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TWO questions for Freepers who continue to support Cain
one man's opinion..

Posted on 11/29/2011 4:30:04 PM PST by ken5050

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To: Political Junkie Too
I totally agree with your last line...that you'd "like to see actual proof and not just more allegations."

Absolutely ..so then, what's our disagreement? But what's the basis for your blind faith in that theory? And it follows that you feel that all Cain has to do is deny it..and you're fine with it..

i guess I'm just more cynical than you

41 posted on 11/29/2011 5:04:34 PM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I totally agree with your last line...that you'd "like to see actual proof and not just more allegations."

Absolutely ..so then, what's our disagreement?

You feel that the statements she's made..the text..the phone number..the calls at all hours..are somehow fabricated by those wanting to destroy Cain.

But what's the basis for your blind faith in that theory? And it follows that you feel that all Cain has to do is deny it..and you're fine with it..

i guess I'm just more cynical than you

42 posted on 11/29/2011 5:04:50 PM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: sushiman

Spot on.


43 posted on 11/29/2011 5:04:55 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: crz

You should also watch the videos yourself. Newspaper articles never capture the essence of a story in written word.

You can start here:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/11/28/sr-cain-not-quitting-mpg.cnn

There are several videos, each one a different segment of the interviews with both Cain and the woman.


44 posted on 11/29/2011 5:05:46 PM PST by BagCamAddict (How about you post in support of YOUR candidate, instead of trashing all the others??)
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To: ken5050

If he drops out, please make the contribution to moi, who’s belling telling ya but you wouldn’t lissen!


45 posted on 11/29/2011 5:06:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Prokopton

“It was pretty simple,” Ginger White said of the affair she recounted having had with Mr. Cain. “It wasn’t complicated.”

yes; I’ve always been told that the best lies are not complicated. This woman looks to me like the original “Lying ass bitch”,

I still have to give Hermie the benefit of the doubt.


46 posted on 11/29/2011 5:07:10 PM PST by Segovia
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To: Usagi_yo
It’s not because he had an affair. It’s not because he hemmed an hawed about it when it came to the surface.

When did he hem and haw? I read that he firmly denied it.

...How can you run for such a high office, and not consider the skeletons in your closet.

That's a good point, if the accusations are true, he will go down in history as a real butthead for wasting the money and time of those that believed in him.

But what if there aren't any skeletons? Should he drop out just because he is under attack? (I guess then you would say he didn't have the backbone to fight it)

47 posted on 11/29/2011 5:07:26 PM PST by farmguy
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To: crz

And be sure to listen to this one from the woman’s attorney:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2011/11/28/jk-cain-accuser-attorney.cnn

He doesn’t “think” there is any financial motivation on the part of the woman.

She thought she could come out with this and it would be the end of it.

He isn’t going to speculate on whether there was a physical relationship.

Contrast the way this attorney talks, vs. the first “accuser” who flat out said “It was sexual harassment” — even though harassment was never even charged, certainly not found guilty, etc. But that first woman’s attorney pronounced Cain guilty when he stood at the microphones for his press conference. Remember the press conference where he read the woman’s statement saying she was NOT going to press the issue any further?

At least this attorney isn’t jumping on the “Cain is guilty” bandwagon just yet.


48 posted on 11/29/2011 5:12:01 PM PST by BagCamAddict (How about you post in support of YOUR candidate, instead of trashing all the others??)
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To: Big Horn

RE: Obama wrecked our best candidate using the Chicago way.

Wasn’t Obama. Twas the Romney Sleaze Machine. Bet on it.


49 posted on 11/29/2011 5:13:32 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: BagCamAddict

First thing. I wouldnt believe a GD thing her attorney said.

Second, The woman is a lying filthy gold digger and has a lot to answer for.

The attorney is in it for the money as she is.


50 posted on 11/29/2011 5:16:59 PM PST by crz
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To: ken5050

He is NOT dropping out..

The evil in this country is desperate....they want to tie this man to back of the truck and drive him around the country as an example to everyone....

I will NOT sit by idly....

His supporters will cut down the tree and burn down the plantation before we allow them to hang this man...


51 posted on 11/29/2011 5:17:55 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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Steyn subbed for Rush today and did his best Karl Rove—he bashed all the candidates except Mitt and when a caller accused him of being a Mittbot he blustered and flustered in perfidious denial.
Mark is one of those establishment elite pundits who say the race is now between Mitt and Newt alone and that Newt ain't got a chance.

Mark Levin let the Canook have it by saying there ain't been no votes yet and if you like a candidate not on top of the polls, by gum support and vote for him or her and to heck with those saying ANYONE doesn't have a chance.

And until I see some real proof Cain did anything wrong he has my South Carolina vote on Jan 21st!!!

52 posted on 11/29/2011 5:18:00 PM PST by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: ken5050
Answers to question 1 No

Answer to question 2 NO

53 posted on 11/29/2011 5:18:52 PM PST by goat granny
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To: ken5050

Didn’t you say Cain was going to drop out? Is this your way of feeling better about yourself after being wrong?


54 posted on 11/29/2011 5:19:02 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Usagi_yo

“Well I liked Cain, but my support for him has dropped. Barring legitimate indications that the affair allegations where made up, I won’t be supporting Cain in any manner”

You have this backwards and I don’t think you appreciate how deceitful the MSM and the Marxist Democrat party have become. Absolutely NOTHING is beneath them.

You have all the indications you should need. Any story being spread by the MSM and which goes against any conservative candidate should be immediately dismissed as a fabrication until “legitimate indications” are shown that the story is in fact true.

How will you feel if Cain is able to secure irrefutable evidence that this story was completely fabricated by this woman?


55 posted on 11/29/2011 5:21:30 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: crz

Exactly.


56 posted on 11/29/2011 5:24:42 PM PST by BagCamAddict (How about you post in support of YOUR candidate, instead of trashing all the others??)
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To: Usagi_yo

In other words, it’s about “guilty until proven innocent”. There isn’t any real evidence about any of this. You’ve let the media condition you.


57 posted on 11/29/2011 5:24:53 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: ken5050

No and No


58 posted on 11/29/2011 5:27:12 PM PST by 07Jack
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To: Apollo5600

Yea, well Obama is a narcissistic incompetent clown and I didn’t have to wait for a court of law to prove it before figuring that one out for myself.


59 posted on 11/29/2011 5:27:17 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Apollo5600

What I said was that I believe that he will drop out by the weekend...we shall see..


60 posted on 11/29/2011 5:28:01 PM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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