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We're Not Electing a Messiah
American Thinker ^ | November 25, 2011 | R. Clayton Strang

Posted on 11/25/2011 4:30:57 AM PST by radioone

No one is perfect. No one. Not a single one of us has led a completely blameless life. We've all said something that we wish we hadn't. We've all lied, cheated, or stolen. We've all done or said hurtful things. Imperfection is a reality of the human condition. We know and accept that we are flawed. We realize that our parents, brothers, sisters, friends, and neighbors are flawed. If we accept this as true, why do we expect more from our potential elected leaders?

Every day, you can turn on the cable news, or go to your favorite news or blog sites, and hear all about the Republican presidential candidates and how imperfect they are. We all know about the sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain. Most agree that these charges have probably been completely fabricated. That being the case, we are then subjected to constant criticism of his campaign's handling of these allegations. Now we get to hear all about his flubbing of a question on Libya. The mainstream media has force-fed us clips of Rick Perry having a bit of a brain freeze during a debate. We know all about Newt Gingrich's past marital problems. He appeared in an ad with Nancy Pelosi, and he's criticized Congressman Paul Ryan. We hear these attacks daily from both sides of the aisle. These stories are designed to convince us of something that we should already know: no one is perfect!

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; gingrich; hermancain; romney
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
We need someone with a proven record

No, that's what you need. "We" are not a united front currently. I'm willing to give Cain the reins without a record. in fact, I like him that much more because he's not a politician.
21 posted on 11/25/2011 4:58:09 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
This is an unfair statement.

Says one of the single most obnoxious pro whatever RINO candidate running poster there is. You really should learn to ignore me.
22 posted on 11/25/2011 5:00:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek
Well said and dead-on target. This pinheads would have us believe that we should ignore all of a candidates past history as a means to determine their current veracity.

Pah. All of the candidates have flaws. What is important is figuring out which flaws are telling about a candidate and which ones are not. Newt has become an absolute creature of the Beltway, feasting at its corrupt trough And his affairs to me show a man with no sense of restraint to fulfill his desires - they are quite telling.

Perry at least understands the 10th Amendment, Newt appears to have no comprehension of the concept that there should be Constitutional limits enforced on federal power. Once again, Newt projects an image of not having a sense of self-restraint.

So since both have raised the specter of humanity in dealing with illegal immigrants, Perry wins the nod when compared to Newt IMO.

Newt is the last of my anti-Romney choices (excepting Paul and Huntsman, of course). I don't see him being the type of candidate we need to alter how the Beltway works. Santorum is also Beltway-addled. To me, the only candidates that understand the Tea leaves are Perry, Cain and Bachmann.

23 posted on 11/25/2011 5:00:55 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: freedomfiter2

False argument: Attack the messenger.


24 posted on 11/25/2011 5:02:37 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: freedomfiter2

No kidding, if the GOP gets any more moderate they’ll be in Clinton territory. If they want to moderate someone so badly, they should moderate the party that actually needs it.


25 posted on 11/25/2011 5:04:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: radioone

His worshippers and the main stream media thought that they were when they put obama in the White House. Their message was that he would transform the world into a place that would make the Garden of Eden a slum in comparison.


26 posted on 11/25/2011 5:08:04 AM PST by sport
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To: central_va

One man’s RINO is another man’s conservative.


27 posted on 11/25/2011 5:08:35 AM PST by swampfox101
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To: radioone

Can we get Lieberman to run for our side ? He’s right down the middle so a lot of Independents and Democrats would vote for him. Maybe a Lierbman/McCain ticket. Some Democrats don’t like Obama - but a lot still do. If we could get Obama to switch to the Republican party, then really turn out as many mainstream liberal Republicans as Karl Rove, Bill O’Realy and Ann Coulter can convince to come out, we should be able to “convert a lot of liberals”. What a coup ! We’d almost guarantee that we’d beat the Democrats ! We just need to promise something to the unions and do some puppet-master-behind-the-scenes thing with Bloomberg and the OWS people. /sarc


28 posted on 11/25/2011 5:09:34 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“Right now I see two former governors who have a record of governing and they are Romney and Perry.”

Three former governors, with a record of governing. Three! :-)


29 posted on 11/25/2011 5:09:44 AM PST by Tredegar (Huntsman 2012 - Qualifications, Experience and Expertise, MATTER)
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To: radioone
If we accept this as true, why do we expect more from our potential elected leaders?

Because they are people we are supposed to look up to?

30 posted on 11/25/2011 5:10:27 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: dirtboy
This pinheads would have us believe that we should ignore all of a candidates past history

You have a reading comprehension issue, pinhead. How did you make the leap from "All candidates have flaws." to "We should ignore all of a candidates past history." Why do think all three of your candidates are languishing near the bottom of the pack, when they once led? No-one can meet your standards...

31 posted on 11/25/2011 5:13:46 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: cripplecreek
Says one of the single most obnoxious pro whatever RINO candidate running poster there is. You really should learn to ignore me.

Falsed argument:Ad hominem. We really should ignore you...the site would be better for it.

32 posted on 11/25/2011 5:15:38 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: cripplecreek

It depends what people mean by “no candidate is perfect”. Logically, that is obviously true, because we are all flawed, but if they are using that argument to excuse some heinous act or moral shortcoming, then I’m afraid it doesn’t wash. These candidates are aspiring to the highest political office in the land. They SHOULD be held to a high standard of conduct.


33 posted on 11/25/2011 5:15:38 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: cripplecreek

When I look at our current crop of candidates, I see some really good conservatives. Romney is probably the most liberal of all but the rest have good conservative backgrounds.

Do they have flaws, you bet. Any of them.....!!!....any of them is far more conservative than some of the folks we have had running in past elections.

George W. Bush and John McCain would be considered ultra liberals when compared to most of these folks. I think our current crop is a good group and we need to stop disparaging our own.


34 posted on 11/25/2011 5:15:54 AM PST by swampfox101
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To: cripplecreek
If there’s one thing I’ve learned, its that those who scream the loudest that no one is perfect, are generally supporting the most imperfect. This isn’t a new argument and not all of us are stupid.

Question. Who is your perfect candidate? Do you think half of FR would agree? What's your biggest hot button? Amnesty/Border Control? If so, other than sealing the borders and getting rid of the most obvious criminals, what would be a workable plan to prevent any sort of anmnesty by getting rid of 10+ million folks? What kind of repercussions might be expected (fighting in streets, etc.)? If repercussions occur, what powers would the Feds have to assume to control it?

I'm a proponent of sealing the borders and getting rid of the worst elements, but cannot fathom a plan that would be viable to actually get rid of everyone that is not here legally. How much manpower needed oever what period of time? What tactics? Would Mexico rebel and not accept them? What response to that?

I keep hearing rants on "no amnesty", but have yet to see an actual visualization of a plan (other than folks seeming to think it "will just happen" if they get the "perfect candidate" in.

35 posted on 11/25/2011 5:16:21 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: ez

You can go suck eggs, shill. We’ve seen how you are willing to suspend your brain to bash those raising sensible critiques of Newt.


36 posted on 11/25/2011 5:16:51 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ez

The messiah maynot be running but we do have a preacher.....GO CAIN!!!!!!!!!!


37 posted on 11/25/2011 5:17:13 AM PST by jneesy (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a mans character, give him power.)
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To: ez

The messiah maynot be running but we do have a preacher.....GO CAIN!!!!!!!!!!


38 posted on 11/25/2011 5:17:21 AM PST by jneesy (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a mans character, give him power.)
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To: Tredegar

Actually, to correct myself, and to be absolutely fair there are actually five candidates in the race who have executive experience: Romney, Perry, Huntsman, Roemer and Johnson.

Our crop of candidates are nowhere near as weak as the media will have people believe.


39 posted on 11/25/2011 5:18:13 AM PST by Tredegar (Huntsman 2012 - Qualifications, Experience and Expertise, MATTER)
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To: ez
My pecking order right now is Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, Romney, Paul, Huntsman, but that changes almost every day.

I'm with you, but I'm just a little more stable in my picks. As we near the real "post time" for this process to become official and underway, the numbers begin to get clearer and more set. Those who really need the traction either have to start getting it or step aside. Those numbers are what will ultimately determine the nominee. The perception of strength is often more of a decisive factor than the reality. Hate to say it but that's a fact.

On the plus side, so far it seems to me that the money and organizational issues that the press keeps crowing about is not having much effect on the process. I think that's because the American electorate has finally awoken to the manipulations of the press in favor of liberals on both sides. When the press starts taking shots at views that are contrary to conservative thought, organization, money available and etc, I start taking a harder look at that candidate, especially if there has been a surge for them in any substantive poll.

That's why Huntsman is off my radar. If Bachmann does well (even third) in Iowa or NH, she'll be one I'm looking at more carefully. Same for Perry or Cain. But I'm betting on Gingrich right now. I really want somebody who's not going to stumble in a debate and I know Gingrich, Cain or Bachmann will wipe the floor with Obama. I can't say that for Perry.

It's stupid, but a good number of brain dead voters will base their votes on debate performance alone in the general.

40 posted on 11/25/2011 5:19:15 AM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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