Posted on 08/13/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by chatter4
Thanks chatter4.
....and being pro-abortion and pro-gun control.
Just little things like that.
I’m torn between RP and MB at this point. bachmann has my heart, Paul my head.
>>>That is about the fifth time on this thread that you have made the claim that Ron Paul is a pro-life Republican. He may be personally pro-Life (and maybe a Houston Astros fan and possibly a stamp or coin collector), which is irrelevant. Ron Paul hides behind the 10th Amendment to avoid DOING anything about it.<<<
Lorainne, when you get time, ask so-called “BlackElk” the question, “What can Ron Paul do, as a single House member, to stop abortion?”. I’ll bet you get nothing but a dribble of incoherent nonsense. Ron Paul knows the only way to stop abortion, short of declaring himself dictator, is to appoint pro-life judges (if you don’t give a flip about the constitution), or return the power the states, as the constitution prescribes.
>>>The paleosurrenderman is also a rank fraud on spending by cramming each federal budget with Galveston pork projects, then voting against the Appropriations bill, and depending on the Nancy Pelosis and John Boehners to vote his pork through while he poses for “fiscal conservative” holy pictures.<<<
What this clown won’t tell you is that the concept of “Earmarking” the MSM and BlackElk project is a Hoax. This is the way is truly is:
The House passes a budget of so many dollars. That amount is all that will be spent, period. Then the house targets those dollars: so much for defense, so much for infrastructure, etc.. Whatever is left over is either “earmarked” by individual house and senate member (usually for projects in their districts), or it goes to the executive branch for the President to spend as he pleases.
Understand: Ron Paul earmarks as much as he can of the bloated budget to keep it out of the hands of Obama and his leftist thugs. Earmarks are transparent, but when Obama gets his dirty hands on it, he can spend it as he pleases. Also understand that Ron Paul wants all of the budget “earmarked” for transparency, and all to be constitutionally authorized.
In other words, BlackElk is either being deceitful, or he is ignorant of the budget/earmarking process. Either way, I would not pay him much attention.
>>>BlackElk wrote: While Ron Paul sees the 10th Amendment as banning federal prohibitions of abortion or sexual perversion posing as marriage while posing for holy pictures as a pro-lifer and pro-family guy (sucker bait for pro-lifers and pro-family folks), SCOTUS and the court system disagree with him or ignore his claim and keep cramming social revolution, abortion, perversion posing as marriage, and a cornucopia of other evils down our throats.<<<
Accordingn to BlackElk, Ron Paul should just march down to the White House, declare himself dictator, and ban abortion.
Otherwise, he is stuck with the hand he has been dealt, and that hand is,
“I, Ron Paul, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
If you cannot trust a man with his oath, you cannot trust him with anything. Thank God Ron Paul believes in the Oath he has taken.
>>>You deal with the system you have.<<<
Unless you are Ron Paul. Then you have to deal with BlackElk’s “system”, which is incomprehensible to all but BlackElk.
>>>On the 10th, Paulie wants us restrained by it and our enemies empowered by it. <<<
Let’s take a look at the 10th Amendment:
“The powers not delegated to the United States [federal government] by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
According to BlackElk, our enemies are the sovereign states and the people of the United States, because only the Federal Government is restrained (or constrained) by it.
BlackElk, does your state, Illinois, know that it is an enemy of the United States?
What a bunch of B.S. this clown spouts.
>>>I want a centralized government on foreign policy, trade, military policy and a bunch of other things. So did the Founders.<<<
That is true, except for the “bunch of other things” part. The Founders made it clear that the authorized powers of the federal government are few and defined. You can read those powers in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. All other powers this massive federal government has accumulated have been usurped from the people, which is TYRANNY.
Of course, BlackElk will never tell you that, because he is a big-government RINO. BlackElk name-drops the Founding Fathers from time to time to maintain credibility. So does the Left. For example, Bill Clinton claimed that the Democrat Party is the Party of Jefferson. He was not lying, well, not totally. It is the party of William Jefferson Clinton.
>>>Ron Paul is an airhead who appeals to the “I gotta be me” crowd and he is a dishonest airhead or the least mentally capable article in shoe leather in the entire American gummint. <<<
Have you noticed that BlackElk is always in the mood for name-calling? In this thread alone, Ron Paul is an “Airhead, a “Paulie”, “Little Twerp”, the “Galveston porkmeister” and “paleoPaulie”. That strategy is straight out of Saul Alinsky’s’ handbook, Rules For Radicals, the “bible” for Barrack Obama, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and other crazies on the far left.
Just trying to help :)
Some other Videos of Ron Paul
RON PAUL SLAPS DOWN 911 TRUTHER QUESTION DURING S.C DEBATE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhQ8xi312l8&feature=related
Ron Paul: Government can quarantine people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuB6SpwYrVg&feature=relmfu
Health care in America: Ron Paul vs. Howard Dean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvSEjimboKo&NR=1
Ron Paul Hits it out of the Park on CNN American Morning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU9rqYx5lRE&feature=related
Ron Paul 2012 Ron Paul drops TRUTH BOMB on Bill Maher 2 20 09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ZjgANOhlA&feature=related
Ron Paul on CNN After Being Excluded From FoxNews Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4unznqeiXU&NR=1
Ron Paul 2012 - Great Interview on D L Hughley 3-7-09 I hope he runs 2012!!! And WINS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkVUiaj4C24&NR=1
Ron Paul vs Bill O’Reilly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UNC1vtP0a0&NR=1
Ron Paul vs Hannity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh2sBKpLxpQ&NR=1
Ron Paul scares Sean Hanity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE6u2rpCSzE&feature=related
Bill Maher: “Ron Paul the only sane man at the CNBC debate”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_7NELg0wR8&feature=related
Ron Paul on Bill Maher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYZevkS9Hw&feature=related
Ron Paul vs McCain in SC Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00qUqEuA86Q&NR=1
John McCain stumped by Ron Paul 1-24-08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKO7BxNNhMk&feature=related
Ron Paul pwns a trick question in Debate 1-10-08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmoIetpgG6g&NR=1
Fox News anchor comes clean on Ron Paul bias.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do3ZtMJEwLw&NR=1
Ron Paul: FED evil; World ‘War Mongering’ Against Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l9UpptF5z4&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Ron Paul on the American Civil War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOE4Ip7In0&NR=1
Ron Paul Says Barack Obama is “Not a Socialist” - Calls Him “Corporatist” Instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSaQ7WPd_LM&feature=related
Ron Paul : Lincoln, a Communist (socialist)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HZsPZ_guyE&feature=related
Ron Paul Heroically Stands Up to Chris Matthews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpchEdtS0e4&feature=related
Ron Paul owns Stephen Baldwin in marijuana debate. \
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPuJQaIgJeg&feature=related
Ron Paul: The US Government’s Debt Can Never Be Repaid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWGs26QQBEw&NR=1
Ron Paul: The SEC is a Total Failure and Part of the Problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV_N6EXTW0w&NR=1
Ron Paul: They’re Warmongering Like It’s 2002!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QNx-QQ9knc&NR=1
Ron Paul: Another Crisis is Coming!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WodL9IJIN7Q&feature=related
Ron Paul 2012: Unmatched Intellect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWpICzxteMk&feature=related
Ron Paul- Socialism in a Libertarian society vs Libertarianism in a Socialist society
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21fi6mYjhKI&feature=related
Ron Paul was right! 1998-2002 predictions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNDvLRUevSo&feature=related
The Amazingly Accurate Predictions of Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Gfzgxh3ZQ&feature=related
Ron Paul debate question BANNED from Fox News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54WFoV-veCM&NR=1
Ron Paul 2012: A Libertarian Renaissance?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIt7dAFjk4&NR=1
Ron Paul: Suspend The Income Tax For 3-4 Years! (CNBC 1/2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPkQSk8Pn0I&NR=1
Ron Paul: America Is With Me On Foreign Policy (CNBC 2/2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Wcp58IJQU&NR=1
Ron Paul: Open the Federal Reserve’s Secret Archives!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncw39IADHa4&NR=1
Ron Paul Owns Donald Trump
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alfi7cm0qjw&feature=related
Ron Paul Questions Hillary on $1 Billion London Fortress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66QjFidpnsg&NR=1
Ron Paul on Electibility:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JId_kGKowfI&feature=related
Ron Paul on CNN after being excluded from Fox News debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4unznqei7XU&feature=related
Ron Paul Owns Michael Moore On Larry King Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiWyUxcVM04&feature=related
RON PAUL NAILS (UNAIRED) LARRY KING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxB6fwgRVkQ&feature=related
Ron Paul Rocks The View
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLEQ3p1t-d4&feature=related
Ron Paul Correctly Predicts Obama Lie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ2GWW5bitM&feature=related
1/6 Ron Paul 20/20 Banned ABC News Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6a9549ZeqQ&feature=related
2/6 Ron Paul 20/20 Banned ABC News Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1NDs4RMbHU&NR=1
3/6 Ron Paul 20/20 Banned ABC News Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tYcH1BeSc4&feature=related
4/6 Ron Paul 20/20 Banned ABC News Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRIK2lt7H4M&feature=related
5/6 Ron Paul 20/20 Banned ABC News Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5iXmAie4Xc&feature=related
6/6 Ron Paul 20/20 Banned ABC News Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hoiancRfxc&feature=related
Ron Paul on Lou Dobbs About NAU Super Highway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogRQYNZksoY
RON PAUL EXPOSED (IN HIS OWN WORDS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mz9pDGHBTo&feature=related
>>Evidence suggests he is an anti-semite.<<<
What evidence?
>>>So, where are the true conservatives?<<<
There are very few in the GOP. I believe our culture has been corrupted by foreign influence to the point that it would unrecognizable to traditional conservatives, and that modern day “conservatives” have adapted to that culture.
Gone are the days of Washington, when he wrote that we have the same religion, manners and customs (with slight shades of difference), and when he wrote that we should not be overly friendly to some nations and overly unfriendly to others.
>>>If this country ever really embraced reform, it would destroy my existing portfolio. But, I sleep well at night knowing that your opinion is shared by those who control the political process.
Once again, I must thank you for clarifying the issues. Nothing is worse than uncertainty - it makes for poor investment planning, and ultimately, a chitty, impoverished life.<<<
LOL. My wife and I have been investing using your strategy for years. Why bet on the dollar if all we are going to get is more of the same, no matter which party wins. Establishment candidates will destroy our financial system.
Rick Perry recently “adopted” Ron Paul’s anti-Fed Reserve postion, but Perry’s positions are like the wind.
>>>Curious as to what that evidence is. Because he would cut off foreign aid to all countries including Israel?<<<
There is no evidence. It is well-organized smear. Ron Paul doesn’t have a anti-semitic bone in his body.
>>>9/11 and Israel: he’s an ass, who’s [nearly] disqualified himself with his slimy insinuations.<<<
If you are insinuating that Ron Paul is a so-called 9/11 Truther, you are wrong. These are his own words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhQ8xi312l8&feature=related
>>>I really want to agree with you here, but I ask you this - if Ron Paul is supposed to be a Republican yet won’t even endorse the eventual nominee of his own party, what good is he?<<<
If the GOP nominates a true conservative, Ron Paul will support her/him. He would do that even considering the GOP establishment in Texas is attempting to destroy his political career via redistricting. His loyalty is to the constitution, unlike most Freepers, whose loyalty is to the Party.
For example, I will hold my nose and vote for the GOP nominee who is not a conservative, just to keep the more evil democrats out; therefore I do not have the integrity of Ron Paul. But I am beginning to believe Rush was right when he stated, maybe tongue in cheek, that (paraphrasing) he would prefer Obama over McCain so the democrats would get the blame (that is, he believed McCain would do a lot of damage, as well). Turns out he was right, even though I feel certain he voted for McCain.
Dr. Paul doesn’t have a hateful cell in his body.
>>>As opposed to pork loving career politicians like Paul?<<<
That is a mischaracterization. Ron Paul has not voted for a budget in over a decade, and he only earmarks to keep the money from ending up hands of the executive branch.
Maybe you do not understand the Budgeting/Earmarking process. That would be a good topic for a thread, since so many Freepers mischaracterize it.
Remember this. The level of spending is set by the party leadership before a single amendment is allowed. Then it is targeted: some to defense; some to infrastructure; some is earmarked to individual districts; etc.. Whatever is leftover goes go the executive branch to spend as it pleases. By earmarking as much as he can, Ron Paul is able to keep at least some of the money out of the hands of Obama and his thugs. Paul’s earmarking is, under Obama, an act of patriotism.
Paul seeks to reduce the budget to constitutionally authorized spending only. Until that happens he is stuck with the massive spending of the status quo, of late the GOP leadership.
>>>Cut and run would have backed the appeasement policies of Nevile Chamberlain, who did not want to see the dangers of Germany, not the policies of Winston Churchill who beat back Germany.<<<
Are you implying Ron Paul would give away Czechoslovakia? That’s ridiculous. Ron Paul believes in a strong national defense, unlike Nevile who was stuck with a weak defense when confronted by Hitler’s demands.
>>>He doesn’t, then name something, ANYTHING he has ever actually done, other than talk. Other than acquiring as many earmarks as possible.<<<
That is a mischaracterization. Ron Paul has not voted for a budget in over a decade, and he only earmarks to keep the money from ending up hands of the executive branch.
See post #256 for more understanding of the Budget/Earmark process.
>>>if we’re going to go to war then dammit get in there, do what needs to be done, win it and get out.<<<
That is Ron Paul’s position. That was also George Bush’s and the Republican Party’s position until 9/11. They we adopted “Nation Building”, which Bush campaigned against.
>>>As as result, relying on the doctrine of MAD in our relations with [Islamists] is...well, quite mad.<<<
Not if our version of M.A.D. is to destroy and pollute all of their so-called “holy sites”, beginning with Mecca.
BTW, have you heard of the new activist group D.A.M.?
Mothers Against Dyslexia.
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