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Conservatives, Republicans: Fire, Aim, Ready!
WingRight.org ^ | April 12, 2012 | Beverly Nuckols, MD (hocndoc)

Posted on 04/12/2012 8:09:43 AM PDT by hocndoc

Conservatives are at it again: shooting our own.

When Conservatives decide not to vote for Republican candidates, Republicans lose. Conservatives lose. The Democrats, socialists, and atheists win. Obama wins.

Where Republicans voted in 2008, we won new offices. Where they voted in 2010, we won majorities. Conservatives made the difference in the winning races and in the lost races. Not only did we have fewer Republican victories in those races where Conservatives didn't vote, the races were decided by the least knowledgeable among us or by the Dems.

More than before, in conservative blogs and forums, I'm reading good men and women declare that they will never vote for Romney if he's nominated. They remind me that they were the ones who refused to vote for John McCain in 2008, or who (like me) voted for Sarah Palin and McCain just benefited as a side effect.

I certainly wish that Conservatives had found themselves working hard to force McCain to keep his promises for that last three years instead of watching Obama keep his.

And here come the third party rallies!

The problem is certainly the "GOP elite," and their support for Romney -- that's why Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum couldn't get a foothold, right? And why Newt Gingrich is still so far behind?

How many votes do you suppose the "elite" have, anyway?

Talk about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, yesterday, Rush Limbaugh warned Conservatives what may happen if the Republican nominee doesn't win. Yes, he titled the post of the segment "A Warning to the Republican Establishment," ending with a prediction that the Republican Party might never recover if "they screw this up."

The warning to the rest of us is ignored:

If this doesn't pan out to big-time electoral victory the way the establishment has it figured, then what will their excuse be? And I think I know. I think that if this campaign goes on and if it results in Obama winning, I think what the establishment is going to do is blame us. They're gonna blame us conservatives for once again being too rigid and too demanding and too narrow and unrealistic and all this, and telling us that we're the reason that Obama won.

Why not? That's exactly what happened in '06 and '08. (And don't forget Rush's own Chaos.) The media and the Left ate it up! The lesson learned was that no one can count on Conservatives. That's why we repeatedly watch people who should be our champions "pander" (Rush's word) to the "middle," the "undecideds," the independents.

Why not learn instead from successes, like the 2000 election, a victory that the Dems never saw coming? A good friend recommended that I re-read David Horowitz' "How to Beat the Democrats." One of the lessons is,

Lesson 3: There Is No Natural Conservative Majority (But You Can Create One through Political Action). The critical role Republican unity played in the election leads to a third lesson: There is no “natural” conservative majority.
. . . Such facts are no cause for conservatives to despair. What they are is a reality-check. If the conservative mission is to restore basic American values, the way conservatives fight the political battle will determine its outcome. There may be no current conservative majority in America, but there is a potential majority, if Republicans have the will and intelligence to create one.
David Horowitz (2002-10-06). How to Beat the Democrats and Other Subversive Ideas (Kindle Locations 842-843, 861-863). Spence. Kindle Edition.

Do we have the will? The intelligence? Can we forget the animosity we have had for each other the last year? Are we willing to say, "Let him who never had a change of heart cast the first stone?"

An estimated 56% - give or take - of the Republican National delegates have been decided, but 44% have not. The numbers aren't set in stone, yet, depending on what happens to the delegates who went to candidates that dropped out or in States like Iowa, where the actual choice will be made at caucus in June. "It ain't over till it's over."

I'm sure that I won't see Conservative blogs pulling their anti-Romney posts, but I hope to see a few willing to be positive and work together to ensure Primary victories for the remaining Conservative in the Republican Primary, in order to deny Romney an easy nomination. Is their motto, "Anybody but Romney," or is it, "Anybody but Obama?"


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If this is my FR swan song, my opus, so be it. That's not my intention.
1 posted on 04/12/2012 8:09:53 AM PDT by hocndoc
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To: hocndoc

Well.... I can’t even tell what you said. So you’ve got that going for you.


2 posted on 04/12/2012 8:11:58 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: hocndoc

I’m still not sure how conservatives win by voting for liberals.


3 posted on 04/12/2012 8:13:25 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: hocndoc

I read a stunning voter analysis once

It showed that democrap voting is very consistant- they always get just about the exact same turnout, every election.

So when republican turnout is strong, they lose
When Republicans stay how we lose

SO GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!

Write-in Palin if you cannot hold your nose and vote for Romney, but DO NOT STAY HOME!!! A GOP majority in Congress is more important this election

Besides, I would almost rather see Obama stuck with a VETO-PROOF GOP majority to cram health care down his throat, then a Romney democrap-lite presidency with a GOP congress giving him everything he wants just because he is GOP

And Rmney has not said he will repeal Obamacare- only “the more onerous parts of it” (he said it on Hannity, and even Hnnity missed it.


4 posted on 04/12/2012 8:17:06 AM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: hocndoc; Jim Robinson; humblegunner; stevie_d_64; eastforker; lentulusgracchus; Ms. AntiFeminazi; ..

Just a plea for unity.


5 posted on 04/12/2012 8:17:10 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: hocndoc

‘Conservatives are at it again: shooting our own.’

ORomney is a democrat, not a republican. He’s not one of ‘our own’.

‘When Conservatives decide not to vote for Republican candidates, Republicans lose. Conservatives lose. The Democrats, socialists, and atheists win. Obama wins.’

The ‘logic’ escapes me. He’s not a republican and his agenda is little different than Barry’s. Either way the country is harmed. For sure ORomney isn’t about to mess w/ anything Barry has done and he’s quite likely to add to them. So, how is voting for one any different than the other??? I think its all about party not country. If ORomney is elected the joy will be short lived...


6 posted on 04/12/2012 8:18:01 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: hocndoc
I will end up holding my nose in this election, but to say that conservatives settling for moderates in the past have been 'successes' I'd encourage you to think again.

Under both parties this train has been heading in only one direction - towards centralized socialism. The best we can hope for with the current apparent nominee is a temporary deceleration. Lets not pretend otherwise.

7 posted on 04/12/2012 8:18:29 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: hocndoc

To anyone refusing to vote for mittens (i.e., against Obama) .....

What would it take for you to support the ticket? Who would have to be VP? Anyone particular?


8 posted on 04/12/2012 8:19:44 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: hocndoc

It seems to come down to this. Romney is running on a conservative platform, but some/many conservatives don’t believe him and think he’s a liar who will govern as a liberal.

It is just my guess he would not swing from conservative to liberal positions. People can disagree.

Looking at the platforms of the two candidates Obama/Romney it is night and day.

Obama is all in on leftism at this point. If reelected it will be a nightmare.


9 posted on 04/12/2012 8:19:52 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: hocndoc
Since '88 the GOPe has given us weak candidates that either lose because everyone sees them for the squishes that they are (Dole, McCain, Romney...) or when they do win they do not deliver as promised (2010 as an example).

Why should I continue to support a party that continually fails due to lack of effort?

10 posted on 04/12/2012 8:21:21 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1/21/2009)
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To: hocndoc

Interesting.

Well, I’ll vote for Santorum when it gets o CA but it will be all over but the shouting.

This year, I sit out. They want me back? Stop pandering and holding noses. No more fear voting for me.

Santorum 2012


11 posted on 04/12/2012 8:21:43 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: hocndoc

Everyone is leaving out the main factor. The ‘establishment’ has no power and we wouldnt get rinos if it werent for millions of people empowering them. We cant blame anyone but ourselves for that. Time for a new activism strategy, not aimed at politicians but at the people.


12 posted on 04/12/2012 8:22:18 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: 556x45; skeeter

I took clothes pins to the Texas Republican Convention in 2008.

As I said, I’d rather have spent the last 3 years holding McCain - and Sarah Palin - to his promises than watching Obama keep his.


13 posted on 04/12/2012 8:22:56 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: skeeter

There is zero doubt about it that Romney is not a conservative. I think everyone can agree on that. To compare him to Obama however is f&cking stupid. Never in the history of the country have we had an administration that is dead set on destroying the American way of life. Obama is not a socialist, he is a Marxist and he HATES this country.

If you don’t want to vote for the republican nominee, no problem, but don’t be so shallow that you think that Romney and Obama are the same person.


14 posted on 04/12/2012 8:24:17 AM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: Mr. K
A GOP majority in Congress is more important this election

We have a GOP majority in congress now and to date they have done NOTHING!

15 posted on 04/12/2012 8:24:36 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1/21/2009)
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To: al_c

I actually have had a change of heart and will vote for Romney after saying for a year I would not. I am really voting anyone but 0bama.

I would like to see West/Palin/Bachmann/Cain for VP. I don’t like Santorum or Gingrich either.


16 posted on 04/12/2012 8:27:10 AM PDT by Patrsup (To stubborn to change now)
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To: Drill Thrawl

They have passed and sent dozens of bills to the senate where Harry Reid just tables them and unilaterally prevents them from being voted on.


17 posted on 04/12/2012 8:27:24 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: hocndoc
As a Californian I have cause to be a little more cynical - after the last governor's administration I believe the state would be in exactly the same condition had Arnold not won.

That said, I believe Obama is a literal Enemy of the State and I WILL vote against him.

18 posted on 04/12/2012 8:27:50 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: DaveyB

Apparently, the conservative movement and the moderates within the Republican Part as well have so little patience that they can’t learn that this overwhelming majority has to be BUILT. You can’t just expect everything to be just like you want it - right now! You can’t expect the perfect candidate, the landslide victory, the flawless administration; that’s not reality. What you do have to do is PULL TOGETHER toward BUILDING A BASE from which to BUILD A CONCRETE FUTURE, and then keep building. Unlike the Republican majority of the early 90’s, you do not have the luxury of relaxation. The committment has to be 110%, and it has to be for 110% of the time for all time. Throwing a little temper-tantrum ‘cause you didn’t get immediate gratification speaks directly to maturity and committment.


19 posted on 04/12/2012 8:27:50 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: mnehring

Exactly!
I’m still seeing calls to vote for candidates that have dropped out, rather than a rally behind Gingrich.

Half the delegates are still up for grabs!


20 posted on 04/12/2012 8:27:50 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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