Conservatives are at it again: shooting our own. Posted on 04/12/2012 8:09:43 AM PDT by hocndoc
Conservatives are at it again: shooting our own.
When Conservatives decide not to vote for Republican candidates, Republicans lose. Conservatives lose. The Democrats, socialists, and atheists win. Obama wins.
Where Republicans voted in 2008, we won new offices. Where they voted in 2010, we won majorities. Conservatives made the difference in the winning races and in the lost races. Not only did we have fewer Republican victories in those races where Conservatives didn't vote, the races were decided by the least knowledgeable among us or by the Dems.
More than before, in conservative blogs and forums, I'm reading good men and women declare that they will never vote for Romney if he's nominated. They remind me that they were the ones who refused to vote for John McCain in 2008, or who (like me) voted for Sarah Palin and McCain just benefited as a side effect.
I certainly wish that Conservatives had found themselves working hard to force McCain to keep his promises for that last three years instead of watching Obama keep his.
And here come the third party rallies!
The problem is certainly the "GOP elite," and their support for Romney -- that's why Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum couldn't get a foothold, right? And why Newt Gingrich is still so far behind?
How many votes do you suppose the "elite" have, anyway?
Talk about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, yesterday, Rush Limbaugh warned Conservatives what may happen if the Republican nominee doesn't win. Yes, he titled the post of the segment "A Warning to the Republican Establishment," ending with a prediction that the Republican Party might never recover if "they screw this up."
The warning to the rest of us is ignored:
If this doesn't pan out to big-time electoral victory the way the establishment has it figured, then what will their excuse be? And I think I know. I think that if this campaign goes on and if it results in Obama winning, I think what the establishment is going to do is blame us. They're gonna blame us conservatives for once again being too rigid and too demanding and too narrow and unrealistic and all this, and telling us that we're the reason that Obama won.
Why not? That's exactly what happened in '06 and '08. (And don't forget Rush's own Chaos.) The media and the Left ate it up! The lesson learned was that no one can count on Conservatives. That's why we repeatedly watch people who should be our champions "pander" (Rush's word) to the "middle," the "undecideds," the independents.
Why not learn instead from successes, like the 2000 election, a victory that the Dems never saw coming? A good friend recommended that I re-read David Horowitz' "How to Beat the Democrats." One of the lessons is,
Lesson 3: There Is No Natural Conservative Majority (But You Can Create One through Political Action). The critical role Republican unity played in the election leads to a third lesson: There is no “natural” conservative majority.
. . . Such facts are no cause for conservatives to despair. What they are is a reality-check. If the conservative mission is to restore basic American values, the way conservatives fight the political battle will determine its outcome. There may be no current conservative majority in America, but there is a potential majority, if Republicans have the will and intelligence to create one.
David Horowitz (2002-10-06). How to Beat the Democrats and Other Subversive Ideas (Kindle Locations 842-843, 861-863). Spence. Kindle Edition.
Do we have the will? The intelligence? Can we forget the animosity we have had for each other the last year? Are we willing to say, "Let him who never had a change of heart cast the first stone?"
An estimated 56% - give or take - of the Republican National delegates have been decided, but 44% have not. The numbers aren't set in stone, yet, depending on what happens to the delegates who went to candidates that dropped out or in States like Iowa, where the actual choice will be made at caucus in June. "It ain't over till it's over."
I'm sure that I won't see Conservative blogs pulling their anti-Romney posts, but I hope to see a few willing to be positive and work together to ensure Primary victories for the remaining Conservative in the Republican Primary, in order to deny Romney an easy nomination. Is their motto, "Anybody but Romney," or is it, "Anybody but Obama?"
The “estabs” each have one vote. Until now, we’ve been splitting our Conservative vote, and turning our energies against each other.
Half of the delegates are still undecided. All of the Conservative Senate and House Candidates need our support.
I’m calling for a Conservative coalition, from this point forward.
Do you have an opportunity to reform your State Republican Party? The problem in Virginia was the requirements for getting on the ballot, written or declared by the Party.
Two party system is done broke. They are so obviously working together...in cahoots...corrupted. Need to shake things up so if the Constitution Party or the Tea Party or whatever gets off the ground I think they will find a lot of support.
“Just a plea for unity”
Funny, I don`t remember that plea from the estabs when Romney was spreading his toxic waste lies all over the landscape vs. the conservative contenders.
You obviously have conservatives confused with Republicans. Lately that is not the same thing. To a Conservitive, voting for Romney is also a loss. In fact, it can and very liklely will be MORE of a loss than voting for Obama. At least with Obama, conservatives can oppose through the House and Senate. You can’t do that and it wont happen if the President is from your party.
Since there is little difference between Obama and Romney, I’d rather 4 years of Obama than 8 years of Romney.
“Excellent point and analysis!
I will also be considering that would I rather vote for someone
who can’t get re-elected and thus no longer cares what
the public opinion of him is or someone who is somewhat
guarded because they want a second four years. I think I
know which one is a somewhat safer choice.”
Another excellent point!
The problem with Romney’s slower rate than Obama is that if he gets elected, he will likely have 8 years to work on it. At least Obama can be held to 4 years.
Sorry, fork. I am not a moderator. And even if I was I would not zot the doc.
Not sure what fears you have that lead to you to that “knnepad” remark. But I guess you felt very threatened in some small minded way that I actually “agreed” with doc and her feelings that she was making her opus with her very unpopular ‘Repubs First’ ideas.
“And here come the third party rallies!”
Damn right!!! WTH did those complacent fools expect?
About as many delegates as it has Rinos.
Another from Mama: You can’t change what the other guy does, only what you do.
You can honestly say that with a straight face??? You would rather live under the current Marxist racist in chief along with his AG and other minions he has appointed? Sorry, I do not understand your rational.
The GOP gave a big FU to their base... Again. Time for them to go the way of the Dodo bird.
Time for the Tea Party to become the next Conservative Party.
Hi hocndoc,
Romney is not a conservative. Moreover, he has a radical pro-abortion record. I am a pro-life, religious conservative.
I hope you understand that I am not ABLE to support him. His record is so contrary to my beliefs, that it would require me to go reject my religion in order to support Romney.
Please remain open to campaigning for a 3rd party...a conservative candidate...so that we don’t give a greater foothold to the forces of darkness.
Thanks for listening.
Xzins
The choice is:
How much damage can Obama do in the remaining 4 years
vs
How much damage will Romney do in 8 years
When there is not much difference between the to, get Obama out after 4 is the better option.
with her very unpopular ‘Repubs First’ ideas.
Unpopular to who?? You or the owner of this site?
I’m voting for Gingrich, if he’s still on the ballot.
He’s definitely got problem or two, but I remember his work with the Tea Party in Texas in 2010, the “Contract from America.”
Half the delegates are still undecided.
That kind of logic, is precisely why we are where we are today.
And, your 50-50 odds are too generous by about 49%.
I appreciate the bumps, but wish we could spend our energies finding common ground.
My state has already voted.
Gingrich has a solid pro-life background and has been outspoken about his continued pro-life beliefs.
He is clearly ready to step into the presidency right now.
He has a proven record of governing as a conservative.
I can support him.
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