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Shotguns, Buckshot, and SHTF
Marktwain
| 23 October, 2011
| Marktwain
Posted on 10/23/2011 9:17:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Hammerhead
I’ve got 2 model 37 Ithaca’s, ones the standard 6 shot riot model and the other was just a lucky find I picked up back in the late 70’s. It’s a 20 inch US 8 shot that was issued to a Navy Seal team.
To: marktwain
Everybody seems to be impressed with 00 Buck but military studies show that #4 Buck is better.
There is more shot for better coverage and yet the shot is large enough to do the proper damage.
Aim just under the groin and the #4 Buck will not only knock them down but has the best chance to rip through an artery. The lower aim point will be under body armor if the perp is smart enough to be wearing it.
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posted on
10/23/2011 10:50:48 AM PDT
by
OldMissileer
(Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
To: Paladin2
Ah, the Mossbeg 590 Mariner. If you’re gonna have a shottie, that’s the one to have.
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posted on
10/23/2011 10:52:55 AM PDT
by
ctdonath2
($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
To: Gaffer
***ATG sold 12 gauge rounds loaded with fleschettes****
If you reload, you can fill the shotgun shell with short nails with the heads flattened to make fins.
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posted on
10/23/2011 10:54:17 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
To: ctdonath2
I own five A-5s. Three are Belgian. Two Japanese.
The Japanese guns are for the field...
To: marktwain
I have 2 Remmie 1100s with a bunch of these shells.
To: marktwain
Birthday gift from my wife.
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:12:28 AM PDT
by
optiguy
(Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
tie the 00buck with piano wire, awesome!
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:14:42 AM PDT
by
gunner03
To: Dusty Road
Be REALLY prepared, all slugs and buckshot:
Keep a couple of thirty round mags loaded, one with green tip piercing rounds and the other with hollow points:
And always have a 'handy':
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:19:26 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:22:33 AM PDT
by
Kartographer
(".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
To: marktwain
I will be giving a couple of 5 round boxes of this ammo to all of my neighbors who have 12 gauges this Christmas.Howdy!, neighbor. CO is right next door ya know. ;^)
I have more than a bunch and less than I'd like of 00buck and slugs as well as a fair number of shells in the #6-#7 shot range. What I would like to get and have put off for too long is some #4 buckshot.
I like your idea of thinking ahead to share with friends and neighbors. I think of that when stocking up on anything not just guns and ammo. It would be nice if they did their own prepping but some of them won't. As long as they're not greedy or have an attitude of entitlement to what others have I will share with them and I expect they will likely reciprocate with things they have an excess of. Like daughters. ;^)
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:28:37 AM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
To: Cyber Liberty
Now if I could just find my shotgun I lost in an unfortunate SCUBA diving accident and then get some of these:
If you decide to go with the FRAG-12 HE grenade rounds (12ga.), you have three (3) types to choose from: the FRAG-12 HE (High Explosive), FRAG-12 HE-FA (High Explosive Fragmenting Antipersonnel), and FRAG-12 HE-AP (High Explosive Armor-Piercing a.k.a. High Explosive Armor-Penetrating), depending on the mission profile and requirements. The FRAG-12 grenade rounds utilize a 19mm warhead with a MIL-SPEC 1316 compliant fuze assembly, and arm 3 meters from the muzzle for safety to the shooter. Regarding armor penetration capability, the original Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory (MCWL) literature on the FRAG-12 stated that the standard HE round will penetrate quarter-inch (1/4) cold-rolled homogenous steel (CRHS) armor plate and make a one-inch (1-inch)-diameter hole. The same document states that the HE-AP utilizes a shaped-charge warhead to penetrate half-inch (1/2-inch) cold-rolled homogenous steel armor plate, making the same 1-inch diameter hole. However, Defense Review was recently told that the HE-AP will now penetrate ¾-inch CRHS armor plate (unconfirmed/unverified).
The FRAG-12 HE round contains 2.8 grams of pelletized A5 RDX high explosive powder. On impact, it detonates, and you get a big bang, and a lot of fragmentation from the metal casing of the round. The HE-FA anti-personnel round a.k.a. fragmentation round contains 90 stainless steel ball bearings, but it utilizes a smaller explosive charge (approx. 1.8-1.9 grams of high explosive) than the HE round.
125 FRAG-12 grenade rounds are currently being safety-tested at Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC) Dahlgren a.k.a. NSWCDD. Testing is expected to continue for approx. one more month. Theyve already been testing them for the last two months.
Source: DefenseReview.com (http://s.tt/13fps)
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:31:16 AM PDT
by
Kartographer
(".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
To: Chuckster
I dont have any guns or ammo. All lost in the boating accident last year.Don't you people ever get tired of posting this unfunny, unwitty statement?
To: marktwain
I have a 12ga and lots of Federal Tactical 00, but if the bad guys are within 25 yards, you’re going to have a sucky day whatever you’ve got in a true SHTF situation.
For conventional B&E situations, it is a peerless weapon.
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:41:32 AM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
To: Paladin2
I'm absolutely amazed that folks are so willing to provide the world with information as to what they own....complete with pix.
Uh guys, URL’s can be traced back to the owners of the account, complete with names, addresses, bank accounts, phone records, SS#’s to name a few.
Keep your cards close to your vest.
To: marktwain
What's the life, the *safe* life, of various boxes of this, that, and whatever that's stored in a dry place?
BTW, my neighbors are mostly idiots. Some are idiots with guns which puts them at the top of the don't trust list (like the one city freak who chased a squirrel from several houses down, shot it at my child's window and left it there). Others are idiots who can't abide guns which puts them right below the first group. Other potential TEOTWAWKI enemies fall below the first two groups.
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:51:57 AM PDT
by
bgill
(There, happy now?)
To: Chuckster
“All lost in the boating accident last year.”
I think we both had similar accidents! A good friend of mine gave me a heads up on why it is difficult or impossible to find a shotgun in a river or deep creek. The stock tends to act as a flotation device and the gun bobs along the bottom with the current. He did recovery work for years in the black water creeks of the low country and off shore of Myrtle Beach in the Atlantic Ocean.
I am sharing this info so when the feds search unsuccessfully for our firearms in the place where they went “overboard” , we can give them a plausible excuse. :)
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:52:43 AM PDT
by
Big_Harry
(Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
To: OldPossum
Sometimes it’s best not to admit to what one has.
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posted on
10/23/2011 11:56:08 AM PDT
by
bgill
(There, happy now?)
To: Mikey_1962
“... we had 4 seasons: deer, pheasant, rabbit and hockey”.
You hunt hockey players in Michigan?! /s
To: servantboy777
I'm absolutely amazed that folks are so willing to provide the world with information as to what they own....complete with pix. You have a point, but as a well known local firearms instructor, I don't believe there is much chance to remain anonymous. I don't mind that the authorities realize that I am on good terms with my neighbors and that we are armed.
We are an asset to the local community and local peace officers, and they know it.
Put enough effort into tracking my url, and you could come up with a location, but the average burglar would not find it cost effective. If high level three letter agencies want more information on me, I am sure that I am in lots of data bases already.
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posted on
10/23/2011 12:14:09 PM PDT
by
marktwain
(In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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