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Weekly Preppers' Thread
2/24/12 | Kartographer

Posted on 02/24/2012 10:02:25 AM PST by Kartographer

As promised this is the weekly preppers' thread for preppers' to share especially good buys, idea's, new equipment, methods etc.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: getreadyhereitcomes; getyourhouseinorder; preparedness; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; shtf; survivalping; weeklypreppersthread
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Now to start out many of you know that there has been some problems with the Berkey filters allowing unfiltered water to leak through the bases. Well I tested mine over last weekend and they pasted with FLYING COLORS! I used cherry Koolaide mix and poured it into the filter. I was very please not only was there not a hit of red coloring there was absoultly no cherry flavor or order to the filter water. So test to make sure, but it seems not every filter has the problem.
1 posted on 02/24/2012 10:02:33 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


2 posted on 02/24/2012 10:03:44 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Bump

Economic Risk: The Gasoline Wild Card

3 posted on 02/24/2012 10:29:54 AM PST by blam
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To: Kartographer
I'm *definitely* going to be testing my Berkey this weekend. Also, several of us are finally getting off our duffs and making a group ammo buy (long overdue).

One important aspect of prepping is building up a big pool of survival knowledge. I have a vast library of PDF files on everything from canning food to raising goats. This week I'm going to acquire one of these, so that no matter what all that knowledge stays at my fingertips:

http://www.solarmio.com/en/

4 posted on 02/24/2012 10:31:23 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Kartographer

Top off your gasoline supply now before prices get too high. Don’t forget to add stabilizer.


5 posted on 02/24/2012 10:33:02 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: The Duke
I have a vast library of PDF files

If the power grid went down or Hussein takes over the internet you won't be able to access those files. Better to have them printed out.

6 posted on 02/24/2012 10:36:09 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Kartographer

Bought a 95-year-old treadle sewing machine. Yea, still works. $175.


7 posted on 02/24/2012 10:37:33 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: bgill

pdfs can be stored locally on your hard drive or jump drive

no need for the internet


8 posted on 02/24/2012 10:40:12 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kartographer

http://www.lehmans.com/

This Ohio company sells to the Amish. Everything I’ve bought is good quality, good prices. While some of their oil lamps are Chinese, w/ equivalent prices, most of the merchandise is made in USA, some by the Amish.


9 posted on 02/24/2012 10:41:01 AM PST by tumblindice (He walks, he talks, he crawls on his belly like a reptile--The Fake American President)
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To: bgill; The Duke

True ‘hard’ copies are good. I was wondering can you read pdf files on a tablet? The news ones batteries last a good whille and I wouldn’t think it would take long to chrage them up using one of the many solar chargers with the ubs attachment.


10 posted on 02/24/2012 10:43:11 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

A tablet is a good thing to have for reading your reference materials, especially if you have the solar charger.


11 posted on 02/24/2012 10:48:32 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kartographer
Does anyone here have experience with solar photovoltaic roofing shingles?

Do they work as well as advertised?

12 posted on 02/24/2012 10:52:37 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: tumblindice

I have a Stirling engine I bought from Lehmans - not cheep, but a seriously cool piece of technology.


13 posted on 02/24/2012 10:58:34 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: MrB

“A” tablet?


14 posted on 02/24/2012 11:02:42 AM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: patton

I’ve been thinking of steam for powering various generators and such ... there are many manufacturers of the engines but there seems to be very little in the way of boiler manufacturers... comments?


15 posted on 02/24/2012 11:02:42 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Kartographer

I just ate napolitos with scrambled egg. I wasn’t sure I would like them but they are okay and I know where millions of prickly pear cactus live.


16 posted on 02/24/2012 11:07:03 AM PST by tiki
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To: Neidermeyer

Build a wood gas furnace, instead.

All of your existing gear will run off wood gas, without any conversion at all.


17 posted on 02/24/2012 11:10:03 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: Neidermeyer

I see that someone downthread already said this,

but look into a wood gasifier.

Get a natural gas powered generator and build/buy a wood gasifier and you have electricity.

start here: http://gekgasifier.com/


18 posted on 02/24/2012 11:15:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Darth Reardon

Do you mean I should have a specific brand of tablet, or multiple tablets?


19 posted on 02/24/2012 11:16:46 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: tiki

In a few weeks, the prickly pear cactus will be putting on fruit which makes great jelly if you’re into home canning. Also, can the juice.


20 posted on 02/24/2012 11:19:46 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Neidermeyer; MrB

This one makes me laugh - be sure to note the kids and the dog...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEH3CqGsVFM


21 posted on 02/24/2012 11:21:03 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: MrB

I was referring to the fact that you only mentioned having one.


22 posted on 02/24/2012 11:37:31 AM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Kartographer

I’ve been running gasoline through the food dehydrator. I have several coffee cans full of powdered gas now.


23 posted on 02/24/2012 11:48:58 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino

And apparently not wearing a mask when you do it.


24 posted on 02/24/2012 12:02:47 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: patton

That guy has one kickassifier...

What a stainless steel beauty.
I wonder if he built it or bought it.


25 posted on 02/24/2012 12:04:07 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: dinodino

Jokes aside, there is a desktop distiller “available” online.

I say it like that because it gets sold out every time it is replenished.


26 posted on 02/24/2012 12:05:19 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kartographer
I'm still finding 25 pound bags of Wheat Montana at my local Walmart. They are still under $13.00. On the down side, the Walmart bakery is no longer giving away buckets. Out of curiousity, how many oxygen absorbers do you use per bucket? I ordered Mylar bags to fit a five gallon bucket and they came with the exact same amount of absorbers as bags. I assumed one absorber per bag, but I'd like to make sure by asking a pro like you.
27 posted on 02/24/2012 12:06:34 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

1500 to 2000cc per 5 gallon bucket.

1500 for dense packed grains like rolled oats and wheat.
2000 for corn beans.

Now that you mention it about a year ago my local Walmart stopped giving away their buckets as well.


28 posted on 02/24/2012 12:15:24 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: MrB

It seems he sells them.


29 posted on 02/24/2012 12:16:42 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: patton

ah, but you can’t get prices unless you “become a member”...

That’s at http://www.victorygasifier.com, which is the website I saw at the vid.


30 posted on 02/24/2012 12:24:30 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: goodwithagun
Out of curiousity, how many oxygen absorbers do you use per bucket?

Here is a useful chart with recommended oxy absorbers to use for different size containers and different types of product.

While you are there check out theiir prices on 5 mil bags and oxy absorbers.

USA Emergency Supply

https://www.usaemergencysupply.com/emergency_supplies/oxygen_absorber_recommended_amounts.htm

Every reference I have seen says you cannot use too many - if you go over the recommended amount it doesn't hurt anything.

I did 5 gal buckets with 20 pounds of elbow macaroni using 2,000 cc oxy abs. in each and they came out rock hard.


31 posted on 02/24/2012 12:29:46 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Kartographer

Before and after pics - Queueing to grocery shop after the Japan tsunami. Just something to think about. Also, would the lines be so peaceful in the US?

32 posted on 02/24/2012 12:29:46 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Iron Munro; goodwithagun

Don’t buy 02 absorbers!

Wait until “hothands” go on sale. They’re the same thing - iron filings.


33 posted on 02/24/2012 12:31:39 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I just called them, after reading you post - they would not tell me on the phone, either.

Which creeps me out.

But I did find this part funny ...

We accept:

1.Cash
2.Check
3.Wire transfer
4.Gold Barter

5.Money Order

Due to security and privacy concerns we do not accept credit card payments.


34 posted on 02/24/2012 12:34:29 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: Iron Munro

There’s a couple sections in my Preparedness Manual with reconmendations and instructions for storing food buckets.

The manual can be downloaded here:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf


35 posted on 02/24/2012 12:46:58 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: patton

That’s pretty funny...

they want your email address, but credit cards bother them due to “privacy issues”.

I have it on good authority (Steven Harris of solar1234.com) that the GEKGasifier is a very good quality product and a good outfit to order from.

They have everything from free CAD plans to kits to assemble, to complete gasifiers, to gasifier + genset.
And their prices are right on the website.


36 posted on 02/24/2012 12:50:02 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: bgill

The stabilizer I bought is PRI-G. For barely twenty bucks plus, it does 516 gallons. More economical than Stable. Came on time with no problems.


37 posted on 02/24/2012 12:50:39 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: bgill

The stabilizer I bought is PRI-G. For barely twenty bucks plus, it does 516 gallons. More economical than Stable. Came on time with no problems.


38 posted on 02/24/2012 12:51:07 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Kartographer

My sister and I put together a binder. Each page list all supplies needed. When I get it I check it off. Tools, medicine, food prep, cooking, water, miscellaneous, seeds. Then we listed an inventory of food..what we have (checked) and what we still need. Then I printed off formulas for water purification, measurements translation, recipes, uses for.....vinegar, witch hazel. baking powder, etc.


39 posted on 02/24/2012 12:58:13 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Neidermeyer

Most states highly regulate steam boilers of all descriptions... Including special insurance to cover it and regular inspections...

There are lots of other options before coping with that...


40 posted on 02/24/2012 12:58:17 PM PST by DelaWhere (Better to be prepared one year early than one day late!)
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To: Kartographer

My sister and I put together a binder. Each page list all supplies needed. When I get it I check it off. Tools, medicine, food prep, cooking, water, miscellaneous, seeds. Then we listed an inventory of food..what we have (checked) and what we still need. Then I printed off formulas for water purification, measurements translation, recipes, uses for.....vinegar, witch hazel. baking powder, etc.


41 posted on 02/24/2012 12:58:17 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: MrB

Expensive, but more honest than the other guy.

Interesting, that it takes about 25#/hr to make 10 kva.


42 posted on 02/24/2012 12:59:24 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: patton

Just bought global sun oven. It came with pots, bread pans and dehydrator. Gets up to 350 to 400 degrees. Haven’t used it yet. Look easy to use. Only 22 pounds


43 posted on 02/24/2012 1:01:24 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: patton

Just bought global sun oven. It came with pots, bread pans and dehydrator. Gets up to 350 to 400 degrees. Haven’t used it yet. Look easy to use. Only 22 pounds


44 posted on 02/24/2012 1:01:42 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Link? Might want one for the cabin.


45 posted on 02/24/2012 1:03:44 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: patton

The thing is, you could power your house easily on a 3kw generator.
My plan is to get a smaller NG generator, around a 5kw (woodgas has less energy density than NG), and get the GEK kit and assemble it myself and hook it up to the NG generator.

The kits are much cheaper than the whole 10kw/20kw skids.


46 posted on 02/24/2012 1:08:08 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kartographer

Present! love this weekly thread! thanks you Mr. K.


47 posted on 02/24/2012 1:18:49 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: MrB

I have a 7350 at home, and a 3000 at the cabin - which is a joke, because the cabin has no lights ...

Still, it is useful for running my saws and the like.

somewhare on the web, I have seen plans for a gassifier you can build yourself, if you have the time.


48 posted on 02/24/2012 1:19:42 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: MrB

Here is an idea - run down to the local community college, and sign up for a welding class.

They will let you use a hot metal glue stick for the cost of a couple hundred bucks tuition, and you can build a gassifier as your term project.


49 posted on 02/24/2012 1:24:38 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: tumblindice

Great site. Thanks. Just Added to Favorites...


50 posted on 02/24/2012 1:25:22 PM PST by Paisan
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