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Say Hello To "Four More Years" (Mittens-Ryan)
Market-ticker ^ | Aug. 11, 2012 | Karl Deninger

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:40:16 PM PDT by SatinDoll

There are a few hard, fast rules in politics when you're playing on the top of the ticket.

The first is that picking someone that's dumber than a box-o-rocks may cost you the election, as the electorate may think about your untimely demise and whether they can live with the other party in the left seat.

The second is that picking someone who's smarter than you are isn't that good of an idea either, because then the electorate may wonder if they made the wrong choice for the top of the ticket.

And the third is that picking someone who's hated more than you are sometimes works politically, especially if you've got a bunch of rabid people who hate you (and who doesn't at this level of political activity?); their fire may be drawn to the VP pick.

Of course that can backfire and cause your opponent to concentrate his fire on you both.

That appears to be headed Mittens way with Paul Ryan as his running mate.

The Republican presidential candidate called his new running mate a man of "steadiness" and "integrity." Speaking Saturday morning, Romney praised Ryan as an "intellectual leader" of the party, one who understands the toll the debt is taking on the country but is optimistic about the future.

Uh huh. That would be nice if it was true.

Unfortunately it's a lie.

And Ryan is one of the liars-in-chief in the House. If you need your memory refreshed may I recommend you read the following links:

here (discretionary budget, welfare reform, retirement security and more) here (voted for and supported TARP) here (Medicare, cost-shifting at gunpoint and more) here (more Medicare lies) here (Ryan's fraudulent -- for the second time -- budget proposal) and of course here (Ryan's lies about the sequester ex-post-facto creating exemptions to it)

and that's just the last year or so of my coverage of this venomous, traitorous snake.

The problem with Ryan is that he's not a "conservative" at all. Beyond the fiscal mess documented up above -- a mess he not only helped create but is promulgating and continuing, along with the explicit and implicit support of frauds up and down the line in our financial system via TARP and other schemes he also supports blatantly unconstitutional laws on top of it, including The Patriot Act, warrantless wiretaps, retroactive immunity for telecommunications firms that broke the law on warrant requirements and more.

This is a man who literally wakes up and looks for a tiny as-yet-unused corner of the Constitution with which to wipe his ass after the obligatory morning stop on the commode. Paired with Romney, who supported and signed a ban on guns that looked scary while governor of Massachusetts, to give Ryan the tie-breaking vote in the Senate is unthinkable.

This nation and her people need both a stick for our teeth and a good belt of whiskey, for indeed, given this "choice", here it comes.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; denninger; gop; paulryan; romney; tarp; ticker
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To: SatinDoll

Go look at some of Karl’s past predictions, but don’t drink anything while you’re reading. You’ll ruin your screen.


21 posted on 08/11/2012 5:17:56 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: SatinDoll

Yawn. Everyone voted for TARP and the Patriot Act except Ron Paul and Barbara Lee. WTF does this have to defeating America’s Hugo Chavez? NO MORE NAVEL-GAZING. Time to STFU and unite to defeat the son of a bitch Obama.


22 posted on 08/11/2012 5:29:29 PM PDT by montag813
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To: dfwgator

“Opinions are like you-know-what, everybody’s got one.” you forgot the other part...

...and they always stink!

Thank you for the post.


23 posted on 08/11/2012 5:33:30 PM PDT by vg0va3
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To: SatinDoll

Here’s a test for you. Read the first two lines of the original post and think of Biden. That’s where I stopped reading.


24 posted on 08/11/2012 5:36:13 PM PDT by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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To: SatinDoll

” picking someone that’s dumber than a box-o-rocks may cost you the election,...”

Like Joe BIDEN?!?!? Didn’t seem to cost obama the 2008 election, did it?

This is irrelevant anyways. EVERY Republican is “dumber than a box of rocks” according to the left. So no matter WHO was chosen, he would have been deemed “dumber than a box of rocks”


25 posted on 08/11/2012 5:37:26 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: SatinDoll
Let's review Karl Deninger's axioms in veiw of recent electoral history:
  1. picking someone that's dumber than a box-o-rocks may cost you the election
  2. picking someone who's smarter than you are isn't that good of an idea either
  3. picking someone who's hated more than you are sometimes works politically

Responses:
  1. See Joe Biden, 2008.
  2. See Dick Cheney, 2000 and 2004
  3. See Dick Cheney, 2000 and 2004.

    The problem with extreme libertarians is that they would rather take credit for being pure rather than take responsibility for actually governing.

    The Libertarians have been running presidents in every election since 1972. Their best showing was in 1980 when they cracked 1% of the national popular vote for the first time and got close to one million votes. They haven't even cracked a half million votes since save only in 2008 when the two main choices were our incumbent Marxists and an even worse RINO that the top of the GOP ticket now.

    Why is it going to be any different this year?

    Further, while the Libertarians have elected a local candidate here and there, they have yet to elect a single candidate to congress in over 40 years of existence. There success has been far more prevalent in siphoning enough votes from the GOP in the November general election to elect Democrat ass-clowns who are far, far worse. Exhibit A is Al Franken.


26 posted on 08/11/2012 5:49:12 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SatinDoll
That appears to be headed Mittens way with Paul Ryan as his running mate.

Sometimes the level of political cowardliness surprises even me.

27 posted on 08/11/2012 5:59:06 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama, what's your plan man?)
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To: All

It didn’t seem to hurt obama when he selected an idiot for veep.


28 posted on 08/11/2012 6:00:54 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To my kin & former friends: Don't contact me if you still love obama- We got nothing to talk about)
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To: Mike Darancette
Sometimes the level of political cowardliness surprises even me.

It's reaching epic proportions these days, even here it seems.

29 posted on 08/11/2012 6:03:03 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: SatinDoll
The second is that picking someone who's smarter than you are isn't that good of an idea either, because then the electorate may wonder if they made the wrong choice for the top of the ticket.

In this case, we don't have to wonder.

30 posted on 08/11/2012 6:08:02 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: SatinDoll
For what it's worth I found this on Karl's desk - IV was circled...

I
Thou shalt create an illusion of invulnerability shared by most members to foster excessive optimism and encourage extreme risks taking

II
Thou shall not allow any member to question the group's inherent morality, instead members shall be encouraged to ignore the ethical or moral consequences of their decisions

III
Thou shalt promote collective efforts to rationalize in order to discount warnings, or other information that might lead members to reconsider their assumptions before they recommit themselves to their assumptions

IV
Thou shalt reinforce stereotyped views of enemy leaders as too evil to warrant genuine attempts to negotiate, or as too weak and stupid to counter whatever risky attempts are made to defeat their purpose

V
Thou shalt self-censor any deviation from the apparent group consensus, inclining each member to minimize the importance of their doubts and counterarguments

VI
Thou shalt create and maintain a shared illusion of unanimity concerning judgment conforming to the majority view

VII
Thou shalt apply direct pressure on any member who expresses strong arguments against any of the group's stereotypes, illusions, or commitments, making clear that this type of dissent is contrary to what is expected of all loyal members

VIII
Thou shalt appoint mind guards to protect the group from adverse information that might shatter their shared complacency about the effectiveness and morality of their decisions

31 posted on 08/11/2012 6:08:49 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: SatinDoll

Well, this will appeal to the ten people who give a crap what he writes.


32 posted on 08/11/2012 6:10:32 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Parley Baer

Frankly, at this point it doesn’t matter one way or the other. This country is up a creek either way.

And chaos theory says it’s going to collapse within a few years anywise.


33 posted on 08/11/2012 6:11:23 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: montag813

Bravo!


34 posted on 08/11/2012 6:11:32 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: RIghtwardHo

“We can hold Obama in check for 4 more years.”

I would tend to disagree with that. Obama has been showing his true colors lately, and has no use for the Constitution, or even Congress and the Senate (as in ignoring it even with Republicans controlling both houses).
I just got done reading “The Communist” by Paul Kangor. That’s the book about Frank Marshall Davis, one of Obama’s influences. Davis was a Stalinist. Some of the spew from this administration is just about word for word resembling Davis’ writings.


35 posted on 08/11/2012 6:15:32 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: SatinDoll

I wonder if Wisconsin is a state where Ryan can run for VP and Congress in the same year and day.


36 posted on 08/11/2012 6:17:50 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: dfwgator

Opinions are like you-know-what, and Deninger sounds like he is one.


37 posted on 08/11/2012 6:21:10 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: reefdiver
America will vote anyway they can just to rid themselves of zer0.

On Fox News they had a quick interview with a guy that pretty much summed up this election. The Fox interviewer asked this gentleman what he thought about the Ryan appointment. The man answered something like this: I don't know anything about Ryan and I don't much about Romney either but I know Obama and I'm voting for Romney.

This shows in one interview why Obama went negative so quickly. Obama figures his only chance may be to disqualify Romney in the minds of the electorate. How sad is it Obama and his creatures figure the only way to win is to make Romney seem more toxic than Obama.

38 posted on 08/11/2012 6:25:55 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama, what's your plan man?)
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To: SatinDoll

I suspect this guy never votes in a general election.


39 posted on 08/11/2012 6:28:58 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SatinDoll

You’re right. We need to focus on winning the election, and then our stealth conservative nominees will strip off their Republican Establishment costumes to reveal the conservative Supermen underneath, just like Bush.

And then our newly elected stealth conservatives can start doing important conservative things like Bush did - containing entitlements by expanding Medicare, restraining spending by supporting TARP, fixing the SCOTUS by putting real conservative originalists on it like Justce Roberts, standing up to the sodomite agenda by putting one in change of the national party, rolling back affirmative action by putting people like Alberto Gonzales, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, and others in top positions, and fighting illegal immigration by prosecuting Border Patrol Agents like Ramos aqnd Campeon.

Yes, sir. Only inside-the-Beltway “experts” and elected politicians are capable of have informed, rational, honest thoughts about our politics and government. This Deninger guy is just too “extreme”. He must be one of those Tea Party nuts.


40 posted on 08/11/2012 6:36:18 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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