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Constructive secession: a frightening possibility unless King Barack I is stopped
coachisright.com ^ | July 16, 2012 | Derrick Hollenbeck, staff writer

Posted on 07/16/2012 8:39:57 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

If we can’t find a way stop Barack Obama’s shredding of our Constitution by his arrogant use of Executive Orders we are certainly headed for a Constitutional crisis not seen since the Civil War.

Obama’s continued assaults on the rule of law to win support and reelection from those with no stake in our country are now coming at a dangerous pace.

His narcissistic “L’État, c’est moi” (“I am the state”) delusion must be stopped or at some point a state governor will refuse to comply with one of his Executive Orders –even one backed up by the Supreme Court. This could bring about a de facto, or constructive secession by states attempting to uphold our Constitution.

Constructive Secession

Borrowing from civil divorce law, constructive secession could occur when a state refuses to fulfill its obligations of compliance within the compact it has with the federal government. Barack Obama is well on his way to setting the stage for this to happen.

Utah already has a law allowing the satisfaction of taxes with payment in gold. Other states, South Carolina Georgia Idaho and Indiana, (all of whom are controlled by Republicans) are considering similar bills.

When this happens gold will become the local currency and necessarily differ in value from one state to another. This will in effect create state currency and bring about another step toward constructive secession.

In a marriage constructive abandonment can arise without the spouses separating and taking up new domiciles. In a constructive secession there would be no need for a formal declaration of secession.

States opting for a constructive secession would merely comport themselves as separate countries as they administer the several matters that dominate everyday life.

We already have dozens of states that have indicated they will not…

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: obamacare
No need to declare it, just resist and refuse.
1 posted on 07/16/2012 8:40:04 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

Due to witholding of taxe, he Feds getyour money bfore you do. It is impossible to starve the beast. A state(s) is going to have to thrown down against the feds.


2 posted on 07/16/2012 8:47:41 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jmaroneps37

If the Congress due to issues of power or fear of the Leftist media refuse to act or enforce their oath—the States may need to take up the torch of freedom. If the nation becomes the Kingdom of Obama by him cancelling the election or rigging it so he will win—maybe there will be no choice but session and the formation of a new government that follows the essence of the US Constitution. The Constitutional States of America. CW II only this time it could get really bad. A reset for America.


3 posted on 07/16/2012 8:51:30 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: jmaroneps37

“Utah already has a law allowing the satisfaction of taxes with payment in gold. Other states, South Carolina Georgia Idaho and Indiana, (all of whom are controlled by Republicans) are considering similar bills.”

GA did it two years ago.


4 posted on 07/16/2012 8:54:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I like the idea of constructive secession. The law also recognizes “constructive eviction”. This is where a landlord permits such disrepair in an apartment that a tenant been constructively evicted even if the tenant remains in the apartment.


5 posted on 07/16/2012 8:56:09 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: jmaroneps37

Thank you, 37.

Too much complyin’, cooperatin’ and complicity going on around this here. It’s demoralizing this pacifism and napping while a coux on the Constitution is taking place.


6 posted on 07/16/2012 9:03:36 AM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“...due to issues of power or fear of the Leftist media...”

Step One: Target the real enemy.


7 posted on 07/16/2012 9:07:56 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jmaroneps37

The Keynesian system of political and social control is founded upon forcing all economic participants to use a fiat currency that is then is subject to government manipulation.

This system is so pervasive that it has become the water in which we frogs are being boiled.

To show this is true, we are rightly outraged that a cabal of banks in collusion with several major governments manipulated the standard commercial interest rate, LIBOR, upon which trillions of dollars worth of private and even government loans are priced. We see this as a crime and Barclays Bank has already paid a whopping fine in an admission of its guilt.

But how many people view government manipulation of the value of money over time as just something that independent central banks must do in order to keep our economy functioning smoothly? How few people see this as the greatest scheme of theft in all human history?

The way back to personal liberty must be to forbid and prevent government from stealing our private wealth by dilution and embezzlement. If government needs money to execute one of its enumerated powers, then let them present an honest bill and let everyone who owes it pay that amount and not a penny more.

Instead, government inflates our wealth away from us and then levies income taxes on the nominal gain in assets like homes or precious metals that are due solely to a deliberate policy to have a “targeted rate of inflation”. At the present 2% target, the general level of wages and prices will increase by a factor of 455% in the average lifetime.

The very best way to start to starve the self-funding Leviathan State we now have is to withdraw your wealth from its fiat money system. You do this by minimizing the number of dollars you hold. You do this by holding your wealth in forms like stock, precious metals, land, etc. to the maximum extent possible. If you have to sell an asset, and the seller pays its value to you in fiat money, you put that wealth in something else as soon as possible.

Government has shown that it no longer is willing to hold itself as a trustworthy fiduciary of our wealth. When we allow government to hold our wealth, which we do by holding dollars, government just cannot help itself- it is addicted to manipulating the money to its own advantage.

One solution to this is at the ballot box, but that is slow and uncertain as many supporters of the Tea Party are finding out given how their favored candidates have voted after being elected.

One longer term solution is to take your wealth and store it in the form of physical precious metals that you hold yourself. Or take it in the form of farm land.

One other solution is to decline as much as possible, to allow government to hold your personal wealth. One way is to open an account at a place like Fidelity, ETrade or some other discount broker where you have the ability to pay bills, write checks, use a debit card and buy and sell stock. Instead of allowing my broker to keep my spare balance in dollars, I buy shares of allocated precious metals ETF (like SGOL, or SIVR, especially over three day weekends. The round trip doesn’t cost much if the balance is high enough. And yes there is trading risk, but the broker does all your cost-basis accounting for taxes now. And you substantially deny government the use of your wealth for the time you keep it out of their currencies.

But above all, just peacefully and politely decline to help p Keynsesians bring about their socialist Utopia, which they are hell-bent on doing.


8 posted on 07/16/2012 9:12:15 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: jmaroneps37

for later


9 posted on 07/16/2012 9:25:40 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: jmaroneps37

What’s remarkable about this idea is that it’s not just coming now from kooks. Rational, normal people are having thoughts and ideas that would NEVER, EVER have even dawned on them a few years ago.

I’m one of them.


10 posted on 07/16/2012 9:51:56 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Inwoodian

The breakup of the United States into regional republics has been noted in fictional TV, notably in a short-lived TV series “Jericho”. There was an EMP blackout of the entire country, coupled with what appeared to be detonation of massive nuclear devices in just about all the major metropolitan centers around the country. Set in western Kansas, the village of Jericho finds itself isolated and left to their own devices. As the story unfolds, it becomes apparent there has been a major conflict, and the US was unable to deliver a response. So the scattered remnants of the military posts have become the de facto national government, but there are regional differences, with Texas becoming one of the first to declare national sovereignty.

Texas may in fact be one of the first states and/or regions to declare their independence from the Federal government. They are certainly capable of achieveing a self-supporting economic base.


11 posted on 07/16/2012 10:02:36 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: alloysteel
Texas may in fact be one of the first states and/or regions to declare their independence from the Federal government. They are certainly capable of achieveing a self-supporting economic base.

The wrong side won in Civil War I. Let's see what happens this time around.

Keep your powder dry.

FMCDH(BITS)

12 posted on 07/16/2012 10:36:46 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: alloysteel

Too bad they cancelled the series. Must have scared someone...


13 posted on 07/16/2012 11:49:54 AM PDT by naturalborn
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To: naturalborn

Jericho was great. Saw the whole thing on Netflix, commercial free.


14 posted on 07/16/2012 12:06:13 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: bicyclerepair
Jericho was great. Saw the whole thing on Netflix, commercial free.

Watched it on Hulu. Fee free. The initial story line was kinda weird (only older people dieing), but how society devolved was done fairly well. In our current real world, we are gonna need the old people. They still have some of the skills the youth have thought they would never have to learn.

15 posted on 07/16/2012 4:47:24 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: jmaroneps37

Will the Fedgov still send my Social Security benefits and pay my Medicare health care bills if I move to a secession state?


16 posted on 07/16/2012 4:52:42 PM PDT by nascarnation
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