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Vote Fraud and a Lesson from History
Ilinois Review ^ | May 29, 2011 A.D. | John F. Di Leo

Posted on 05/29/2011 3:12:26 PM PDT by jfd1776

What can today's patriots learn from Cato the Elder?

The year is 150 B.C. Cato the Elder has been a Roman senator for some forty years. He’s a good senator, and a heck of an orator. Old he may be, but he can’t retire; he has a mission: He must convince Rome to go to war with Carthage. Again.

There have already been two Punic Wars, and they have been taxing for the Senate and People of Rome. There are many reasons to go to war again, some very good, some bad. Carthage remains a rival on the seas, a rival in trade… and Carthage still engages in the horrible practice of feeding children to a furnace, as food for their satanic “god.” All this must stop. But the people don’t want war; only Cato does.

So Cato has made it his mission in life. Every speech he gives – on agriculture, on the budget, on taxes, on spending, on requisitions for the troops, on cobblestones for the roads, no matter the topic – he always ends the exact same way, with conviction: “…and furthermore… Carthage must be destroyed!”

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TOPICS: Education; Government; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: ballot; election; electionfraud; votefraud; voterfraud
To do the right thing when you finally have the majority is great. Thank Heaven for the recent advances in Wisconsin, Texas, Kansas, South Carolina...

To work for the right when you're in the minority, however, may feel unrewarding, doomed to failure. But it is not. And in fact, it is imperative.

1 posted on 05/29/2011 3:12:29 PM PDT by jfd1776
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To: jfd1776

If the Republican party in IL REALLY wanted to identify voter fraud, Some fraud reviews are relatively straightforward.

For example, many government agencies have instituted procedures to dead people receiving government benefits and checks.

These practices could be used on lists of voters in recent IL elections by a political party.

The results could be illumination. Or maybe “I know nothing” is the phrase of the day.


2 posted on 05/29/2011 4:09:09 PM PDT by ethel rascel (Lurk Mostly)
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To: jfd1776

Vote fraud is treason.

Convict a few perps and then hang’em in public on election day.


3 posted on 05/29/2011 4:12:26 PM PDT by seton89 (Aequinimitas per ignorantiam)
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To: ethel rascel

If the local elected officials are all corrupt, then it really won’t matter. If the local grand jury knows the extent of its powers AND if it investigates, then it might be able to do something.

As Juvenal wrote, “And who shall guard the guardians themselves?”


4 posted on 05/29/2011 4:12:54 PM PDT by Ken in Eastman (Those who ignore history are destined to vote Democrat)
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To: jfd1776; All
The photo ID card helps to a certain extent, but unless its use is limited electronically to one use in a single election, it is of limited value.

One aspect of voter fraud not mentioned is vote counting. How many recounts have we seen in close races where the outcome is obviously determined by the officials doing the counting? Take Coleman vs. Franken in Minnesota in 2008 as Exhibit A. Aside from electing or appointing honest election administrators, such as secretaries of state, what specific proposals do you have to deal with vote counting fraud?

5 posted on 05/29/2011 4:13:19 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ethel rascel

Similar things could be done in Philly, now that the Republicans in PA have a majority. In those districts with suspiciously high voting numbers, just take a random sampling and verify that the voter existed, and lived within the district at the time of the election. Any district with a significant number of fraudulent votes gets a bigger sample taken.


6 posted on 05/29/2011 4:13:29 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: jfd1776

Cartago delenda est!


7 posted on 05/29/2011 4:28:02 PM PDT by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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To: jfd1776
The most brazen voter fraud sits as a usurper in our White House! The man has genitals the size of Mount Rushmore!

While the Usurper posts **two** fake birth certificates every judge, legislator, governor, secretaries of state, electoral college, our so-called weenie “conservative” media, and ( worst of all) our highest military do nothing.

SHAME on them all! Of all of them I am most disappointed in the conservative media and the highest military. I thought the so-called “conservative” media were more than entertainers. And...I never thought that the officers of a third world banana republic would take their oath to defend the Constitution more seriously than ours. Gee! Silly me!

8 posted on 05/29/2011 4:31:33 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: PapaBear3625
In those districts with suspiciously high voting numbers, just take a random sampling and verify that the voter existed, and lived within the district at the time of the election. Any district with a significant number of fraudulent votes gets a bigger sample taken.

You mean like Detroit, where the voters out number the actual residents?

9 posted on 05/29/2011 4:32:03 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear; PapaBear3625
You two ursine members of the VRWC could not be suffering under a greater misapprehension. Let me lay it out for you fellow before you go out stealing campers' lunch boxes again. Much of the "vote fraud" claim is just racist.

You see, the American Negro was a slave in the colonies and the US for some 3 centuries. During that time, it safe to assume that 5 million persons were held in bondage, mostly in the South, but in Yankee-land as well. Now those people could not vote until passage of the 13th and 14th Amendments, and then it was only the men. There were literacy tests and poll-taxes in those days, which even further shrunk that number.

In today's urban areas where many of the descendants of those deprived the vote now live, they are encouraged to make up for three + centuries of vote-denial. It is hard work, but it can be done. Each must be issued an absentee ballot to be computerized and multiplied, each must also be conducted to multiple precincts. Each descendant must, in effect, be given 7 or 8 votes to the average bear's one! It will only take about 250 year of this vote pattern to even out the centuries of vote denial, factoring in population growth of course. E.G., there were about 4 million African Americans in the country in 1865, about 35 million today. Big job monitoring those who may attempt to vote Republican, catch them, and throw their votes out.(You may not know that law, being a bear and all, but although it was the Republican Party that was founded to free the slaves and did so at the cost of half-a-million KIA in the Civil War, today's Negro is required by tribal ethics, to vote Democrat) Not to worry, with increasing computer sophistication, many details like showing up, etc, can be handled remotely.

Although this is the easiest example, there ar many others. There's the Chicago tradition, Poles who were denied the US vote while they suffered under the cruel Czars get a make-up vote. Rather many, in fact. And then there are the Hispanics (last syllable: "Panic"). They are enthusiastic voters regardless of legal status in the country, indeed, whether they are alive, dead, or completely imaginary. (Virtual is the hip new word.) BTW, The dead, a truly selfless and devoted constituency are always ignored by the Republicans, who are only concerned with live rich people.

The Republicans show little creativity in this vote fraud detection stuff. They see no need to trouble themselves. After all, the votes that you two bears in the woods might see as "suspicious," amount to no more than 15-18% of the total cast overall;, and no more than 60-80% in those area into which no country-clubber would go anyway! Why worry? Gore and Kerry stole 5 big states, but see, they lost anyway!

Vote Fraud? Under control, baby. I.E., Democrat Party Control.

10 posted on 05/29/2011 5:37:22 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
An interesting and promising technique to identify vote fraudsters would be to match list of voters in suspect precincts with the Social Security Death Master.

For instance, there could be a lot of “hits” in Chicago.

11 posted on 05/29/2011 5:51:19 PM PDT by ethel rascel (Lurk Mostly)
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To: ethel rascel
In many states the voter rolls go way back before there was social security.

It would be a simple matter to simple give SS#s, in Baltimore for example,to those who have been active voters since 1789.

In California, Loretta Sanchez' expert vote creators and stealers were able to conjure up entire multi-generational families from thin air, complete with the requisite documentation, equip them with absentee ballots, house them at fictious addresses in the precincts where they needed the votes, (note plural) and proceeded vote the hell out of them.

In Chicago, Philly, and other more "traditional" crooked towns, the church van voters merely go from precinct to precinct voting in place of those who are deceased and still on the rolls, or who merely never show up.

End vote fraud? Easy. Voter photo ID, hard ballots. AND AN ABSOLUTE "DROP DEAD" DEADLINE. Also, there is very little oversight on absentee ballots, leading to double and triple registrations. IMHBOWO, "Fat and Lazy," is not a reason for an absentee ballot. Right now, if through some fluke a Republican wins by say, 1%, it is absolutely no problem for the Democrats to create another 3 or 4% out of the ether, if they are given the time.

Normal people, I.E. most suburban Republicans, are simply incredibly naive about vote fraud. It is massive and it is a true national disgrace.

12 posted on 05/29/2011 6:20:02 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: seton89

i’ve said that to people before.
and i am absolutely serious.
...there is no more basic fundamental, than one man one vote.

ALL depends on this. to rob another man of his vote, by committing vote fraud, IS the highest treason.
if ANYTHING should have the death penalty,
this is it, for a nation to survive.

...yet the GOP seems curiously uncaring, year after year,
in spite of massive evidence, across the USA, of serious systematic vote fraud.


13 posted on 05/29/2011 6:50:15 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: jfd1776

BTT


14 posted on 05/29/2011 9:13:42 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Kenny Bunk

Well said!

I was there when Sanchez stole the Congressional seat from Bob Dornan. In my previous posts I detailed exactly HOW they committed the fraud and some actions that can prevent it. I assume you have already read my short booklet on vote fraud and how to stop it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2621405/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2625281/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2615479/posts

We CAN make a difference when it comes to vote fraud.

The fight with the commies/leftists has been going on for generations. It will go on long after I am gone. Every election cycle I try to get smarter and preempt the fraud.


15 posted on 05/30/2011 9:35:00 AM PDT by darth
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