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"Journalist" attempst to compare my books to the Turner Diaries
Western Rifle Shooters Association ^ | April 13, 2012 | Matt Bracken

Posted on 04/13/2012 3:36:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

Dear Mr. Bracken,

My name is J.M. Berger. I’m a journalist working on a story about the EFAD trilogy for the Daily Beast. I was wondering if you’d have a few minutes to discuss the book between Thursday and Sunday via phone or email. (My deadline is Monday and I am out of the office most of today.)

I can be reached at this address or at 202-656-XXXX any time starting tomorrow morning.

Best,

J.M.

— On Thu, 4/12/12, Matt Bracken wrote:

From: Matt Bracken

Subject: Re: Media query, #EFAD

To: “J.M. Berger”

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 8:10 AM

Sure, I can do that. It’s now 8am Thursday and I’ll be off the grid until later this afternoon, but we can set up a call for anytime after that.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:13 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

Any time this afternoon or after is fine with me. Just let me know, or just call when it’s convenient.

Thanks very much,

JM

— On Thu, 4/12/12, Matt Bracken wrote:

From: Matt Bracken Subject: Re: Media query, #EFADTo: “J.M. Berger”

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 8:48 AM

If you would prefer, we can use written Q&A format. Or, you could shoot me some questions that I could consider prior to a phone interview. In any case, I’ll be out of range until later this afternoon.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

I’m mainly interested in understanding the role you see the book playing for the Patriot movement (entertainment or educational or inspirational, etc.), and how the book reflects (or doesn’t) your own political views.

I’d also like to talk about the inevitable comparison to “The Turner Diaries.” I didn’t think the comparison was inevitable after Book One, but it’s difficult to avoid by the end of Book Three. I’m interested in what you think of Turner, whether you set out intentionally to modify or improve on what it represents, and what role you think racial politics play in the modern Patriot movement.

JM

— On Thu, 4/12/12, Matt Bracken wrote:

From: Matt Bracken Subject: Re: Media query, #EFADTo: “J.M. Berger”

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 9:20 AM

Did you actually read all three novels? Every page? I’m probably going to punt on this interview if your point is to compare my work to the racist screed the Turner Diaries.

Assuming you will say that you did read all three novels, I’m guessing you are comparing FEAT to TTD based on bad actions by black characters in and around Memphis. Do you honestly think that after major earthquakes cut off W. TN (no water, no power etc), folks will all join across racial lines to sing kumbaya? There would be no racial element? Such a plot would be laughably unrealistic and PC. And do you find the murderously evil white vigilantes in FEAT to be portrayed sympathetically? Another “Turner Diaries?” Really? And did you miss the catharsis in racial feelings by Jenny?

I mean, seriously, did you read the damn novel, or skim it, or possibly just read the excerpts on my website?

If you have not read, (I mean, really read), all three novels, then forget it. Get back to me when you have.

And in any case, forget a phone interview. I can see already how that would go, when your “notes” become written words in your essay. Been there, done that, still got the scars, pal. Submit written Q&A only is how this will go, if it goes at all. My trust-o-meter is pegging the redline. My trust in “journalists” after a few decades dealing with them is below used car salesmen and hookers. I’ve given interviews, and seen my words turned via the magical process of “notes” into damnable lies. Fool me once, etc.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

I read all three novels. These are the reasons I think it’s valid to compare and contrast:

1) Both books are predicated around revolution/resistance tied to the seizure of guns,

2) The Memphis section of the third book clearly echoes the content of the Turner Diaries. My opinion about the credibility of anything you described is entirely irrelevant to that point unless you’re arguing from a belief that black cannibalism is a realistically inevitable outcome of the breakdown of society or an unavoidable literary imperative of some kind.

3) Nevertheless, you seem to be approaching racial content in a markedly different way than Pierce. This is also a valid point for comparison and contrast, which is not the same as saying the two books are equal or equivalent.

4) Since you asked, my view is that the breakthrough that Jenny experiences is an awfully weak counterweight against the Memphis stuff. I plan on acknowledging its presence, and the other factors you included as counterweights, but I think it’s appropriate to discuss it in context. The balance in Book 3 is clearly much different from Book 1.

I can understand your wanting to clearly distinguish your book from Turner, but I frankly don’t understand your outrage over the comparison. I think it’s pretty obvious and valid why one would discuss these two books together. To acknowledge the commonalities is not to equate the books on the basis of racial politics, writing or anything else.

So for some actual questions. I’ll start with these, and if you’re still willing to continue, I will send more.

1) Did you set out to do a political book in the form of a novel, or did you set out to write a novel that simply has political elements?

2) Did you consciously set out to write something that would be a non-racist or at least less racial alternative to The Turner Diaries as a text for the Patriot movement?

3) Would you describe yourself as part of the Patriot movement or as part of some other political wave?

4) Do you feel that the Patriot movement has historically had a racist component? Do you think it needs to change in this respect? If so, why?

Thanks for considering this request.

JM

From: Matt Bracken

To: J.M. Berger

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:57 PM

Subject: Re: Media query, #EFAD

Mr Berger,

Let me take your approach for just a moment.

When did you stop beating your wife and children in drunken rages? Since we know that most journalists are drunken louts who beat their wives and kids, right?

Truthfully, most of the self-described “journalists” I have dealt with personally have been smarmy, lying SOBs, and I see you are typical of the breed.

AMF.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Government; Society; Weird Stuff
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To: Darren McCarty

Heh - laughed, and stopped, at the bit where 15% of the investigated group was FBI operatives. That’s not infiltration, that’s approaching takeover.


81 posted on 04/13/2012 6:26:10 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: MestaMachine; Travis McGee
anyone can call themselves an intel analyst, journalist, etc. dude sounds smug to me....
" I specialize in explaining complex subjects for ordinary readers, including business, science and technology, and terrorism"

82 posted on 04/13/2012 6:30:05 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: Travis McGee
(Can I still say china shop? Is that racist?)

That is still OK as far as I know. However, "chink in the armor" has recently been thrown out for a lack of diversity.

Apparently the #EFAD campaign worked. Congrats Matt. Hope the entire trilogy is on the million seller list by June.

FReegards

83 posted on 04/13/2012 6:32:33 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: MestaMachine

He’s mentioned the Turner Diaries 25 times on his blog between 2004 and 2010.

Seems obsessed. Hopefully not in the same vein as was a famous obsession with Helter Skelter.


84 posted on 04/13/2012 6:33:02 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: HonkyTonkMan
I'll bet in his past he's been a Double Naught Spy, just like Jethro.
85 posted on 04/13/2012 6:33:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Eaker

I wish I was fishing this weekend.

I’m sure he’ll read your tagline when he’s entering us all into his DNSIWDTDB.

(Double Naught Spy Intel Wire Domestic Terrorism Data Base.)


86 posted on 04/13/2012 6:36:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
"Didn’t they drum into our heads to assault through an ambush?"

A near ambush, yes. For far ambush: lift, shift, flank, or something else that would work given scenario, terrain, etc.


87 posted on 04/13/2012 6:38:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: HonkyTonkMan

"I specialize in explaining complex subjects for ordinary readers, including business, science and technology, and terrorism"

88 posted on 04/13/2012 6:38:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Near ambush: run through as fast as possible while firing.


89 posted on 04/13/2012 6:40:15 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: HonkyTonkMan
"See, I got them racists all figured out. That's why I'm a Double Naught Spy."

1) Did you set out to do a political book in the form of a novel, or did you set out to write a novel that simply has political elements?

2) Did you consciously set out to write something that would be a non-racist or at least less racial alternative to The Turner Diaries as a text for the Patriot movement?

3) Would you describe yourself as part of the Patriot movement or as part of some other political wave?

4) Do you feel that the Patriot movement has historically had a racist component? Do you think it needs to change in this respect? If so, why?

Thanks for considering this request.

JM

90 posted on 04/13/2012 6:42:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Rebelbase
He’s mentioned the Turner Diaries 25 times on his blog between 2004 and 2010. Seems obsessed. Hopefully not in the same vein as was a famous obsession with Helter Skelter.

It must have been painful for him to read 1,700 words about defending the Constitution, just to strain out a dozen pages of racial conflict, to fit the trilogy into his template.

91 posted on 04/13/2012 6:45:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: skeeter
...Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction...

In case anyone's forgotten, the entire civilized world agreed in the late 1990's that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Also, Saddam Hussein proved he had WMD; he was accused of having them, he was tried for using them, he was convicted of using them, and, in the end, he was hanged for using them.

...Democratic president can be dragged into impeachment for sexual misdemeanors ...

Ummm, no. He was dragged into impeachment for perjury, and had his law license suspended for it.

92 posted on 04/13/2012 6:46:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

Make that 1,700 pages, not words, in the trilogy.

(1,700 words is a pretty good effort for a “journalist,” though.)


93 posted on 04/13/2012 6:47:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: HonkyTonkMan
"" I specialize in explaining complex subjects for ordinary readers, including business, science and technology, and terrorism""


"That's like calling an Ice Cream Man a dairy specialist"

94 posted on 04/13/2012 6:47:56 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: familyop

Good point.


95 posted on 04/13/2012 6:49:21 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

Drop him off on Tilden and yell “Look! It’s Zimmerman’s lawyer!”


96 posted on 04/13/2012 6:56:04 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: Liberty Valance

Thanks, I hope so too. Or even July.


97 posted on 04/13/2012 6:56:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
the presstitutes are sooooo predictable...
98 posted on 04/13/2012 6:57:34 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee
You would think he would have started his research there.

I looked over his stuff on his web site, and made a connection I had not made earlier.

This was found on links there to Fox reports, and one of them mentioned that Anwar Nasser Alaqi was a speaker at a "Justice for Imam Jamil al-Amin" rally at 5:30 PM on Sept 9, 2001 at the Bren Events Center at UC Ervine.

I know of the Imam by a different name: H. 'Rap' Brown, a fellow who was intimately involved in inciting the riots which burned large portions of Cambridge MD back when. One of the students at my High School was busted by the FBI for running with that crowd.

Now here, in plain sight, is the connection between the Black Panthers, through a former leader with Al Qaida.

Add in jailhouse Islam, and the circle gets tighter.

Hiding in plain sight, deflecting query with cries of 'racism', we have a connection between two terrorist groups.

99 posted on 04/13/2012 6:58:32 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Rebelbase; Travis McGee
y'all on a roll tonight! Great job sniffing out the "bull in a china shop."
this "ordinary reader" reads Bracken.
100 posted on 04/13/2012 6:58:32 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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