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Some of You Tea Party Folk Think Rick Perry’s the Answer?
C4P ^ | August 28, 2011 | Marc America

Posted on 08/28/2011 10:01:59 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan

If you’re a Tea Party member, or you have significant sympathies with them, I’d caution you against climbing aboard Rick Perry’s TransTexasCatastrophe. The Media is doing everything possible to paint this guy as a bronc-busting, cattle-roping, Texan, but in truth, there are more than a few things you ought to know about him. He’s no friend to individual rights, except in an election season, and he’s not really the trend-setter he’d have you believe. His record on jobs isn’t actually so swift as he’d have you believe, and he’s got less in common with the average Texan than he does with the Wall Street types with whom he prefers to consort. He’s no friend of Main Street, and he’s certainly no friend to real entrepreneurs, and for all his posturing as one of us, he isn’t, and it’s been quite plain. Those of you from outside Texas can be forgiven for mistaking Perry for a conservative. It’s assumed because he’s a Republican, and he’s from Texas, he must be. Let me now explain a bit of why this isn’t the case.

Friday I heard the increasingly estimable Mark Davis claim that you shouldn’t mind that Perry converted from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party because, as he points out, Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat too. Of course, this is a lie by omission, because what Davis doesn’t mention is that it was a long stretch of years between Reagan’s conversion and his arrival in California electoral politics. This isn’t the case with Rick Perry. He was Al Gore’s Texas Campaign Manager in 1988, and following the loss, immediately reversed course and ran as a Republican. I don’t know about you, but despite Davis’ rather disingenuous interpretation of Reagan’s conversion, painting it as just alike, I’m inclined to believe he left some details out intentionally.

Rick Perry has been a regular guest on Davis’ show on WBAP in the D/FW area for years, and to consider Davis anything like an objective or unbiased voice in this stretches all credulity. Frankly, I hope Limbaugh finds somebody else to be a regular fill in, because Davis is clearly in the tank for Perry, and it runs against Limbaugh’s general premise that he will take no position in a Republican primary, except in general terms on behalf of conservatism.

You may have heard some of Perry’s more recent statements about conditions along the Texas border with Mexico, and you might be inclined to believe Mr. Perry thinks more should be done. He even tried to repair his credibility on the issue by being broadcast on a live feed from a base of operations near the border for an interview on Greta Van Susteren’s show. If you believe that stage-managed bit of theater, I’m inclined to let you know right now that he’s relatively no more conservative in real terms than George Bush, which is to say on the matter of his statist, globalist reflexes, he’s no conservative at all. I’d hate it if anybody else broke the news to you, because I believe bad news is best delivered by a friend. Check out the following video for where Rick Perry really stands on issues of the border:

I realize there’s a tendency to overstate things in the name of supporting one’s position, but it’s really no exaggeration to suggest that Perry isn’t really very close in his thinking to Tea Party Members, not when measured against what he’s been saying since October 2010, but in what he has said all along throughout his career. He’s taken money and support from La Raza, ACORN, and other groups that advocate spending tax-payer dollars for dubious programs and projects.

He’s also a crony-capitalist. If you’re like me, that’s simply something you can’t abide. I love the free market, but Governor Perry’s revolving door between his staff and corporate boardrooms is a well-established phenomenon, and frankly, if you buy into his nonsense, he’s going to wind up exploiting your good intentions too. Companies like Merck and Cintra are more his style, and his staff has reflected this over the years of his gubernatorial reign.

You’ve undoubtedly heard about the Gardasil flap, and likely been willing to dismiss it as a fluke. That would be a serious and potentially tragic mistake. The most ridiculously egregious thing he may have done in his tenure as Governor of Texas was the proposed TransTexas Corridor. You may have heard of it, but may not have any details, so let me expound on that for a moment or two. This was the project that first enlightened me to Perry’s big government answers to all things. The upshot is this: It was to be a vast network of toll roads, but more, it would have included some form of light and heavy rail, pipelines, and all manner of things. On the surface, this might sound attractive, but as with any such project, the devil lies in the details.

The plan included 4400 linear miles of a toll road network, running parallel in many cases to existing Highways and Interstates already in existence. The corridor’s right of way was to be a full 1/4 mile wide. Simple math tells you that even ignoring junctions and interchanges, this would have consumed 1100 square miles of Texas’ territory. You might argue that while it’s a lot of land, Texas is a big state. That’s all well and good if the state already owns the land, but since it doesn’t, it was going to acquire it by use of eminent domain. Again, you might argue that building roads is one function for which eminent domain ought to apply, but once you look at the rules to be applied to this project, you might well conclude otherwise. Rather than basing their offers to property owners on free market value, they instead intended to limit it to “fair market value” as determined by a panel of cronies they would gin up for the chore.

This project actually proposed bisecting county and farm roads, and even property, dead-ending what are fairly important thoroughfares for the communities they serve. More, it would have bisected school districts and even towns along its path. Again, you might think that impossible until you understand that this was to be a closed system with few exits or on-ramps, only permitting access at major Highway and Interstate junctions. This threatened to destroy many rural communities, and they rose up against it. Once the details became clear to the public, it was quickly sent back for re-work, and eventually dumped.

Here were the things they didn’t advertise, but you need to know. It was supposed to be operate by a concessionaire, Cintra, for a period of 50 years. It was going to employ tolls of roughly $0.26 per mile. A geographical understanding of the scale of Texas immediately prompts the question: “Who on Earth would voluntarily pay to enter a closed-system roadway at that cost over the huge distances in Texas, when a free parallel alternative is just a few miles away in the form of an Interstate, or Highway?” Good question, and the answer is: Almost nobody. So how did they intend to make this work? In 2004,TxDOT applied to the USDOT for a waiver so that they could charge a toll on the existing I-35. The first leg of the proposed TTC system was called TTC-35, the leg that would run from Laredo to an undetermined point on the Oklahoma border. In other words, it was a corridor to nowhere, but in order to get you to use it, they were going to toll the free Interstate and let it fall into disrepair.

Opponents at the time argued that the existing I-35 corridor could be widened, and this was met with a dismissive rejection by Perry’s Transportation Commission. They said it couldn’t be done in a cost-efficient way. Your confusion at this statement matches that of the average Texan who realizes that this couldn’t possibly be true. How hard is it to add a few lanes here and there? Yes, you’ll have some eminent domain issues, but nothing on the scale of what the TTC proposed.

They also promised it would promote economic development, but what they kept concealed for a while, until they no longer could do so under the law, was that because it was a closed system, Cintra, the corporation from Spain that would build and operate it, would also have exclusive rights to all concessions along its length. More, due to the limitations on exits and on-ramps, it could never be shown how this colossal highway system would provide any sort of economic boon to anybody, because you wouldn’t be able to access most smaller towns from along its length. I’m sure you’ll agree with me that the fact that one of Perry’s top staffers was a former Cintra VP, and the fact that one of his own staffers had gone on to work for Cintra had absolutely nothing to do with Perry’s TTC plans. Right?

Ladies and gentlemen, if you’ve fallen prey to the hype about Perry, you may be forgiven, particularly if you’re not from Texas. You’re not aware, as so many here, that Perry isn’t the fellow he’s now being portrayed to be. He’s not a friend to the Tea Party, despite his seeming 2010 conversion, because much like his conversion in 1989, this conversion also seems to be one of convenience. I will assure you, this is most definitely the case.

Perry likes to put on an act about his conservative credentials, and his sympathies with the Tea Party, but if the truth is told, he’s no more one of us than the man in the Moon. You might want to let your fellow conservatives and Tea Party patriots know it too: We’re being hustled again.

Looks tough shooting blanks



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To: The Bronze Titan

What’s more, he made the jump with Phil Gramm, and we see how that turned out (Gramm-Leach-Bliley: thanks for the economic collapse guys).


241 posted on 08/28/2011 2:09:25 PM PDT by icanhasbailout (Draft Napolitano 2012)
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To: icanhasbailout

Well, it is two words, and it depends on who is credited with starting it, because to some it was about the expanding debt/spending policies, then people started showing up with “Taxed Enough Already” posters, then it became about government intrusion in all aspects of life.


242 posted on 08/28/2011 2:12:01 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Marty62
Once you get that close (Gore) and you see the ignorance of the candidate as well as his hairbrained ideas, the only answer is to get the he** out of dodge (dummie party)
Nice try.

From the link:

11 years before Perry chaired Gore’s presidential campaign in Texas, in 1976, Gore held the first Congressional hearings on climate change. Gore’s reputation on environmental issues was so solidified by 1988 that the first President Bush took to the habit of calling him ozone man.
BTW, No matter how hard you try, Perry couldn't match a pussy pimple on Reagans ass.
243 posted on 08/28/2011 2:12:39 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Hootowl
-"Is Perry better than Obama? If so and he is the nominee, that’s good enough for me."

Sounds like a pretty low bar you're holding on to.

244 posted on 08/28/2011 2:12:51 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: icanhasbailout
Oh, so you are going to go all ad hominum on me now?
Is that all you got?

You are either incapable of seeing the truth,
or too proud to admit to your mistakes,
or you are a paid professional poster,
so, which one is it?

I do realize there is another option;
it is possible that you are just be a dumb ass,
but I have yet to make that determination.

Go ahead now,
this is the opportunity for you to tell everyone here
what a TRUE tea partier should think
and how a TRUE tea partier should vote.

[strong hint: you can't herd cats]
245 posted on 08/28/2011 2:13:14 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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To: icanhasbailout

Judge Napolitano wouldn’t get 10% in NY state.


246 posted on 08/28/2011 2:15:52 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: The Bronze Titan

well, i want to see what he has to say when questioned about some of his flip flops and questionable decisions.
right now, i like what i see but you know at this point Bill Clinton looks good. We survived Clinton’s, i doubt if we survive another Zero presidency.
Melissa


247 posted on 08/28/2011 2:16:19 PM PDT by mel
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To: P-Marlowe

Anything that tries to point out some concern about Perry is a “hit piece”. Oh, but wait, I see you’re not opposed to “vetting”, just so long as the “vetting” is all “positive”. I get it now.


248 posted on 08/28/2011 2:16:24 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan

You willing to throw the election to Obama because there’s something about Perry you don’t like? Maybe it’s a low bar, but I would vote for the local dogcatcher before I’d see Obama take the office again.


249 posted on 08/28/2011 2:17:11 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: rintense

Bump to read later


250 posted on 08/28/2011 2:20:09 PM PDT by Right Wingnut 2
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To: alicewonders
-"Okay, I’ll concede that point to you."

Good. There's still hope. Hang in there. It's going to be a fun ride. All the cars are not yet in the race.

251 posted on 08/28/2011 2:21:57 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: Georgia Girl 2
-"She hasn’t said she’s running and she hasn’t announced her candidacy."

GG, that's ok. I'm not in the least worried. If you really want a candidate you can trust, I can't think of anyone better to try to hold up their end of the bargain when they go up against the cronies of either party.

Hang in there and have faith. I'm not saying who you are going to ultimately throw your support for, but just wait and see who this is all going to play out soon. It's gonna be exciting to watch.

252 posted on 08/28/2011 2:25:47 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan; P-Marlowe
Oh, but wait, I see you’re not opposed to “vetting”

Give us a break. You're not vetting. You're a hatchet man. Plain and simple.

Or maybe you'd like to explain to us exactly what you're "vetting" when you post hateful DU-style cartoons you steal from left-wing websites?

253 posted on 08/28/2011 2:29:08 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Sory but the only propoganda around here is your brand of delusional Rick Perry Kool-Aid.


254 posted on 08/28/2011 2:42:03 PM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: Nervous Tick

Gasp google image search is the evilz.


255 posted on 08/28/2011 2:44:58 PM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: Raider Sam
GOP isn't going to win NY state anyway, that's not part of any realistic EV win set.

2010 Voting Map

Interactive 2012 Electoral Vote map

The GOP needs to flip the equivalent of five sizeable states. Based on the 2010 results, VA is pretty much a given. We need FL, it is hard to stop an Obama win without it - so this is where we need to be on closest fraud watch. Other major winnable states for 2012 based on 2010 results are OH, NC, IN, MI, PA. There are some smaller states that may be a factor, like MN, WI, NH, IA, WV), but by and large those seven states will be the battleground in the election.

I think Judge Nap would have an excellent shot at flipping many of those. This country, outside the parasitic large urban centers, has a huge mass of people who are totally and completely fed up with the way government takes everything it can from them and screws everything up and lies lies lies lies all the time about everything, a process I refer to as Sovietization.

Judge Nap is totally loyal to the people of the United States of America. You don't need to watch him much to understand this. The same cannot be taken as given for some other candidates, e.g. Perry championing a project designed to bypass the people of his own state in favor of providing a route facilitating foreign goods to enter the United States. He understands the concerns of regular middle-class people at their wits' end with the lack of economic opportunity and broken markets, the lies about unemployment and the lies about inflation.

And it's these people - not political activists - whose frustrations gave rise to the Tea Party. It is these people who sat out in 2008, having no one to vote for (or alternatively, just rolled the dice on Obama because they were sick of Bush); it is these people who came out big time in 2009 special elections, and again in the 2010 midterms, producing a historic wave of GOP victories.

They're ready to turn out again, but not for another establishment candidate like McCain was. They're also ready to sit out again if that game is played once more. They can't be fooled for very long - they see the evidence of what is going on in their wallets, and as long as their standard of living continues to drop they will know it.

Either the GOP will serve this constituency (and it is massive as 2010 showed) - or it will get shown the door. As more jobs are lost, more wages cut, more credit is cut, more benefits run out, this group only continues to become more potent as an electoral force, as people start choosing their wallets over whatever ideology they thought was important when times were good.

They're not going to buy a handed-down-from-on-high social conservative or a neo-conservative wrapped in the Tea Party banner. They will take someone who puts their pocketbook issues first, and if they happen to be socially conservative, they'll take that as part of the package.

Napolitano is that person. He is experienced in the media and can clearly express fundamental issues in ways that everyone can understand and relate to. He has his priorities in order, and that comes through when he talks. He is not fake, he is not a professional politician - but he does know the how law and government works. He is exactly what this country is looking for in a President for 2012.

256 posted on 08/28/2011 2:46:22 PM PDT by icanhasbailout (Draft Napolitano 2012)
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To: knarf
ISN'T THAT WHAT WE COME HERE FOR ???

LOL,

I agree completely with your post.

I want to read any useful information about any candidate here on FR. Anyone running for President of this great country is applying for a post that is still the most powerful in the world. I say "post whatever you have about him/her, and let the chips fall where they may."

I read every post I come across about all the candidates for exactly what you stated: "That's what I come here for!". I'll leave it up to the site owner and his moderators to determine if something is "posted too many times".

It's way too early to determine who I will vote for, there are still possible candidates to declare themselves. All the postings that say "the polls PROVE that candidate X or candidate Y is going to win and candidate Z doesn't have a chance" make me laugh. American elections just aren't that easy or straightforward (regardless of what the pollsters and various FR posters would like to have us believe).

Perusing many posted articles gives a good familiarity about those posters who have an agenda, those who flow back and forth between truth and deception about their positions, and those who are honestly trying to learn about the various candidates.

FR is always a riot to read for snark, counter-snark, wit, witlessness, truth, falsehood, reasonableness and unreasonableness. And lately, it is humorous to watch those you and I would consider noobs, calling others noobs. Nothing like a good you're-a-noob battle to get the juices flowing here at FR.

Thanks for your post, I have been thinking along the same lines for a while now, but I seldom post since, by the time I formulate what I would say, somebody has already said it -- better.

257 posted on 08/28/2011 2:47:48 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: Tempest

So falsehood caricatures like that are OK, eh? And it’s a good idea to spread hateful (and false) caricatures about conservatives generated by leftards? All’s fair game?

Is that what you’re saying? I just want to make sure I understand you.


258 posted on 08/28/2011 2:48:39 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

“hateful”? That’s an oddly leftist way to describe something.

That pic looks pretty accurate to me. What gives you reason to expect that this Texas governor is going to produce different results than the last one?


259 posted on 08/28/2011 2:49:18 PM PDT by icanhasbailout (Draft Napolitano 2012)
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To: The Bronze Titan

How do you suppose Rick Perry will do in the general election with all the dirt he’s got on him and the hypersensitivity of his followers.


260 posted on 08/28/2011 2:50:59 PM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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