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An ugly Air Force cover up: Quinton Keel not fired, but promoted and allowed to resign
coachisright.com ^ | March 9, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 03/09/2012 12:19:19 PM PST by jmaroneps37

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To: Joe the Pimpernel

So speakith the poster unable to answer direct questions....


51 posted on 03/09/2012 1:45:25 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

I serve in uniform.
What do you do except tell those of us who serve that we are trash to be thrown into a landfill?


52 posted on 03/09/2012 1:48:07 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Smelling ozone


53 posted on 03/09/2012 1:49:00 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Darksheare

Now now Dark, you will surely be accused of ‘bullying’ this poor gentle soul before long... you know, asking those uncomfortable questions and all... ;)


54 posted on 03/09/2012 1:49:44 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Well, I have been told that I have no heart.
*chuckle*
So that wouldn’t be anything new.


55 posted on 03/09/2012 1:51:13 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: DesertRhino

And when the lightning strikes and blows him into a digital red mist, we can just throw his ‘soup’ into the Great Porcelain Receptacle at Trollhenge...he won’t mind. He said so!


56 posted on 03/09/2012 1:52:24 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Joe the Pimpernel; Nifster

In many places it is against the law to do what Keel did.
It is considered Improper Disposal of Human Remains, and has varying penalties by jurisdiction.
There was a crematorium that was shut down due to similar behaviors.

But, you two go ahead and keep excusing an illegal activity.


57 posted on 03/09/2012 1:53:33 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare

I keep telling you, you need to find the guy and tune him up.


58 posted on 03/09/2012 1:56:08 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

And you keep defending him and refusing to explain your defense of it.


59 posted on 03/09/2012 1:57:55 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Just a big issue over a little tissue right?

Try not being a coward for a moment and answer this... WHY are you defending this idiot and his treatment of American soldier’s remains? Scientifically, morally, whatever. WHY?


60 posted on 03/09/2012 1:58:38 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
You ever seen an embalment?

Ever seen everything that gets washed down the drain?

Isn't that disrespectful too?

Shouldn't all the body fluids be captured and placed in the casket too?

61 posted on 03/09/2012 2:01:20 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Yup, I have actually. You? Not that it matters. I have also seen body parts fly in industrial accidents, a motorcyclist with his face ground off on the pavement and other medical horrors like my own guts.

I also see someone without the will or ability to back up his defense of a moron. I see a poster lacking the sense God gave Pissant that would allow him to differentiate between a funeral procedure and throwing human remains disrespectfully into a pile of rotting garbage - even if they are rotting themselves.

And I see a liberal spouting the ideas of a liberal that cannot come to terms with his own liberal ideals.


62 posted on 03/09/2012 2:06:22 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
So flushing humans remains down the drain is fine.

Glad we got that straightened out.

63 posted on 03/09/2012 2:08:13 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Context...BTW, you didn’t answer the question.


64 posted on 03/09/2012 2:09:32 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Selective enforcement of your principles, more like.


65 posted on 03/09/2012 2:10:47 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel
I learned a long time ago you can’t argue with ignorance.

Since ignorance appears to be your only tool, I suppose that you're just going to have to use it. (Thanks for confirming that you are arguing with ignorance rather than with coherent thoughts.)

66 posted on 03/09/2012 2:12:14 PM PST by Bob
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Well I have been called the arbitrator of all that’s good and just, so mine aren’t the principles with problems.

BTW, you still haven’t answered the question. Why is that?


67 posted on 03/09/2012 2:13:28 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Joe the Pimpernel
Since Jul 10, 2011

I’m shocked.....


68 posted on 03/09/2012 2:16:41 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

No need to question... I would be one of the contributors. All I did was ask because some of these remains were not even siftable. I just know that each memorial that has been contracted to be built to memorialize 9/11 has turned into a governmetn and bureaucratic nightmare. I suppose I put in excessive question marks precisely because I have gotten soooo frustrated with the long drawn out plan and revise and the ever increasing accomodation of the “Muslims” who died that day too...

Sorry that was way too long a rant.

Trust me I wish we could have just had a memorial plot with marker as you suggested


69 posted on 03/09/2012 2:38:13 PM PST by Nifster
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To: RitchieAprile

thank you....I like your suggestions very much


70 posted on 03/09/2012 2:39:01 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Darksheare

You know nothing of my world....you know nothing of my veneration of the Tomb of the Unknown or the row upon row of fallen warriors at various landing points for D-Day or the watery graves of those aboard ship on Dec 7. I do not know if you have been to each of those places ( and many more battlefields where the US has fought and brave men died), but I have


71 posted on 03/09/2012 2:42:09 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Darksheare

I did not avoid your post. Unlike you who seem to have copious time to post. I get to post on my lunch hour or after work....which by the way is spent making sure that our most precious resource is well guarded and defended ( and I do in fact mean the US military men and women)


72 posted on 03/09/2012 2:45:50 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Darksheare

Jimminy Cricket.... I made NO exucses for anyone, I used to many question marks for a legitamate question. Talk about getting your knockers in a bunch. You would have thought that I praised the guy who did this and nominated him for sainthood.


73 posted on 03/09/2012 2:48:08 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Darksheare

Quit saying I am making excuses. You continue to rant when no one is responding to you. I get it you are all het up. Be that as it may you are so far over the top .... Think of me what you will, you know nothing of me or my fanily or our service to this country. You have no clue as to what I feel about servicemen and their familites.....please spare me your righteous indignation. None is needed or deserved


74 posted on 03/09/2012 2:51:30 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Be cool man. Your original post seemed to be somewhat callous and uncaring. And then you disappeared. You have explained yourself. So please try not to turn this into a more ugly fight.


75 posted on 03/09/2012 2:55:42 PM PST by bigheadfred (ev'ry day i'm shufflin')
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To: Darksheare

It’s dishonorable to the memory of the SMs who died serving their country. Nobody’s asking for bronze statues to be erected for each individual, just that they treat their remains, whatever their condition, with a modicum of respect.


76 posted on 03/09/2012 3:22:37 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Joe the Pimpernel; Darksheare; Gene Eric

Joe, if you have dealt with dead bodies so much that you have lost all sense of decency and respect maybe it is time for a career change.

I always thought the purpose of an embalmment was so there could be some type of memorial service held without the body exploding. Which seems a lot like respectful care.

In my mind all the people who die in service to this country, in defending ME, should be shown all the honor and respect we can muster. No matter the condition of those remains.

We live in a society now that promotes and awards ignorance and stupidity. And this brings us Gen. Norton Schwartz.

You certainly deserve an award.

And when it comes to the disposal of your final remains...

“MAY THE SCHWARTZ BE WITH YOU!”


77 posted on 03/09/2012 3:30:46 PM PST by bigheadfred (ev'ry day i'm shufflin')
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To: FreeAtlanta
He must have something on someone.

If he had been active duty, I would have asked if he graduated from one of the Academies or if his dad had , or if his dad was somebody special.

Things are so screwed up these days with the military, across all branches. There is a Navy officer being considered for promotion to Rear Admiral, who in his flying days deliberately fired on another manned US military aircraft and shot it down. Meanwhile, Navy officers who have done much less are routinely punished. There are Marine officers who are punished for looking out for their men while others who disregard the safety of their men are left alone.
78 posted on 03/09/2012 3:51:06 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Norm Lenhart
Since Jul 10, 2011

You lost that argument.

79 posted on 03/09/2012 4:12:58 PM PST by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: bigheadfred; Norm Lenhart; Joe the Pimpernel; Darksheare; Gene Eric

Joe, would you piss on your mother’s corpse?


80 posted on 03/09/2012 4:18:26 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: TankerKC

How so? Some short timer comes on a conservative board spouting liberal BS straight out of DU and “I” lost the argument when he won’t answer a single question any of us put to him?

I don’t think so.


81 posted on 03/09/2012 4:20:02 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: bigheadfred

Thanks. Sometimes I need to be reminded to breathe. I goofed up with my untamable fingers and they way they type sometimes. I officially do a mea culpa for all those who misunderstood my original post. I really am not that callous or cruel.


82 posted on 03/09/2012 4:33:52 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Hey we all make mistakes....happened to me once. I was three at the time ;)


83 posted on 03/09/2012 4:39:09 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

;) Thanks I needed a cheer me up....


84 posted on 03/09/2012 5:01:31 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yeah, when you are that far into a conversation and throw the “membership date” card, you lose.


85 posted on 03/09/2012 6:20:32 PM PST by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: TankerKC

Yea, when a poster pulls the lib BS and refuses to answer direct questions from several others on the thread, they lose. When someone points out the fact they are a trolling newb, that does not wipe out a dozen instances of trollhood. He a buddy of yours or do you support his assertions?

But you just go on hazzing your happy and pretend I’ll feel ‘chastized’ by your wisdom....


86 posted on 03/09/2012 7:21:29 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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87 posted on 03/10/2012 12:29:47 AM PST by LucyT
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To: Darksheare; jmaroneps37
Punishment for him should fit the crime.
Bury him in a landfill.

Alive or dead?

88 posted on 03/10/2012 8:27:57 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative; jmaroneps37

Make him wish he was dead.
So he can feel empathy for those he victimized.


89 posted on 03/10/2012 1:07:29 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Nifster

“You continue to rant when no one is responding to you.”

You said something that sounded like you were tossing a thread bomb out there and then you vanished.
Then some other jerk showed up and started trolling.
You’ll note that the pings to you also had another name attached.

As for righteous indignation and sparing it, no.
The facts of this case are that several identifiable bodies of our soldiers were cremated and tossed out at a landfill like so many used diapers rather than given the proper by the regs burial.
Many of the bodies weren’t unidentified.
The only one possibly not ID’d were those from 9/11.
It is illegal to improperly dispose fo human remains.
So even if they were ‘dust and chips’, dumping them in a landfill was illegal.

Hope that helps some.


90 posted on 03/10/2012 1:12:40 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare

Thank you for the gentle clarification. I realized way too late that my initial post had the look and feel of either some brain dead idiot or a democrat ( oh but I repeat myself). I again offer my apologies and a heart felt mea culpa. Having a really odd work schedule seems at times to keep me from responding in a timely manner. I need to a) be more diligent in how I post ( though sometimes my foggy brain thinks it is doing it right) and b) I should save interesting posts for after I get home then I can respond sooner

Thank you to all who were concerned enough to want to protect even the remains of those who gave all. We have the same heart.


91 posted on 03/11/2012 6:28:59 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

It was the weekend.
Stuff always flares up on the weekends.

I myself got a little touchy because I am currently serving, and am set to deploy in November -unless Panetta and Obama decide we aren’t- and I get somewhat grouchy about military related stuff.
Thanks, and welcome!


92 posted on 03/12/2012 10:18:50 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare

Thank you for your service. It is folks like you who keep me free.... and ever grateful


93 posted on 03/12/2012 11:16:37 AM PDT by Nifster
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