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Why I Won't Vote for Mitt Romney If He is the GOP Nominee
http://libertarian-neocon.blogspot.com/2011/12/why-i-wont-vote-for-mitt-romney-if-he.html ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 12/15/2011 1:44:32 PM PST by libertarian neocon

This is really not a place I thought I'd be at. Up until very recently I didn't even think there was a Republican that could be nominated that would keep me home on election day or vote for a 3rd party. I think I have found that candidate and it is Mitt Romney. There are two main reasons for this, the first being that I really have no idea what he actually stands for. I don't think anybody does. And I think that chances are high that he doesn't really stand for much that is different than Obama's current policies. Let's take a quick look at his record:

So let's see, implemented a socialist healthcare system, raised taxes, opposed tax cuts, proposed a draconian decrease in greenhouse emissions, was for increasing the minimum wage, signed a permanent assault weapons ban and appointed liberal judges. His record in Massachusetts is simply dreadful and really makes it hard to see how he would be that much different than Obama.

Even in this primary season, in which his rhetoric is the most conservative you will probably see Mitt act in his lifetime (if he gets the nomination, expect him to move to the left for the general election), it's unclear how different he is. Take foreign policy. His biggest issue with Obama is that he is withdrawing the "surge troops" in September 2012 instead of December 2012. Really, a 3 month difference? Is that why I am supposed to vote for you? What about arguing that we keep the troops there until we win? Have we forgot about having actual victory as a goal? It seems Mitt has. Then, on Israel, his biggest issue with Obama's policies seem to be that he criticized Israel in public instead of in private. Big friggin deal. As a strong Israel supporter I am not for any US President who will turn the screws on the Jewish state whether it be out in the open or behind closed doors. I want someone who actually supports Israel, one of our closest allies, and will work together against common foes. Then of course there was the exchange with Newt in which Romney defended capital gains tax cut being limited to those making under $200,000 in language similar to Obama's. "I'm not worried about rich people. They are doing just fine."

So tell me again why I should be voting for Mitt? Have you noticed that most Mitt proponents seem to focus on the idea that he is the "most electable" as the reason to vote for him with almost no mention of his record? The most they can scrounge up are some quotes with promises from the Romney campaign. Yes, promises from a guy who changes his mind like you change your underwear. I think the real reason that much of the establishment Republicans support Romney is because of the same old Washington game. It really doesn't matter to them what the ideology of the candidate is, as long as he wins and you are friends with his close advisors. And since Romney has been the front runner for so long, each one of those establishment reporters have spent months, even years schmoozing with the campaign and have dreams of close access with a sitting President and possibly even an undersecretaryship. How else do you explain their visceral reaction to Gingrich, the first realistic challenger to Romney. Newt has issues, sure, but has it deserved the relentless negative attacks? Sure, he isn't a perfect conservative but very few are. Even Rick Santorum has favored pork projects, steel tariffs and medicare part D. You don't see the press attacking him for it. Or even Ron Paul who is polling as #2 in most Iowa polls. That's because the Romney supporters in the press don't feel either of them are a threat to them achieving the access/position they have been waiting for.

And this brings up the second big reason why I won't be voting for Mitt Romney if he wins the nomination. His treatment of his Republican opposition. This man acts just like Obama, someone who will do anything to be President. It is one thing to compete with a candidate for votes through a fair description of differences in record etc., but it's another thing to be out to destroy another candidate, especially another Republican. And that is exactly what Romney and his minions are trying to do with Newt, they are trying to destroy him. Even people who aren't in Newt's camp, like Mark Levin are seeing this happen before our eyes. Really, the temerity of Romney saying that Newt is an unreliable conservative after having a record as horrible as he had in Massachusetts? Referring to him as "zany"? Having surrogates character assassinate in the press on an almost daily basis? It's not like Newt did anything to deserve any of this. He didn't climb to the top of the polls through negative ads on Romney, he climbed to the top by appearing as an elder statesman in a weak candidate field and having the ability to actually explain why he believes what he believes. He also has a proven record of balancing budgets and passing entitlement reform under a Democratic President! Is that so wrong? And this isn't the first time Romney did this, as he also launched negative attacks on both Huckabee and McCain (though he didn't have the press in his pocket back then because Giuliani and Thompson were thought to have a greater chance at the nomination early on).

Things have become so bad that you face character assassination just for opposing Romney. Rudy Giuliani had a rant against Romney today focusing on his flip flops. Jennifer Rubin attacked him for this by tweeting "Romney will never win over the adulterers no matter how hard he tries". Really? That is all Rudy Giuliani is now? An adulterer? How about the NYC mayor who showed real leadership while his city was under attack by Al-Qaeda, with thousands dead, including many members of the local police and fire departments? He's a hero and doesn't deserve to be called an adulterer for voicing an opinion about a candidate.

And unfortunately, even Paul Ryan, who has become engulfed by the establishment, has come in on the act with a completely dishonest attack on Newt. Just yesterday (as in 1 day ago) he said "This is not the 1990s. The 'Mediscare' is not working and we should not back down from this fight. I, for one, believe the country is ready, they're hungry for it. They are ready to hear real solutions. We shouldn't wait around for the status quo to become popular. Leaders don't follow the polls, leaders change the polls." And what did he do today? He announced the Ryan-Wyden plan which waters down his reforms tremendously and possibly eliminates any actual benefit from medicare reform. The Washington Post has this choice line "Ryan and Wyden acknowledged that their plan might not bring in more savings than under the current law." Is this how leader's lead? Also, apparently Ryan and Wyden won't even write the proposed legislation any time in the near future, likely waiting until 2013 (I guess they have time as there will be no benefit coming until 2022).

And there you have it. Neither Romney's record nor his rhetoric are something that I would actually want to vote for. He is, in many ways, little different from the guy who Romney supporters claim Romney would be best at getting rid of. I am also very much turned off by his character, which is supposedly exemplary but is, in actuality, that of a calculating political operative only interested in himself. As I've mentioned before, he is the Dorian Grey of the GOP and I stick by that. I am also sick of the establishment thinking they can ram a candidate down our throats, without even a single vote being cast! Unlike normal people, they care more about which party is in office, than the ideology of the guy actually in office. They are the ones behind the Democrat-lite candidates that we had in almost every election since 1936. No wonder government has continued to expand at such a fantastic rate. If the Democrats win, they expand government. If the Republicans win, they also expand government. I'm tired of that cycle and I'm tired of having to vote between the lesser of two evils.

I also think those of us who believe in small government need to take a stand against MItt Romney in order to save the Tea Party movement. I think that if after all the effort to fight Obamacare and to win back the House ends up with us getting someone like Mitt Romney, many Tea Party supporters will just throw up their hands in disgust and walk away from caring any more. Focusing more on their jobs and family rather than politics. This will ensure both that the GOP will lose a large portion of their base for future elections (giving more victories to the Democrats) as well as giving GOP control squarely in the hands of the establishment so they can continue to nominate losers like McCain, Romney, Dole and George H.W. Bush.

So, I can see myself supporting every other GOP candidate if they are the nominee. Bachmann, Santorum, Perry, Paul and even Huntsman will get my vote (he might be a wayward conservative but at least he is honest about it. Plus, his record as Governor of Utah is much better than Romney's and his tax reform plan is actually ambitious). But not Romney. Not ever.


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To: libertarian neocon

Then you’re a Dumba***...

I’ll vote for anyone with an R behind their name, if it means getting rid of the incompetent marxist idiot liar we now have in the White House.

I ant my daughter to have a future. How about YOU?


21 posted on 12/15/2011 2:01:27 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: libertarian neocon

libertarian neocon
Since Jun 9, 2011

I SMELL TROLL....


22 posted on 12/15/2011 2:02:24 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: mk2000

Of course. Call me a pragmatist but I’d rather someone OTHER than Hussain replace Ginsberg, who has one foot in the grave.


23 posted on 12/15/2011 2:02:37 PM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: Hoodat
I will not vote for N. Leroy Gingrich if he is the GOP nominee.
Will you kick your feet and hold your breath until you turn blue? Get over it - this ain't about you.
Do you have ANY idea what Obama will try to do as a four year lame duck?
You don't have a clue how dangerous this man and his comrades really are.
24 posted on 12/15/2011 2:02:42 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mk2000

If Mitt Milquetoast is so electable, why does he need any conservative support. He should get all of the moderate vote plus the RINO’s. He is home free. He doesn’t need us.


25 posted on 12/15/2011 2:02:57 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: vmivol00

“All I see Romney doing is setting back the conservatives in the GOP by about another 10 years. I can’t vote for someone who I know is intent on destroying the only reason I support the GOP....conservatism.”

Romney would turn the clock back on the GOP to the time before Reagan. Back when the GOP didnt even really stand for small government, just being slightly to the right of the Democrats.


26 posted on 12/15/2011 2:03:21 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: libertarian neocon

I’m no Romney supporter, but of the candidates who probably have a chance at the nomination...each could have a diatribe written about them. I’m voting Nobama...which means I’ll be voting for the GOP nominee.


27 posted on 12/15/2011 2:04:21 PM PST by dawn53
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To: libertarian neocon

Too soon to discuss, at least in a public way, what I would do if we get Mitt’ed on.

I certainly want the public to believe that Mitt is unacceptable as a nominee. (And maybe he is. I’m not sure. The fact that it’s another McCain-like close call is a shame.)


28 posted on 12/15/2011 2:05:22 PM PST by pogo101
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To: tcrlaf

“I’ll vote for anyone with an R behind their name, if it means getting rid of the incompetent marxist idiot liar we now have in the White House.

I want my daughter to have a future. How about YOU?”

But what exactly will change under Romney? He says he is against Obamacare but I have huge doubts he will do any more than fiddle around the edges with it. After all, it is modeled on his program. Our foreign policy will still be wishy washy. Our economic policy as well as he also is a Keynesian with a Keynesian economic advisor in the form of Greg Mankiw.

I don’t think that Mitt is sufficiently different than Obama to actually change the future for our kids. If you want your daughter to have a future you will not let the establishment think you will vote for anyone with an R after their name. Only then will they listen to us and nominate someone who actually believes in something (they dont have to be perfect, as I said I would vote for any of the other nominees).


29 posted on 12/15/2011 2:07:42 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: pogo101

if obama salaama wins in 2012, we will never, ever get rid of him (see zimbabwe et al.)


30 posted on 12/15/2011 2:08:07 PM PST by tanstaafl44 (Muslims cannot let Western Civilization kill itself in peace.)
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To: tcrlaf
We've been given a choice of Democrat or a Democrat-lite RINO every elecetion for as long as I've been here, and told we have to vote for the R to keep from getting the D, and it will be better next time.

But it never is, and we just keep going backwards. Sometimes just a few steps, other times in great leaps, but always backwards.

How do I get off this merry-go-round?

31 posted on 12/15/2011 2:08:31 PM PST by tacticalogic (e)
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To: oh8eleven

I think you’ll have a harder time convincing the anti-Mitt crowd here if Romney ends up being the nominee. But don’t worry about me. I promise not to vote for Obama either.


32 posted on 12/15/2011 2:08:50 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: libertarian neocon
But what exactly will change under Romney?

Quite possibly the makeup of the House and Senate. And you'd waste that on Hussain?

33 posted on 12/15/2011 2:10:14 PM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: dawn53

“I’m no Romney supporter, but of the candidates who probably have a chance at the nomination...each could have a diatribe written about them. I’m voting Nobama...which means I’ll be voting for the GOP nominee.”

I never said a candidate has to be perfect. In fact, if you check out the very useful white papers on the candidates from the Club for Growth, http://www.clubforgrowth.org/whitepapers/ you will quickly see how imperfect all the candidates are. The point however is that Romney doesnt even meet the minimum threshold of what I consider to be a Republican or of someone who will be good at governing this country of ours. Im also sick of the establishment trying to make decisions for us.


34 posted on 12/15/2011 2:10:49 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: libertarian neocon

Obama is so bad I will vote of Mitt if it comes down to it.


35 posted on 12/15/2011 2:11:14 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: libertarian neocon

If Mitt wins the nomination, I will write in Sarah Palin in the general, and maintain my personal integrity. I will not willingly cast my vote for this spineless liberal under any conditions.

If we’re going to lose to the Communists by putting up a Commie-Lite, I refuse to be a part of it. I’d rather face what’s coming with eyes wide open, and prepare for the worst.


36 posted on 12/15/2011 2:13:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: truthkeeper

“Quite possibly the makeup of the House and Senate. And you’d waste that on Hussain?”

First, I never said I wouldnt vote for my local GOP candidate, so I’m not giving Hussein anything.

Also, you don’t think much of the base will stay home in 2014 after 2 years of Romney betraying what we have been fighting for? I’d expect major democratic gains in that election, just like in 2006 after Bush moved to the left.


37 posted on 12/15/2011 2:14:06 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: libertarian neocon
Every time I see Romney's face I remember the CNN-YouTube debate back in 2007 where he took a big dump on the Southern Battle Flag.

That moment I decided the he would NEVER get my vote under any circumstance.

38 posted on 12/15/2011 2:14:43 PM PST by Godebert
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To: oh8eleven

“You don’t have a clue how dangerous this man and his comrades really are.”

On the contrary. I believe that if he loses, he and his people will have a fire sale of government secrets and equipment, contracts and a looting of the treasury until the Republicans take over Jan 20th.

Anyone remember what happened when the Clintons vacated the Whitehouse? They destroyed all the computers, destroyed the phone system, took all the furniture, sold everything that wasn’t bolted down from Air Force 1 on Ebay, etc. ad nauseaum. The media just laughed. But what if we had been attacked that day?


39 posted on 12/15/2011 2:15:02 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: libertarian neocon

Romney can’t even win his own party without character assassination and an assist from the media. I’m pretty sure he won’t be getting an assist from the media in the general campaign.

Regardless of how bad Obama is, the GOP nominee will need a motivated base to come out and support him. I know people don’t want to hear this, but not being Obama isn’t going to be enough. If Romney can’t even motivate his supposed base enough to win the nomination, how can anyone expect he will have a motivated base to support him in the general election?

I won’t be bullied into making a crappy vs. crappier decision by the GOP establishment. They did this with Dole and McCain, and they are running the exact same plan again. Remember this is the party that gives conservatives good deals like “Gang of...”, the debt limit debacle, and decisions like Blunt vs. Johnson. I would rather vote for a write in candidate, than support the continued destruction of the only party with a semblance of a conservative bone.


40 posted on 12/15/2011 2:16:19 PM PST by vmivol00
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