Posted on 09/25/2011 1:30:34 PM PDT by IbJensen
I doubt much would be left to hunt and fish after the onslaught of 300 million hungry humans.
The gov’t would be paralyzed. It would be nothing more than another force marauding across the dark landscape looking for people to coerce and control. Just one among street gangs, warlords, and militias.
I find it almost impossible to believe that the government hasn't take similar precautions with all of our electrical power. Even IF the government hadn't done anything then the electric companies aren't stupid. For every minute they're down they're losing massive amounts of money. They would protect it just to preserve their capital.
” I was planning on using liberals for lighting and heat. “
Naah - even with the favorable fat content (especially in the cranial region), they’re still damnably hard to keep lit....
You’d just end up wasting a lot of precious matches, for little gain....
If you had a microcircuit sitting around nothing would happen to it.Not from what I've read on the subject.
Think about how sensitive computer chips are to static electricity. If you've ever installed such chips (CPUs, memory, etc.) in a computer, you undoubtedly know that you're suppose to take every possible precaution to avoid generating any electrical discharge.
An EMP doesn't have to generate much of a spike to burn out an integrated circuit.
Something heavy like an electric motor would not be affected.Agreed.
The biggest problem is the destruction of power transformers for major power lines.
* They take 18 months to make
* We don’t have a national stockpile of them
* And when ruined by EMP, the only choices are pay a premium to import them or have local grids offline (assuming they aren’t getting power from a local power plant) for a year and a half
If someone really wanted to cause trouble, set off an EMP by Google headquarter OR several major power junctions for the national grid. One shuts down Google and the Pacific Northwest that sends power to the west coast, the other prevents national power grid from functioning properly.
What brand ‘hand-cranked short wave radio’. There are so many out there that I don’t know which is best — or suitable.
Point being, we could recover from the attack.
I only need a Faraday cage built around my Kindle.
I honestly believe this is a bunch of hookum. I worked on computer systems in the Air Force that were built in the 60's and they had EMP circuits that would allow them to come up very quickly after a nuke/emp attack.Electronic devices from the 60s were naturally less sensitive to EMP than modern electronics. During the cold war, there was a concern that Russian military aircraft would survive much better than American planes because the Russians used vacuum tubes where we were using transistors and integrated circuits.I find it almost impossible to believe that the government hasn't take similar precautions with all of our electrical power. Even IF the government hadn't done anything then the electric companies aren't stupid. For every minute they're down they're losing massive amounts of money. They would protect it just to preserve their capital.
Also, the military has been taking this problem seriously for almost 50 years. They are willing to spend the extra money to protect against it.
The electric companies aren't going to spend the extra money ($20 billion was the estimate I heard) against this problem on their own initiative.
That’ll work! Good luck to us!
“At least my old Jeep doesnt have a computer. Of course it may be hard to get fuel.”
I was thinking about this scenario a few days ago and I thought “what would happen if I was tooling down the road in my VW bus?”. I then realized I’d be a major target.
Not even a microprocessor will be affected. There simply isn’t enough EMF generated by EMP to create enough energy to harm anything that small. Inductance is the name of the game here and EMP just doesn’t provide enough energy to induce high enough currents in such short wires to do damage. Nearby Lightening bolts generate more force and we don’t all freak out about those and we recover just fine from those bolts that do strike things like power lines.
The biggest problem is the destruction of power transformers for major power lines.That 18 month estimate is if we decided to build spare parts now, before we needed them.
* They take 18 months to make
After an EMP attack, it would probably take 20-50 years to rebuild, with the clock starting after the U.S. population stabilized at about 30 million.
An aircraft is more like a Faraday cage than most people realize. Think about a lightning strike and how it is disipated.
:O
“Starfish Prime was 1.4 MT. Your scenario has a warhead of significantly less yield. Dont think the results would equal your claim.”
EMP yield is remarkably insensitive to warhead yield. It is a bit, but it isn’t linear.
Well, as long a Gilligan, the Professor and Mary Anne are around, we’ll fo ok!
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