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Shep's an idiot..we all know that. But the WH keeps on revising the details of the raid. Carney may well be the worst WH press officer ever. He has no understanding of military operations. He should not have done this brief, on the details..it should have come from the DoD.

The latest version is that there were 10 women and children in the upstairs room, along with OBL..

The pictures should have been released at the same time that the President spoke Sunday night. There woudl ahve been a few gasps, but in the overall euphoria of killing the bastard, it would have died down by now. Instead, it is now the central issue.

The administration is full of incompetent idiots. They will end up making a martyr of Bin Laden in the Muslim world.

Amid all the stories about how the enhanced interrogation techniques led to the information about OBL whereabouts, Carney was asked if Obama was still opposed to them. "Absolutely" was the reply. Idiot.

Remember, it was Eric Holder who early on wanted to indict CIA interrogators. Now, he's probably salivating at the idea of harpooning a SEAL.

This is going to get worse..far worse..

1 posted on 05/03/2011 12:28:44 PM PDT by ken5050
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If Holder/Obama went after a Seal who shot OBL, it would literally be the end of this presidency. Holder would be run our on rails, and OBama would sink so low in the polls, Hillary would e in the race within 48 hours. That would be the biggest PR disaster in the history of the Whte House.


2 posted on 05/03/2011 12:31:56 PM PDT by ilgipper
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And as I type, he actually asked if this operation was "illegal."

Probably because Judge Napolitano is on the warpath about it. Last night on Freedom Watch he detailed three situations under which the president can order someone killed. Insisted that the bin Laden killing did not meet any of them.

Reality, of course, is that no one cares if it was unlawful.

3 posted on 05/03/2011 12:32:27 PM PDT by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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If Holder/Obama went after a Seal who shot OBL, it would literally be the end of this presidency. Holder would be run out on rails, and Obama would sink so low in the polls, Hillary would be in the race within 48 hours. That would be the biggest PR disaster in the history of the Whte House.


4 posted on 05/03/2011 12:32:27 PM PDT by ilgipper
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"This is going to get worse..far worse.."

I wouldn't doubt it. Think of the most stupid thing that an administration can do, and this administration will do it.

Also, I was reminded of how stupid this administration was when I filled my tank this morning, costing me more than I have ever paid...and that's just me.

5 posted on 05/03/2011 12:33:01 PM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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“Now, he’s probably salivating at the idea of harpooning a SEAL.”

He may be. But there were lawyers in that room watching it unfold. Doing anything to the SEALS would certainly destroy any bump in numbers Obama gets from this, and the Dem. leadership wouldn’t allow it.


6 posted on 05/03/2011 12:34:36 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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I’m still waiting for the required Environmental Impact Statement on the OBL body dump in the Arabian Sea....


8 posted on 05/03/2011 12:35:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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I have a picture supposedly of Bin Laden that was sent to me from a retired Army Chaplain friend. Can someone tell how to post it?


9 posted on 05/03/2011 12:36:21 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 81)
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Sure. This whole thing has been handled with tremendous incompetence. But that doesn’t matter, because the media are not about to close in on their Glorious Leader.

They’ll just make a few more snide comments asking why there isn’t more cheering coming from those evil right wing Tea Partiers, now that The One has personally disposed of Bin Ladin and done the job that Bush couldn’t do.

Or words to that effect.


12 posted on 05/03/2011 12:38:07 PM PDT by Cicero
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBdxvego1E


13 posted on 05/03/2011 12:38:28 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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Creating conspiracies and lies are more important to them.


16 posted on 05/03/2011 12:40:14 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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OBL shot in front of his 12 year old daughter.

The true story just keeps getting worse and worse.

Rather than drop a moab on the compound and then dig out bones or teeth for DNA confirmation he goes for the one way he can take credit.

Now he gets blame rather than credit. He risked our SEALs lives for his own glory.


19 posted on 05/03/2011 12:41:27 PM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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Incompetent idiots bump.


20 posted on 05/03/2011 12:41:58 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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The week after 9/11, Congress pass the following law, Authorization for Use of Military Force September 18, 2001 -- Public Law 107-40 [S. J. RES. 23]:
That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.
Osama's status falls under the jurisdiction of the above law. He is a declared enemy of the US, and was treated as a combatant.
22 posted on 05/03/2011 12:43:29 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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As usual, the SEALs show a helluva lot more competence than the politicians.


23 posted on 05/03/2011 12:43:48 PM PDT by Triton42
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Like something straight out of a Tom Clancy novel, the President, Vice President, Secretary of State, and other high level staff watched the raid live on television:

Now, if they watched it live, you know it was also recorded. When will those tapes be released?

25 posted on 05/03/2011 12:44:44 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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It was an illegal operation.

There is no way that its legal, under Pakistani law, for American troops to enter their country without a visa and shoot some old unarmed douchebag right in the face.

Now its up to the Pakistani police to arrest somebody.

27 posted on 05/03/2011 12:45:59 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Buraq is intentionally stringing us along and muddying the waters. It’s his favorite MO.


31 posted on 05/03/2011 12:48:19 PM PDT by thecabal (The Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules.)
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Shep actually "wondered" aloud how an "old man" could have resisted SEALS

Yes, an old man can resist even a Navy SEAL; all he has to do is reach for a firearm. How well can he do that? Even before the news, my answer would have been "not very well", and the report is that OBL proved my answer to be right.

There is nothing unlawful in that, except for the detail of our military invading a sovereign "allied" country. I don't think anyone wants to fuss about that. We should allow the Pakistani government to save face and pretend they didn't know OBL was hiding in the same neighborhood as half their senior officers, and they should allow us to save face and ignore the detail that we invaded them. At least in public, we forgive them for their error, and they forgive us for our rudeness.

34 posted on 05/03/2011 12:49:55 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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The thread got pulled, but an article stating that Panetta was actually the one who issued the kill order was up.

If this is true, Obama is probably looking for a way to not make himself seem ineffective. Best way to do that is throw the SEALs under the bus and make it seem like a rogue mission by a band of vigilante troops, that went without his approval.


38 posted on 05/03/2011 12:53:37 PM PDT by JenB987 (I'm still an American and 'til they take that away from me there's no day ruined. - El Rushbo)
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One or two news cycles? Honey, the WH isn’t even going to make it through THIS news cycle without retracting/reversing 180 degrees EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN RELEASED! So far, following this on twitter, I see that, OBL did NOT have a weapon, so he couldn’t have been in a firefight with Navy SEALS; OBL did NOT use a woman for a shield in that alleged un-firefight; the woman he did NOT use in the alleged un-firefight didn’t really die, it’s just a leg wound; Obama who claimed all the glory and responsibility for the whole operation and giving the team orders to KILL OBL, well, he really didn’t do that either, the Navy SEALS did it on their own initiative...holy cow, the spinning that is going on today coming out of the WH should change the direction the water flows in the northern hemisphere when you flush the toilet!! More spinning than ALL the tornados that have been documented across the USA in the past few weeks!! More spins than a million kindergarteners playing Candyland!! You get my drift!


44 posted on 05/03/2011 12:57:21 PM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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