute, then told to sit in the little chair in the corner and shut up. There was no space for him at the adult table.


101 posted on 05/03/2011 2:09:44 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: hal ogen

Bronze that and I will ask Jimbo to rivet to the top of the FR homepage!

LLS


102 posted on 05/03/2011 2:10:28 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH! FUbo!)
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To: dead

LOL

I’d pay real money, or a tank full of gas, to watch them try and arrest SEAL Team 6.


103 posted on 05/03/2011 2:16:26 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

now that would be a reality show!


104 posted on 05/03/2011 2:17:37 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: AFreeBird

now that would be a reality show!


105 posted on 05/03/2011 2:17:49 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: ilgipper

closer, but still no cigar. :-)


106 posted on 05/03/2011 2:22:38 PM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: 21stCenturion
They are oblivious to their ignorance... they are of a like mindset... they slap each other on their backs and lie to each other about how great they all are... these are liars... they lie to us and themselves.

LLS

107 posted on 05/03/2011 2:24:42 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH! FUbo!)
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To: Yo-Yo

You know, it’s amazing how small Obama looks in that picture, like he’s the General’s aide sitting next to him.


108 posted on 05/03/2011 2:27:39 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Carley

One last thing. For a long time, Bin Laden and other terrorist leaders had accused the US of being a paper tiger. They said we didn’t have the guts to go after them. That we’d run at the first sign of blood. That we would just lob bombs and missiles from far away and didn’t have the stones to come and fight them on the ground.

They used examples going back to Reagan leaving Beirut in 1983 to bailing from Somalia in the early 90s to Clinton firing cruise missiles into Afghanistan in the late 90s, etc...

One thing this did was totally end that notion. Obama showed them that we will come after them. That it isn’t just about sending a few tomahawks from hundreds of miles off shore or dropping a few bombs from 30000 feet. We will find them, we will come to their home, and we will put a bullet in their head and watch them die...the old fashioned way. He showed them we’re not afraid to get down and dirty, to come after them on the ground. To hunt them down and finish them off. That they can’t hide from us. That Allah won’t be there to save them.

The optics and the impressions are a bit different when you go in and personally blow the guy away(and take his body to boot) vs blowing up some compound from the air and then saying “well, we found this fragment of hair and it’s him”. One leaves a much more lasting impression.

And while I don’t really care for Obama, I give him credit for recognizing that and ordering a mission that while filled with risks also promised rewards. He had confidence and faith in the men to carry it out and they did.


109 posted on 05/03/2011 2:29:27 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: PapaBear3625

Except we told the world that we had that data before it was even back in country to be analyzed.

So the people who were identified had plenty of time to get out of Dodge.

I remember one time Bush waited weeks before announcing a major capture, so they could use the information.

And it’s not like Obama wouldn’t have gotten the same credit if he waited a week to say Osama was dead, or if he would have gotten less credit if the information leaked out as rumor first. After all, he blew the announcement so we all know ahead of time anyway.


110 posted on 05/03/2011 2:30:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jeltz25

Panetta is insisting he gave the order to GO. Obama was not so sure.

We will never know the truth but a leopard does not change it’s spots and leading from behind is in Obamao’s DNA


111 posted on 05/03/2011 2:31:17 PM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: archivist007
Not the same story, a few similar points. Drudge's link on twitter said that the "WH denies giving kill order, SEALs made decision on the ground", not verbatim...hey, here's a VERY good blog report on the WH spinning...Bin Laden: Contradicting Stories Now Coming Out of White House!!
112 posted on 05/03/2011 2:32:09 PM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Carley

Perhaps. I’m just saying that going in on the ground was probably better than simply blowing up the compound for a number of reasons. Yes, it was more dangerous, but that’s why he have these forces, that’s why they train so hard, that’s what they’re there for.

So, the raid by the SEALS was a better option than an airstrike for a number of reasons.


113 posted on 05/03/2011 2:35:24 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Carley

Perhaps. I’m just saying that going in on the ground was probably better than simply blowing up the compound for a number of reasons. Yes, it was more dangerous, but that’s why he have these forces, that’s why they train so hard, that’s what they’re there for.

So, the raid by the SEALS was a better option than an airstrike for a number of reasons.


114 posted on 05/03/2011 2:39:18 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25

If the poll numbers agree with what you like, you believe them.
If the poll numbers disagree with your likes, you disbelieve them.——Ronald Reagan, 1985

“You don’t have to believe in reality. Reality works whether you believe in it or not. Fantasies do not work the same way.”
-—origin uncertain. Recently attributed to Pope Pious, Mark Twain, Newt Gingrich, ....


115 posted on 05/03/2011 2:44:18 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: Yaelle
Love me some Mark Steyn! ;-)

Truth is, they right themselves with all the ammo...er, COMPOST the current regime is shoveling at us!! I hope this sinks Obama faster than the Titanic sank after hitting that iceberg!! Even Joe Blow on the street is cocking one eye like the Rock, saying, "HUH?!?!"

Praying God exposes these losers for who and what they are...LIARS! You know it's bad when Alex Jones is making sense!! :-O
116 posted on 05/03/2011 2:51:26 PM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Godebert

Wow!


117 posted on 05/03/2011 2:53:52 PM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: dead

It was an illegal operation.
There is no way that its legal, under Pakistani law, for American troops to enter their country without a visa and shoot some old unarmed douchebag right in the face.

Now its up to the Pakistani police to arrest somebody.


Wasn’t it Eric Holder who stated that he would consider a indictment/arrest warrant from those marxists in Spain to hand over GWB and Cheney for war crimes?

Guess what Obama/Holder, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander!


118 posted on 05/03/2011 2:54:10 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: pillut48

right=write

Sheesh. Think I’ll keep my day job, Steyn’s job is in no danger from this soccer mom! LOL.


119 posted on 05/03/2011 3:01:03 PM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: JimRed

I agree.


120 posted on 05/03/2011 3:03:59 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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