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The actual 1961 codes are presented, as well as proof that the chart presented by the Cold Case Posse, came from a 1968 manual.
1 posted on 07/27/2012 9:26:56 AM PDT by chatter4
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Even if true, it still doesn’t change the fact, that what was presented to the U.S. by Obama was not the original birth certificate but a modified version. Hawaii was not even willing to confirm the information was correct in what Obama represented.


2 posted on 07/27/2012 9:36:34 AM PDT by DannyTN
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What a mess. If true, it makes the Cold Case Posse and those who regarded the press conference as a bombshell or absolute evidence look even more like tin foil hatters.


3 posted on 07/27/2012 9:41:10 AM PDT by sometime lurker
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Who cares??? You are an example of conservatives shooting their own. Let’s nit pick to death everyone and everything so that there will only be your understanding left. your ‘proof’ lacks.


6 posted on 07/27/2012 9:57:18 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: chatter4

To Chatter4.

Mike Zullo as a guest on the Peter Boyles show on July 18th, the day after the press conference stated:

“The number 9 for the federal code, and the number 9 per the State of Hawaii’s own statistical code, means ‘information not provided’ or ‘information not stated”

With that said, we can assume that Hawaii has their own coding manual other than the manuals you presented in your video. What we need is a authentic 1961 Hawaii State Coding Manual to verify code 9.


7 posted on 07/27/2012 9:57:52 AM PDT by Fred Garvin-MP
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There are other ‘codes’ on the document, such as for the field representing whether the person was born in a hospital, or a home birth, that are also contested.

The code discussed in this article has only referred to question on the ‘race’ of his father. Although important, it hardly seems a game turner. On the other hand, if he wasn’t born in the hospital as they are claiming, that would be much more significant.


8 posted on 07/27/2012 10:01:12 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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This is all a side show.. The birth certificate Obama presented to the American people is altered. Originally it was on blue paper then turned to green security paper? How did THAT happen? Constructed in Adobe Illustrator or Photoshop then printed out, IMPRINTED WITH A 'SEAL' THAT IS TOO SMALL AND NOT THE SIZE HAWAII USED, then photographed by Savannah Guthrie so we'd all think it was real? Uh, no thank you..

LET'S SEE HAWAII'S MICROFILM OR MICROFICHE OF OBAMA'S BIRTH RECORD. We never will because Obama's bc# was stolen from Virginia Sunahara's. Obama's birth certificate exists in PDF format only. It seems Hawaii was way ahead of its time back in 1961!

10 posted on 07/27/2012 10:09:03 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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In 1961, code "9" meant "other nonwhite".

This may fit on line 9, but line 12b also has a nine.
15 posted on 07/27/2012 10:50:41 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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1. If the manual shown in the video above WAS the right manual, and

2. we look at how the coding was done on the face of Obama’s purported birth certificate, then

3. Obama has an even BIGGER problem - it appears that Obama’s birth certificate originally claimed a “home birth” and then was forged to insert the name of a hospital.

See the discussion of that possibility in the thread here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2911212/posts


20 posted on 07/27/2012 11:31:55 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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You have “9” in more than one location where “other nonwhite” wouldn’t make sense.


24 posted on 07/27/2012 11:40:50 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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We’re still looking for a “real” code manual. The one in the video is supposedly from 1960-1961 is attributed to a source that wasn’t created until 1963 or later.


25 posted on 07/27/2012 12:00:02 PM PDT by edge919
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Curious, I read the report in detail and Zulo said he interviewed the person who coded it to see what it meant... So it wasn't a code manual it was the registers notations I've also seen where one of the the document experts had proven pretty conclusively that the document was heavily doctored.
It doesn't really matter. Right or wrong Congress will never take up the issue. Even if Obama was not “a natural born citizen from the common mans view point SC would just interpret the law to validate him. Natural born has never been vetted in the courts Their is no legal definition for it. and they are not about to define it with a presidents position in the balance - Its truly a non-issue
27 posted on 07/27/2012 12:55:43 PM PDT by Sanity is my name
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To: chatter4; All
In 1961, when Barry was allegedly born:

1. What was the code for no answer provided?
2. What happened in the case where the parent(s) couldn't provide an answer? Was something made up? Or, were the parent(s) required to give an answer to each and every field? All were mandatory and no blanks were allowed?

If one were to assume that Sr. was "self" identified as "African":

1. Would the code have really been "other nonwhite?" to describe a Black who was from Africa? What, then would be the code to describe an "African" who was white?
or
2. Would the document have been coded to indicate Black or Negro (or similar terminology from the period)? If so, what was that code?

32 posted on 07/27/2012 3:50:48 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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Take a closer look at the Code Manual. It states the codes are to be “punched”, it does not say they are to be penciled in on the form. In 1961 there was such a thing as a punch card. Go figure.


33 posted on 07/27/2012 6:11:46 PM PDT by Income tax and Freedom. Huh?
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