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If Obama has no Natural Born Citizenship problem why did Congress try to fix it?
coachisright.com ^ | Feb. 5, 2012 | Suzanne Eovaldi, staff writer

Posted on 02/05/2012 9:33:38 AM PST by jmaroneps37

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Why would Don Nickles (R-OK) and Dana Rohrabacher join the Democrats in trying to fix something that wasn't and isn't broken?
1 posted on 02/05/2012 9:33:44 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

Tom Coburn (R) of Oklahoma also worked with McCaskill on the Senate Judiciary Committee to change the Constitution.


2 posted on 02/05/2012 9:38:47 AM PST by charlie72
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To: jmaroneps37

Is there any doubt that we are controlled by the communists and America has been overthrown by both parties included the Supreme Court. This is no joke! The few patriots we have left are unable to do anything.


3 posted on 02/05/2012 9:40:12 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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4 posted on 02/05/2012 9:41:00 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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Co-sponsors of the failed legislation were Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama!. By the way, was not the John McCain eligibility hearing really a head fake to draw attention away from the Democrats’ elephant in the room?

And how long did it take this joker to figure that one out. Of course it was a head fake; that and the whole "birth certificate issue" were both massive head fakes designed to divert attention from the real issue of whether someone with a foreign parent (also known as a "dual citizen", a British citizen in this case) could ever be be a "natural born citizen" when the Constitutional "NBC" provision was aimed squarely at Brits who might pop out a "Manchestrian Candidate" for President with the intent of reattaching the US to the Crown.

5 posted on 02/05/2012 9:43:52 AM PST by pawdoggie
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Someone needs to spend $1,000,000 doing a documentary legally proving Barack Hussein Obama II's forging of not one, not two, but three false Birth Certificates from Hawaii.
Then they need to go inside Kenya with Peter Ogego, Kenyan Ambassador to the United States, to the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
There the Ambassador can present and verify the Birth Certificate with the footprint of Barack Hussein Obama II.
Then we can all sit back and watch the parade of liars spin their hides out of that pile of crap.
6 posted on 02/05/2012 9:44:34 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: charlie72
Congress has a coequal right and duty to interpret, enforce and enact Constitutional provisions.
Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at Birth and nothing else.
It has always meant the same thing.
However, Congressional Legislation has frequently changed the requirements necessary, to obtain birthright citizenship. Legislation trumps Common Law. Legislation trumps Natural Law. Legislation trumps the Law of Nations. Legislation trumps Vattel.
7 posted on 02/05/2012 9:45:28 AM PST by Kansas58
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The Constutional Meaning Of "Natural Born Citizen"
8 posted on 02/05/2012 9:46:19 AM PST by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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Why would Don Nickles (R-OK) and Dana Rohrabacher join the Democrats in trying to fix something that wasn't and isn't broken?

Because they didn't want to derail the "McCain Train" to GOP victory in '08. And how did that work out for 'em?

9 posted on 02/05/2012 9:48:21 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: jmaroneps37

Coincidentally this was just sent to me by email. I have no idea if it is valid or not. I don’t watch tv very often, and never watch any “news” shows.

VERY IMPORTANT—SUNDAY NIGHT This Coming Sunday— Set Your DVR for the Fox News channel at 9:00 PM eastern. Maybe this is why the White House has been
discounting FOX. Sounds like this could be history in the making - someone may go down - either Obama or Fox News. It may be that Fox has been holding this information back due to the sensitivity of it and out of courtesy. But, Obama has taken on Fox and it appears they are ready to spill the ugly beans of truth about the background of this individual who has had an extremely radical past. This Sunday, Fox News is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama, Sunday night at 9P.M. Eastern. The report will go back to Obama’s earlier days, showing even then his close ties to radical Marxist professors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc. It will also reveal details about his ties to Rev. Wright for 20+ years, i.e., how he was participating with this man, and not for the reasons he stated. The report has uncovered more of Obama’s radical past and we will see things that no one in the media is willing to put out there. It will be a segment to remember. Mark your calendar and pass this on to everyone you know: Sunday night, 8 PM CT; 9 PM ET. Democrat or Republican, this report will open your eyes to how YOUR country is being sold down the road to Totalitarian Socialism. If you care about the direction of our country, pass this notice on to everyone you know.


10 posted on 02/05/2012 9:49:58 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Kansas58
However, Congressional Legislation has frequently changed the requirements necessary, to obtain birthright citizenship. Legislation trumps Common Law. Legislation trumps Natural Law. Legislation trumps the Law of Nations. Legislation trumps Vattel.

Oh, so that's why Wong Kim Ark lost his case and was denied citizenship by the Supreme Court! Because there were Congressional statutes at the time—and even a treaty with China‐that prohibited the children of Chinese nationals from becoming US citizens!

You're so brilliant, Kansas58. You have opened my eyes so that I can finally understand why the Supreme Court decided than Wong Kim Ark was not a citizen, in spite of what the 14th Amendment says. The silly Amendment was overruled by Congressional statute. How obvious it should have been.

11 posted on 02/05/2012 9:53:39 AM PST by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: basil

I think that was sent around for some show Hannity did, maybe two years ago.


12 posted on 02/05/2012 9:53:58 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Gingrich/West 2012)
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In November, we vote them out. THEN, we put them in prison for treason.


13 posted on 02/05/2012 9:55:07 AM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: basil

Sounds like an email that has been making the rounds for a year or more.


14 posted on 02/05/2012 9:56:06 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: jmaroneps37; Danae; Red Steel; LucyT; null and void; melancholy; bushpilot1

Pinging a few names to this info.


15 posted on 02/05/2012 9:57:35 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Logical me

It started in public education. They’ve had several generations, now, to teach Americans that the only true ‘value’ is nondiscrimination. The Framers’ intent of NBC discriminates against people like Obama, therefor it is ‘wrong’. We now have a majority of the citizenry thinking like this. It can still be turned around, but it won’t be easy and it involves defeating RINOs in bulk.


16 posted on 02/05/2012 9:58:30 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Kansas58

Legislation does not trump the Constitution, however, and it’s there that your argument falls down.

The Constitutional term of art “natural-born citizen” is not a legislative construct and cannot be, it is a common law understanding based upon natural law, and one that has never had any bearing upon anything other than eligibility to the office of President, or Vice President as he or she must be Constitutionally eligible to serve in the capacity of President.

The only attempt you’ll ever find to legislate anything pertaining to natural-born citizenship will have occurred in 1790, via an Act which was itself stricken down and amended to remove any reference to natural-born, in 1795. The Legislative branch recognized their Constitutional inability to legislate additional meaning to the Constitutional term of art. Their Constitutional role is restricted to naturalization, regarding citizenship.

As a result, whatever was the intended meaning of “natural-born citizen” upon the ratification of that Constitution, remains the meaning today. The only conclusion that can be honestly reached is that the eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama is in doubt. The strength of historical citation and Supreme Court decisions rests more upon the strict interpretation of the term than the liberal one you tout.


17 posted on 02/05/2012 9:58:45 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: little jeremiah; LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; ...

Ping.............

Was there a problem..............??

Thanks, LJ.


18 posted on 02/05/2012 10:08:36 AM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Jefferson and Adams hated each other for several years.
Alexander Hamilton shot another Founder, in a dual.

Our Founders were not of one mind, and had different opinions on many issues.

Congress DOES have the right to interpret and define the Constitution.

Congress also has the right to determine the jurisdiction of the Courts -— including IMMIGRATION COURTS!

Your case, your arguments, are incredibly weak and have no chance of success, in the long run.


19 posted on 02/05/2012 10:08:57 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: little jeremiah

You’re probably right—I never put much credulity in these sorts of things—but who knows—one of ‘em could be right one time—LOL!


20 posted on 02/05/2012 10:10:29 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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