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Crime Man Ticketed For Littering After Giving a Homeless Man Money…And Dropping One of the Bills
blaze ^ | 5/23/2012 | erica ritz

Posted on 05/24/2012 10:00:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga

John Davis May Pay $500 For Littering After Giving a Homeless Man Money and Briefly Dropping One of the Bills | Ohio

(Photo: Fox 8)

Last Monday, John Davis was reportedly exiting the I-90 in Cleveland, Ohio when he saw a pale, thin man in a wheelchair holding a sign that said something along the lines of, “Love Jesus, Please Help.”

Davis, who has a brother that is paralyzed, says he enjoys helping people, particularly since he knows how much his brother struggles.

(Related: Beck: The Left Uses ‘Political System X’ to Co-Opt the Homeless)

“Not only that, but he‘s needing some money or he wouldn’t be out there,” Davis remarked of the man in the wheelchair.

So, Davis recalled, he grabbed a couple of dollars and folded them, extending his arm out his window to give the bills to the man.

“He touched it.  It hit the ground.  At that point, he bent over and he picked it up,” Davis explained.

John Davis May Pay $500 For Littering After Giving a Homeless Man Money and Briefly Dropping One of the Bills | Ohio

(Photo: Fox 8)

It was only a few seconds before police cruiser lights began flashing, and an officer reportedly told Davis he was being cited for littering. 

“Are you serious?” Davis asked.

“I’m darn serious,” the officer allegedly responded, writing “Throw paper out window,” on the ticket, and in parenthesis, “money to panhandler.”

Watch John Davis’ account of the events, below:

Now, Fox 8 notes that Ohio does have a law that prohibits panhandling and giving money to panhandlers near a highway or street (including a berm, shoulder, treelawn or sidewalk), but that is not what the man was seemingly ticketed for.

When Davis protested, the officer reportedly told him to “take it up with the courts,” where he may have to pay $500, including associated court fees.

“I don’t mean any disrespect toward the police department at all, we need ‘em, but I just wish I didn’t have to pay this ticket,” Davis said.

Not only that, but he said this will undeniably curtail his future charitable givings towards the homeless.

“I’d like to do it again but I’m petrified I’m going to get a ticket.”


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KEYWORDS: charity; donutwatch; police
Once again the heroes in blue go out of their way to protect society.
1 posted on 05/24/2012 10:00:28 AM PDT by from occupied ga
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To: from occupied ga

How can it be littering if money was “dropped” but then picked up so there was nothing on the ground?


2 posted on 05/24/2012 10:04:21 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: from occupied ga

Dunkin donuts must have been closed for inventory.


3 posted on 05/24/2012 10:04:45 AM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: Americanexpat

Is it just me or does it seem that nowadays every cop I see looks like a roided up NFL reject?


4 posted on 05/24/2012 10:07:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: edcoil
How can it be littering if money was “dropped” but then picked up so there was nothing on the ground?

Because the cop will not face any consequences for obviously making up/distorting a law to write a ticket. There isn't any control over our brave heroes as they go around protecting society like this.

5 posted on 05/24/2012 10:09:11 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Obviously the officer had a good reason for writing the ticket. I’m sure there’s more to the story than we’re seeing (the guy was probably hopped up on drugs and had child pr0nography in his dash), so it looks like the guy got what he deserved.

\Free Republic police bootlick brigade


6 posted on 05/24/2012 10:09:14 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: from occupied ga
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7 posted on 05/24/2012 10:11:51 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: from occupied ga
“I don’t mean any disrespect toward the police department at all, we need ‘em, but I just wish I didn’t have to pay this ticket,” Davis said.

Allow me to lavish the disrespect on this ahole. We don't need pigs like this. Let the cop pay $500 for wasting the courts time and harassing the citizens who pay him then fire him.

8 posted on 05/24/2012 10:13:24 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: edcoil

Revenue officer. More revenue from littering ticket than panhandling arrest, and much less work.


9 posted on 05/24/2012 10:16:22 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

You jest, but they will be here probably telling us how this is just an abberation, and the guy was doing something wrong, etc. (Oh and I forgot they’ll come up with “You want them to go home to their families at night don’t you.”)


10 posted on 05/24/2012 10:17:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Thank god no dogs around, the cop probably would have shot it for Littering.


11 posted on 05/24/2012 10:19:35 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: from occupied ga

You Will Respect Mah Authoritah!

12 posted on 05/24/2012 10:20:36 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

About what it boils down to.

13 posted on 05/24/2012 10:22:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

The police in the next town over (we have none in my town) can’t wait to give you a ticket for something. And you are not allowed to ask a question without being threatened with arrest...they are just plain nuts.

I have been pulled over and ticketed for going thru a yellow lite, having a “low tire” (needed air) and going thru an imaginary stop sign we have yet to find.

We will not go thru that town and we tell everyone we know so they won’t get a ticket.
They just lost a weekly, huge muscle/antique car show to another town.
Supposedly, the merchants didn’t like the traffic, but what they aren’t publicizing is that the cops would wait for the car show to end and then when people were leaving with their show cars, pull them over for loud mufflers, turning right on red without coming to a complete stop first, going thru yellow lights etc. Just ridiculous stuff. (but they never ever pull over Harleys for anything no matter how loud-why? cause they ride them!)
A lot of these people come from out of STATE to bring their show cars and it’s all for charity too. Some of the owners of these cars have been doing this for 20+years.

I just don’t get why cops are allowed to be like this; they are ruining a town that has done wonders to come back from closed up store fronts etc. It’s so sad.

I miss the great coffee shop with the Gadsen Flag flying from the roof (a lot of people don’t know it’s there and he’s Tea Party too I hear shhhh!) But between the cops and the loud Harleys (biker bar around the corner) I couldn’t take it anymore. Hard to relax when you don’t know if you’re going to be pulled over on the way home.


14 posted on 05/24/2012 10:26:45 AM PDT by homegroan (Veni, Vedi, Velcro....since 1998)
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To: homegroan

Just part of the 95% that give the other 5% a bad name.


15 posted on 05/24/2012 10:31:35 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SkyDancer

Holy crap. I can’t believe that is a MA State trooper. I know my share and they are all quite fit. How did that fat slob get in and how does he keep his job? They have fitness requirements for heaven sake.


16 posted on 05/24/2012 10:31:40 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: from occupied ga

OK you somebitch, we don't cotton to no litterbugging in these here parts. Got that!

17 posted on 05/24/2012 10:33:55 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Holy crap. I can’t believe that is a MA State trooper

Everything about the MA government is corrupt and run by Democrats (but I repeat myself). Why do you think that the police would be any different from the rest of the MA government sewer.

18 posted on 05/24/2012 10:37:32 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: crazydad
the cop probably would have shot it for Littering.

Probably found one to shoot later.

19 posted on 05/24/2012 10:43:16 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

I dunno, I agree with Bloody Sam Roberts on this one. MA Staties more nearly resemble Marines than they do the donut chomping townies. I have never seen a MA Statie who didn’t appear to be in very good physical condition.


20 posted on 05/24/2012 10:44:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

You know, if you just would follow the law (you probably smoke dope, too) you will never have this sort of problem.

\Free Republic police bootlick brigade


21 posted on 05/24/2012 10:51:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: from occupied ga

“I don’t mean any disrespect toward the police department at all”

Why not? It’s just this sort of attitude which grants unearned dignity to the crimes of the boys in blue, and makes everyone who complains appear to be crankish fringe racial or otherwise rabble-rousers and/or libertarian nuts. Join the nuts, and hold cops to the same standards as everyone else.

If they ticket you unjustly for “littering” it’s no different than a common thief picking your pocket for an equivalent amount.
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22 posted on 05/24/2012 11:22:34 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: edcoil

“How can it be littering if money was ‘dropped’ but then picked up so there was nothing on the ground?”

Because, um...


23 posted on 05/24/2012 11:23:35 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: homegroan

” I have been pulled over and ticketed for going thru a yellow lite”

Since when is that a crime? I was under the impression red is the one that means “stop.” Is it time to go back to traffic school?


24 posted on 05/24/2012 11:27:06 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: homegroan

So long as we’re telling cop stories, I used to drive a lot at night (due to my shift) in a red somewhat sporty looking car when I was relatively young, so of course I was pulled over often. I also break laws all the time and especially never wear my seatbelt, but everyone does that so that’s neither here nor there. It gives you a certain freedom, knowing you’ll be pulled over endlessly no matter what you do. It frees you to argue with the cops without fear of pissing them off.

It became apparent that their number one goal was to catch drunk drivers, which I guess follows night driving like sunrise from dawn. What they might not have realized is that the reason they pulled me over was not because they had probable cause, or any more probable cause than for other cars. Nor was it because of my youth or probability of being drunk, though those were also present. It was chiefly because, and they’d have to admit, I drove a red somewhat sporty car.

They wouldn’t admit to that, but I felt it was my public duty to make them aware of their stupid prejudice. Perhaps in future when someone called them a dumb pig they’d think twice about batoning them across the face. They’d say to themselves, “If that kid was right about my anti-red bias, maybe this dirty Occupy Wall Streeter is right about my piggishness.”


25 posted on 05/24/2012 11:36:17 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
If they ticket you unjustly for “littering” it’s no different than a common thief picking your pocket for an equivalent amount.

And you've hit the essence of government. They're no different than common thieves. They just cloak themselves with moral authority, but they blew that away when they decided that all money belongs to the government and how much they allow you to keep is up to them.

26 posted on 05/24/2012 12:04:18 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Tublecane
“How can it be littering if money was ‘dropped’ but then picked up so there was nothing on the ground?”

It's a pure stretch of logic......but here goes.

Since the donor dropped the money THAT constituted littering, but HE did not pick it up -- the homeless guy did. So the donor completed the act of littering, while the homeless guy cleaned up the "litter".

Imagine if it was an aluminum can, instead of a dollar.

Told you it was a stretch, but that's about the only way I can see "littering".

27 posted on 05/24/2012 12:04:52 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (Romney is not MY candidate for President in 2012.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I don’t have a horse in that race. Just sayin’ that the government in MA is run by democrats and anything that is run by democrats has one set of standards for most people and another for relatives and friends of those in power.


28 posted on 05/24/2012 12:07:08 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

There ya go... Proof the US dollar is now considered garbage.


29 posted on 05/24/2012 5:51:36 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Tublecane

I used to drive a Miata (red!of course)-didn’t own it when I got pulled over, but I was driving a Mazda-zippy little semi-souped up 626, not tricked out or anything, but it did look nice. We had restored it-it was a 1990. Mazda’s are zippy anyway, so we didn’t do much too to the engine, but hubby did jazz it up a little for me.

I do not break the law unless I am unaware and I may go 5 miles over the speed limit, but only on the highway singing along to the radio. If I had my Miata still, living here in the country with the winding roads, I could not say that.I would be speeding daily and enjoying it and just pray I don’t hit a deer... but I am also older now too and tend to be more careful.
We think it was the kind of car; we live near a big run down city where small junk cars (Jap-scrap they call them) are souped up with Nitro etc and they do fly thru here...they LUV Mazdas, Hondas, Hyundais, Toyotas..and they race them. So, I could kind of understand a cop being cautious. But once he pulled me over and saw this sweet innocent face, you’d think that would be the end of it.

So, we took the Mazdas and the Hyundais off the road (we had 2 of each at the time) and I bought the ugliest, Granny lookin car I could think of: a big beige Buick Regal (sorry to all the Grannys out there).It even came with a matching set of cataract sunglasses (those big black ones that people wear who have cataracts) that were left in the car from the previous owner. I’m not kidding; so it was a legit senior-mobile.
As the rednecks say around here-”beige and fade baby!” And they were right... Haven’t been stopped since I bought it. KILLS me to drive it as it is not me-but my life is less nerve wracking. It will haul when you want it to, but it’s not the same.
My husband is 11 years younger than me and when he drives it, he looks like he’s either stolen it, has Grandma’s car for the weekend, or he’s test driving it after a tune-up.

I hate it, but it works....just missing my Zoom-Zoom.

SuZQ


30 posted on 05/24/2012 7:53:39 PM PDT by homegroan (Veni, Vedi, Velcro....since 1998)
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To: from occupied ga

I know...it’s a shame. I know not all cops are like that-the State Troopers are pretty good in this area because they have to be town police too and they don’t seem to bother with all that pettiness. And you can ask them a question, but the other cops, if you ask-like I did-where’s the stop sign? you’re threatened with arrest. It’s like the whole police dept are Barney Fife’s and are always on high alert! It’s kind of scary to us average law abiding citizens because they seem over-zealous, you don’t know what they are capable of. I may end up IN jail crosses your mind...so you just shut up and take it.
And that’s not right....


31 posted on 05/24/2012 8:13:58 PM PDT by homegroan (Veni, Vedi, Velcro....since 1998)
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To: Tublecane

Me too-I was taught that you go thru a yellow light with caution-that’s what it used to be called-a “caution light” (in my drivers ed manual from the stone age)..but this cop tells me “it means you come to a stop because it will be red, not go speeding thru it like you did”....I wasn’t “speeding’, I was coming down a very steep hill and it was raining. I wasn’t speeding. I don’t speed. It’s a very small town, I was coming from the hospital visiting my father in law on a Tuesday night at 9pm after working all day...I was tired and when I’m tired I drive slowly.

Then he says-I saw you look right at me (he was in traffic at the red light) and then you “gunned it”. I told him I ALWAYS look both ways when I go thru an intersection, I don’t care if the light is green either-once again, that’s what/how I was taught. He told me we could continue the conversation around the corner (at the station) or I could take the ticket, for”careless driving thru an intersection”-it was $30 and be on my way. I just wanted to go home.

I would have gone to court and all of that, but my father in law was so sick, I just couldn’t deal with it.I will never forget it because I have never ever been arrested or anything like that, have never been in trouble of any kind....so this was so shocking to me-to be threatened with going to the station; it’s very scary-and they know it!


32 posted on 05/24/2012 8:51:10 PM PDT by homegroan (Veni, Vedi, Velcro....since 1998)
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To: from occupied ga

Too bad the good samaritan didn’t get the ossifers name. He deserves much notoriety.


33 posted on 05/24/2012 8:58:44 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:Arab Spring,Banks,Big Oil,Bush,Ceos,Coal,Euro Zone,FNC,Jpn Tsunami,T Party,Wall St,You)
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Crime Man was my favorite super-hero. And his super-power was in fact littering.


34 posted on 05/24/2012 9:32:50 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Tublecane

“Do not question ME, Serf!”


35 posted on 05/25/2012 9:31:57 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: homegroan

“this cop tells me ‘it means you come to a stop because it will be red, not go speeding thru it like you did’...he says-I saw you look right at me (he was in traffic at the red light) and then you ‘gunned it’...’He told me we could continue the conversation around the corner (at the station) or I could take the ticket, for”careless driving thru an intersection’”

This is a major problem with law enforcement. As they said once on a tv show I watch, the cop on his beat is America’s last dictator. They can ignore you committing a felony or make one up when you weren’t doing anything, depending on their mood. This is so because you can’t write laws to cover every situation. Who’s to say what constitutes recklessness, exactly; when a swerve is just a swerve, or when it’s evidence of unfitness to drive? The guy we’ve trained to do so, that’s who.

It so happens that this guy is not objective, and in addition to personal pecadillos is entrusted with generating revenue for the outfit that pays him. So when he sees you go through a yellow light, does it really matter whether there’s any law against it? There’s a law against something, and he’ll use that, whatever it is, against you. He’ll do this either because he personally doesn’t like yellow-light driving, because he wants to get the city some money, or because he genuinely thinks what you did constitutes a crime of some kind. It hardly matters which.

Now, because police stations and courts are a pain in the neck, and because for no good reason whatsoever cops are taken at their word when diagnosing various subjective charges like “carelessness,” “disturbing the peace,” etc., most people passively accept the illegalization of everyday activities. It won’t ever stop, in my opinion.


36 posted on 05/30/2012 9:42:47 AM PDT by Tublecane
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