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Former Vatican Ambassadors, pro-family advocates misrepresent Romney record on defense of marriage
Boston Catholic Insider ^ | 10 Jan 12 | BostonCatholic

Posted on 05/10/2012 7:42:43 PM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins

So, you’d rather have another 4 years of Obamalamadingdong.

Is that your final answer?


41 posted on 05/10/2012 8:22:15 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: TigersEye

The RNC doesn’t have to do anything. The only ones who can make us lose are people like you. Obama is going to lose in a landslide. A LANDSLIDE because our nominee is someone like Romney. Like it or not...GET INVOLVED IN YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN PARTY AND MAKE SURE REPUBLICANS DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO..Get off your computer and get into action or shut the hell up.


42 posted on 05/10/2012 8:24:43 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: xzins

Bob Seger said it best:

“Well you used to shake it down, but now you stop and think about your dignity”...

This isn’t beanbag. The point is to win.

178 days until the election.


43 posted on 05/10/2012 8:24:56 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: TigersEye
I knew before the primary ever started that the MSM would support Romney during the primary and would turn against him once he was the presumptive nominee. I also knew they would have more than enough ammo to destroy him. Couldn’t happen to a nicer liar.

Ditto.

And my answer to the posit I see posted in every thread pointing out that "if you don't vote for Willard (as bad as he is) you are giving Obamao 4 more years", is this:

If Willard wins it heaves the party left - permanently IMO. GOP-e will marginalize Conservatives as fringe. Forget about EVER having a Conservative nominee, much less primary candidate in your lifetime - when you will turn out and vote for whatever s**t sandwich the GOP-e throws at you. I get that there is a primary, but I also get that Willard cheated and this thing was rigged from the start.

Finally - what is more preferable?
a Socialist,homo-agenda-coddling,gun-grabbing,big-gov,open borders,abortionist [R] with a Congress that enables his agenda and no chance for a Conservative nominee in 2016?
or a Socialist,homo-agenda-coddling,gun-grabbing,big-gov,open borders,abortionist [D] with a Congress that resists his agenda and a chance for a true Conservative nominee in 2016?

Yes, its a almost a no-win, but to claim not voting for Willard is voting against your best interests is not entirely true IMO. Its a call that each of us has to make, for some its closer a call than for others. For me, Third Party upticket, best Conservatives down-ticket, 2016 or bust!
44 posted on 05/10/2012 8:27:05 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: icwhatudo

Read Dr Titus’ letter above in the article.


45 posted on 05/10/2012 8:27:32 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I got the same phone call, also from a very nice lady, and I had the pleasure of telling her that I haven’t been a Republican since 1998, but if they would nominate a true conservative I would be more than happy to donate the maximum allowed under law. She graciously thanked me and bid me good evening, as I did likewise.


46 posted on 05/10/2012 8:29:05 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“What do posts like this accomplish please?”

Anti-Romney Disinformation.

The court had ruled that any distinction between gay couples and man-woman couples was null and void in the law. the 180 days was a court-imposed arbitrary limit on the lege to act. But after that date, the court ordered massachusetts to accept gay couples requesting marriage licenses no matter what.

The idea that Romney could have defied this supreme court order is lunacy. the idea that Romney is to blame for gay marriage because he didnt defy the court order, even though at this time he vocally opposed it and supported a referendum to overturn it, is even more absurd.

And btw if you want to find out what happens when you defy a court order like this, google judge roy moore. where is he today?


47 posted on 05/10/2012 8:29:12 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: West Texas Chuck

My final answer... As much as I despise obamalamadingdong at least he won’t be doing what he will do with my vote and my blessing. Voting for mittens would mean that he would do the SAME AS OBAMA with my vote and blessing. Please, please, please try to see the difference. As bad as obama is, was and will be he has not signed any permanent weapons bans into law as mittens already has. How does any clear thinking, Constitution loving American vote for mittens? If we are doomed to living through the second war of northern aggression then so be it but it will not be brought about by a manchurian candidate having my vote! I will only be voting down ticket and proud to do so.


48 posted on 05/10/2012 8:29:28 PM PDT by DonPaulJonesII (WARNING: Poster does not play well with others!)
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To: Hildy

ROFLOL Do you really think your hyperventilating hysteria is going to affect me? The RNC pushed this baby killing goon on us and I’m not buying. The local Republican Party isn’t going to change that.


49 posted on 05/10/2012 8:29:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: j_tull

Ive read the history, Romney opposed gay marriage that is historical fact.


50 posted on 05/10/2012 8:31:53 PM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: West Texas Chuck; Patton@Bastogne

Do you have problems with truth about your candidate?

He came out today in favor of gays adopting your kids.

What is his position today despite his on-again-off-again support of gay marriage?

He says that gays can adopt your kids but they can’t marry. He won’t let them be together, but he will give them your children.

What a guy!@


51 posted on 05/10/2012 8:32:34 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: DonPaulJonesII

I will cut you some slack for using the proper Southern name for the Civil War, but I completely disagree with your reasoning. SAME AS OBAMA?

OK, let’s walk through this: one is a totally avowed socialist POS who wants to destroy our country, the other is a wimpy RINO with nice hair.

Total hate for America vs. weakass RINO. I will not sit this one out. I’m in the WEEK OLD DEAD SKUNK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD PARTY and will be there at the polling place with a clothespin on my nose.

Your choice, my choice.


52 posted on 05/10/2012 8:38:40 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: xzins
What is his position today despite his on-again-off-again support of gay marriage?

Could you please link me to where it says Romney has EVER supported gay marriage?

(P.S. I read the other link. You do realize it contradicts your post's assertion he did not have the power right? The attached clip shows (my guy) Santorum stating both the legislature and the governor did have the power.)

53 posted on 05/10/2012 8:42:12 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: xzins

Dude, I got bigger stuff to worry about than homo marrying. I’m thinking about the end of America, and I won’t help that happen.

You OK with helping Barry get another 4? Not me. It will be the end of the Republic. Mitt getting in just means I have to listen to people like you rag him for 4 years and I think I can deal with that.


54 posted on 05/10/2012 8:42:54 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: xzins

Blah blah blah society is sick, I don’t know a single politician opposing gay adoption. Romney did oppose gay marriage in Mass. and tried a lot of strategies to stop it. He failed. All these tortured legal analyses about how the Mass. Supreme Court decision was meaningless are just that, tortured logic.

I don’t like what Romney said about gay adoption, however please post here an opposition to gay adoption by maybe - Newt Gingrich. I will be impressed to read it.


55 posted on 05/10/2012 8:45:32 PM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: xzins

I believe obummer is the ultimate vermin. That’s what I believe and I will crawl on broken glass to get myself to the pols ad vote for a dogcatcher to get that creep out of the WH. You on the other hand believe the ultimate vermin enemy of the Constitution community moron is A OK w/ you to stay on for another 4 years of his good time as your president. That’s the difference between us.

But you will not win.


56 posted on 05/10/2012 8:49:14 PM PDT by parisa
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To: xzins

Here’s my apology before you have to yell back. I certainly did find interviews in which Gingrich opposed gay adoption. Frankly, I think it’s more important than gay marriage as an issue because no one really has honestly evaluated the effects of having gay couples raise children. So I applaud Gingrich on this and I don’t agree with Romney’s quick statement taht he supports gays adopting.

However, for a multitude of reasons, Romney still gets my vote against Obama.


57 posted on 05/10/2012 8:52:01 PM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
THe Truth bothers those on their knees to their Master.

Romney personally installed RomneyMarriage, just like Romney DEATH PANELS.

What SEVERE CONSERVATISM. /s

Note Romney’s use of improper executive authority. [The Romney Way™]

"Experts: Credit Romney for homosexual marriage"
"What he (Governor Bishop Mitt Romney) did was exercise illegal legislative authority'

"While former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney claims he did everything possible to throttle homosexual marriage in his state – his campaign now saying he took "every conceivable step within the law to defend traditional marriage" – several constitutional experts say that just isn't so.

"What Romney did [was] he exercised illegal legislative authority," Herb Titus said of the governor's actions after the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court released its opinion in the Goodridge case in 2003. "He was bound by what? There was no order. There wasn't even any order to the Department of Public Health to do anything."

Titus, a Harvard law graduate, was founding dean of Pat Robertson's Regent University Law School. He also worked with former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, ...

Romney's aides have told WND that after four of the seven court members reinterpreted the definition of marriage, he believed he had no choice but to direct clerks and others to change state marriage forms and begin registering same-sex couples.

Some opponents contend that with those actions, Romney did no more or less than create the first homosexual marriages recognized in the nation. And Titus agrees."

"....But the court's decision conflicts with the constitutional philosophy of three co-equal branches of government: executive, legislative and judicial, Titus said. It also violates with the Massachusetts Constitution, which states: "The power of suspending the laws, or (suspending) the execution of the laws, ought never to be exercised but by the legislature..."

And it cannot even be derived from the opinion itself, asserts the pro-family activist group Mass Resistance, which says the decision did four things:

* First, it acknowledged that the current law does not permit same-sex marriage.

"The only reasonable explanation is that the Legislature did not intend that same-sex couples be licensed to marry. We conclude, as did the judge, that G.L. c. 207 may not be construed to permit same-sex couples to marry."

* Second, it said it is NOT striking down the marriage laws (among other things, the Massachusetts Constitution forbids a court to change laws)

"Here, no one argues that striking down the marriage laws is an appropriate form of relief."

* Third, it declared that not allowing same-sex marriages is a violation of the Massachusetts Constitution.

"We declare that barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the Massachusetts Constitution."

* And fourth, given that the court is not changing any laws, the SJC gave the Legislature 180 days to "take such action as it may deem appropriate."

"We vacate the summary judgment for the department. We remand this case to the Superior Court for entry of judgment consistent with this opinion. Entry of judgment shall be stayed for 180 days to permit the Legislature to take such action as it may deem appropriate in light of this opinion."

After the Legislature did nothing during the 180 days, Romney then took action "on his own," the group said.

"Gov. Romney's legal counsel issued a directive to the Justices of the Peace that they must perform same-sex marriages when requested or 'face personal liability' or be fired," the group said."

58 posted on 05/10/2012 8:55:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: kevcol

Whats more preferable? Lets see:

Romney: for Ryan budget, against SSM, supports 2nd and NRA, lower tax rates, supports ‘self-deportation’, supports Roe v Wade overturn, will pass conservative Congress bills, vetoed hundreds of liberal bills as governor.

Obama: Socialist, for SSM,gun-grabbing “fast and furious”,big-gov, wants higher tax rates, spent $6 trillion in new debt,open borders,abortionist [D] who will stop conservative bills with his vetos.


59 posted on 05/10/2012 9:06:41 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: DonPaulJonesII

For the last 3 1/2 years we have had a Consititutionally ineligible, US hating, Marxist loving, usurping freak running the county and you think that “electing” a “lighter shade of fail” is going to make a difference?


60 posted on 05/10/2012 9:09:01 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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