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Boner All Set Up to Cave on Immigration and Gun Grabs Now, Great
Reaganite Republican ^ | 03 January 2013 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 01/03/2013 2:04:35 PM PST by Reaganite Republican


In the wake of the ludicrous 'fiscal cliff' deal made by Boehner and McConnell -packed with pork, increasing the deficit by $4 TRILLION, and raising taxes on most every American while extracting diddly-squat in spending cuts- the Republican Party doesn't represent my interests anymore, yet no GOPer has the huevos to mount a viable challenge to Boehner's feckless 'leadership'-

Ron Meyer, a spokesman for the conservative group American Majority Action, which was among several calling for Boehner’s ouster, acknowledged that House Republicans simply do not have a viable alternative to Boehner.

“It turns out no one else seems willing to pick up the mantle,” he said on Wednesday. 'I hesitate to say it, but this goes to some degree to cowardice.' 


Yet yesterday's so-called 'fiscal cliff' deal included all this
pork for Obama supporters-


How much worse could the American right do in upcoming battles on debt, immigration, and Obammunist gun grabs? 

PLENTY worse... but there's no need to take it on faith,
now you'll get to see for yourself.



ABC   Newsmax 


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: boehner; mcconnell; rino; speaker
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1 posted on 01/03/2013 2:04:42 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

I can see a GOP cave on immigration, on the grounds of the demographic argument that the leadership will make. So, I figure amnesty (or close to it) by June of this year.

Guns....I really don’t see that. They need to have some red meat to show the GOP base, so they won’t go for that.


2 posted on 01/03/2013 2:12:32 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
from another thread:


My first act of 'business' in this New Year was to remove myself from the GOP voter rolls on Wednesday morning, changing my registration to Independent.

Not one thin dime will go to a GOP 'committee' at any level .. time/money contributions to individual candidates ONLY.

The spineless pukes want to ignore us ?  Both sides can play that game !

If a FEW,000,000 of us did the same, there's just a chance - albeit a slim one - that it might make a last gasp difference.

3 posted on 01/03/2013 2:17:47 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Reaganite Republican
'I hesitate to say it, but this goes to some degree to cowardice.'

Being Speaker is a thankless task these days. Not only do you not get thanks...you also have hate thrown at you on a daily basis.

The Tea Party couldn't find someone willing and able to take the garbage that goes with the office regardless of the verbiage that they've put out lately.

4 posted on 01/03/2013 2:18:05 PM PST by what's up
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I’ll bet Uncle Buffoon’s fingerprints are all over the railroad dirty money....


5 posted on 01/03/2013 2:18:05 PM PST by cherry
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To: AdvisorB; ken5050; sten; paythefiddler

*** PING ***


6 posted on 01/03/2013 2:20:43 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: All
.. time/money contributions to individual CONSERVATIVE candidates ONLY.
7 posted on 01/03/2013 2:21:30 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Scoreboard: it's now 2nd Amendment Patriots 1 to 0 vs. the Communists.

Illinois Democrats Pull Plug on Gun /Ammo Bans
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:25:07 PM by DeathBeforeDishonor1

8 posted on 01/03/2013 2:27:36 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: tomkat

Pretty much where I’m at, TK


9 posted on 01/03/2013 2:28:59 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: what's up

Hope people keep reading your support for failure. And your post history. The faster you discredit yourself, the faster the rest of us can work to fix the mes your friends made.


10 posted on 01/03/2013 2:30:59 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

OK, good argument

But caving on immigration would be a disaster, those won’t be our votes being legalized


11 posted on 01/03/2013 2:31:25 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

My Congresscritter, Doug Collins, voted for that loser. No sooner does he get in office, he starts screwing up.


12 posted on 01/03/2013 2:33:17 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

The attacks on Boehner are just over the top, knee jerk reactions that ignore the FACT that the RATS already had a tax increase on every working American it nothing was done. So he really had no leverage to work with. We’ll see what happens when the debt limit comes up in a couple months, when the situation is reversed.


13 posted on 01/03/2013 2:34:14 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Reaganite Republican

I’ll be the bloody Speaker of the House, I’m not afraid. They won’t like me. None of ‘em...


14 posted on 01/03/2013 2:35:29 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Illinois blinked. The wave is started...only Obama could do gun control now. I hope Cuomo gets the message.


15 posted on 01/03/2013 2:38:08 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Of course they will cave.

At least we don't have to worry about telling them apart....

STICK TO YOUR GUNS

16 posted on 01/03/2013 2:42:23 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: ez
"Illinois blinked. The wave is started...only Obama could do gun control now. I hope Cuomo gets the message."

Either that or they'll pull another "Reichstag Fire" event.

Either way I think it only delays things by months. CWII seems inevitable.

17 posted on 01/03/2013 2:45:18 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: Reaganite Republican

The American taxpayer no longer has any representation in DC.


18 posted on 01/03/2013 2:45:37 PM PST by Texas resident (The idiots run the show now)
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To: Hugin

Whatever came of the 36 billion in cuts we were supposed to get from the last debt ceiling deal? Not that 36 billion in cuts amounts to anything when compared to the affects of raising the debt ceiling.

Boehner will cave, you can bank on it.


19 posted on 01/03/2013 2:59:49 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Amen, Norm


20 posted on 01/03/2013 3:05:40 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

These collaborationists will be slaughtered in 2014


21 posted on 01/03/2013 3:05:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Hugin

That’s what’s missing us off. He and Cantor acted all tough and then caved. They didn’t have a choice really and it’s due to their incompetence.

They should have been everywhere using any person and medium to tell Americans how we got here, what will be the result and how to fix it.

They let Obama and his acolites go on and on about their solution “class warfare” and they never hit back.

I thought Barry was a sissy but now he is emboldened to stand and pretend he’s tough and make demands appended with “I won’t accept” or I’ll only accept.

What’s Bone gonna do now? What’s his plan?

His back isn’t up against a wall so much as he is wandering listlessly and aimlessly through the meadow like a young deer foal finding everything interesting but what should be of utmost importance and acting with the urgency this damned problem demands.

Boner is a Poosy. Period, end of story.

He can’t throw a Hail Mary and hasn’t got a prayer.

He needs to get some elbow pads and knee pads because he apparently likes being publicly mounted.

Complete and utter disaster....


22 posted on 01/03/2013 3:09:28 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Norm Lenhart
your support for failure

Because I've said the job of Speaker is a thankless one? And I suppose you think you're supporting some kind of success? I don't see many accomplishments there.

There still has been no viable alternative proposed. Some people work with what they've got...some dream of utopia.

23 posted on 01/03/2013 3:10:50 PM PST by what's up
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To: Reaganite Republican

I am SOOOO tired of seeing this guy post excuse after of excuse on every thread concerning GOP failure.

The rest of us may disagree about a lot of things. But I cannot fathom how after what has transpired since the primaries, ANYONE can defend the Republicans.

No one with reason and a desire for honesty can. So that leaves either really stupid people or willing shills.


24 posted on 01/03/2013 3:12:00 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Reaganite Republican

Yes, caving on immigration would indeed be a disaster and arguably lead to a GOP debacle come 2014.

I just can’t see the GOP moving on gun control. It would alienate the base even further, and as I said, they need some red meat to show the base prior to the 2014 midterms.

But immigration is also a disaster. Just not as massive a disaster as moving on gun control would be.


25 posted on 01/03/2013 3:12:15 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: what's up

Still waiting for your explanation of why the GOP caved after you went on a multi-thread spree to the contrary.

I imagine it will be a long wait.

A thankless wait.


26 posted on 01/03/2013 3:14:43 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Vendome
They didn’t have a choice really and it’s due to their incompetence.

It's due to the decision to take a gamble that we would have a Republican president and Senate now. They agreed to a temporary extnesion of the Bush tax cuts figuring they could make them permanent now. Unfortunately it didn't happen. If it had worked out it would seem like genius. But I don't fault that. Sometimes you have to take a gamble, and it was probably the best option at the time.

27 posted on 01/03/2013 3:18:22 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Caved or compromised?

Both sides gave some.

Did you think we'd get it all?

28 posted on 01/03/2013 3:24:46 PM PST by what's up
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To: tomkat

It won’t make a damn bit of difference. LOL Sorry, but the ballot box is no longer a place to air your grievances. Nobody left to care about your protest.

The election process has been compromised and the Marxists will win no matter what voter persuasion you are.

Do you really believe that because you registered as an independent that it will change a damn thing? GOP may care, but they are helpless, just like you are. Hah!

You need to watch the movie, “Agenda”. Too little too late.

Activism is all that is left to even stab at a change. So far on our side that ain’t happening. You or me think we have clout? Nope, we don’t and snippy will not cut it.


29 posted on 01/03/2013 3:25:22 PM PST by dforest
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To: Vendome

Boehner should have told obama I will only negotiate in a public setting. Let the people see obama being intractable.


30 posted on 01/03/2013 3:30:48 PM PST by Josa
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To: tomkat
Simple thought ~ if I were a Democrat candidate I'd prefer real Democrat campaign workers. If I were a Republican candidate I'd prefer real Republican campaign workers.

So you will represent yourself as 'what' when you volunteer for some candidate?

Sounds like the trick ol'scuzzifuzzi pulled in New York. They're watching for that one these days you know.

31 posted on 01/03/2013 3:33:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: what's up

That proved it. A man CAN INDEED function without a brain.

Do you feel any embarrassment? Any? You should.


32 posted on 01/03/2013 3:33:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: FReepers
To those of you for whom this is old hat, please just move right along.
For the rest, and in response to an FRmail regarding the procedure, this is how one changes their voter registration in PA.
This can, of course, also be done at your county voter reg. offices in person . . .

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Q: Perhaps you can inform all FReepers what the procedure is. Up to now I have just ignored the GOP phonecalls and letters begging for money.

It's usually a simple thing, depending on your state's setup.

I'm in PA, and all it took was downloading and filling out a new voter registration form, then mailing it in.

Probably the easiest route for you would be to Gargle your county/state names followed by elections, ie 'Whatever County PA elections'.

The resulting links should take you to whatever your local authority is that handles such.

Any county not still residing in the stone age should have a link to voter registration forms and/or have one on the site that you can copy/paste/print/complete/mail.

In my case, it was simply a matter of checking the 'Change of Party' box, then 'No Affiliation' (the PA wording, further down the page), confirming that my address etc was the same, and printing an envelope for it.

The gutless RNC pukes build their database begging lists on voter rolls, so once you're no longer registered GOP, most of that crap should stop.
Not to say that some other outfit basing theirs on Independents won't pick up the slack and fill your mailbox with their crap, but such is the state of things these days .. lol/groan.

33 posted on 01/03/2013 3:43:45 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: GeronL; All

“These collaborationists will be slaughtered in 2014”
_____________________________________________________

WELL PUT


34 posted on 01/03/2013 3:46:47 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Norm Lenhart

Ah yes. Personal attack but no substance. Typical of people who have no realistic ideas but who just love to whine.


35 posted on 01/03/2013 3:54:35 PM PST by what's up
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To: dforest
For many, such will be the last patriotic attempt for the ballot box.

Failing that, and if other 'boxes' must inevitably follow, I pray my aging body can be of some use.

If not as a fellow resident of the history books, I'd at least hope to contribute to the collective consciousness allied with the view of P.Henry.

36 posted on 01/03/2013 3:58:19 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: muawiyah
So you will represent yourself as 'what' when you volunteer for some candidate?

Present myself as precisely what I am .. a patriot w/ integrity, disgusted with the gutless status quo whores of the GOP, who sees some promise in the views espoused by this (xyz) candidate and hopes 'you' will too.

37 posted on 01/03/2013 3:58:42 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: what's up

Still waiting for an explanation about all those threadhacks filled with excuses for Bhoner and the GOP.

I mock you for all the right reasons.

1: YOU and those like you are the reason conservatives can’t get organized. Everytime it begins, there one of you is to tell us all why we can’t and sow dissension.

2: You are fully deserving of it based on your post history.

3: Because I can. You give me so many...’excuses’ to.


38 posted on 01/03/2013 4:01:07 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: dforest
A hugh ps:

.. because you registered as an independent that it will change a damn thing?

Me, alone ?
Of course not, hence > FEW,000,000

It would likely only have a chance at making a dent if a million + currently registered Rs suddenly vanished from the RNC books and, most importantly, their donations right along with them.

39 posted on 01/03/2013 4:07:01 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I'm the reason a viable contender for Speaker couldn't gain steam?

Coming up with Alan West for Speaker (a man who never even hinted he wanted the job) is "getting organized"? Classic blame game you're playing there.

40 posted on 01/03/2013 4:09:59 PM PST by what's up
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To: Reaganite Republican
With our current technology, blackmailing is almost effortless. It doesn’t matter who you send. If bribery is insufficient, thieves move to blackmail; if blackmail is insufficient, they move to a smear; if none of this works, then threats on person and family follow; if even yet a congressman or senator resists, “suicide” of a family member will ensue. I don’t believe anyone could overcome guilt over a dead daughter. The fundamental problem is that the FBI is no longer the independent FBI of Hoover. Billions upon billions upon billions of federal dollars are irresistible to the world’s brightest thieves.
41 posted on 01/03/2013 4:10:49 PM PST by Leonine
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To: Reaganite Republican

42 posted on 01/03/2013 4:19:56 PM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: what's up
Being Speaker is a thankless task these days. Not only do you not get thanks...you also have hate thrown at you on a daily basis.

The Tea Party couldn't find someone willing and able to take the garbage that goes with the office regardless of the verbiage that they've put out lately.

So what color uniforms do the GOP-e cheerleaders get to wear this year?

43 posted on 01/03/2013 4:21:59 PM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: what's up

You and every other sycophant that runs around proclaiming conservatism while pushing compromise and ‘go along get along Republicanism”. Yes, very much so.

All your/others interference in Conservative acceptance of the reality that JonBon and Co. are openly hostile to the values they hold dear. Yes, Absolutely.

Your/others rabid devotion to anything BUT the idea of Conservatives abandoning a party that revels in the sodomy of it’s conservative members? Yes, absolutely.

And all one needs to do is read your post history to see every single thing I just described.

I strongly recommend, as I told you before, that they do before deciding whether or not to take you seriously. The great thing about these performances of yours is that once people do, they just get madder...at the people you are openly protecting.

And much like the Cheezeburger cat, that makes me haZ a happy.

But alas, it ultimately serves your purpose in diverting any progress toward establishment of a viable opposition party...which f course, is your intent.

Which, like the Cheezeburger cat, makes me haZ a sad.

But your brand of BS cannot stand unopposed.


44 posted on 01/03/2013 4:27:24 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Hugin

What color is the sky on your planet?

Boner should have started negotiations with an offer to cut spending by $2 Trillion next year and making the Bush tax cuts permanent and cutting White House funding by 70%. Then start haggling from there. Leverage comes from having a big stick, something Weepy Boner doesn’t.


45 posted on 01/03/2013 4:29:16 PM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Ah, more insult and no facts. So typical.

On the contrary, I am frustrated by the slow pace. But do I see the Tea Party offering up any other REAL alternative plan?

No, they basically just like to sling insults at people who are taking flak (how brave NOT), rally around a temporary "leader" for a day or two and whine constantly.

46 posted on 01/03/2013 4:30:01 PM PST by what's up
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To: Norm Lenhart
No one with reason and a desire for honesty can. So that leaves either really stupid people or willing shills.

I go with Door #3: paid lackeys.

47 posted on 01/03/2013 4:30:10 PM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: what's up

So how much does the GOP pay you to post this drivel on FreeRepublic? Must be a pretty good sum.


48 posted on 01/03/2013 4:31:58 PM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: Norm Lenhart
LOL I strongly suspect that people could not be bothered examining my posting history like you seem obsessed with doing.
49 posted on 01/03/2013 4:36:54 PM PST by what's up
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To: COBOL2Java
So how much does the GOP pay you

YAWN...got anything real to say?

50 posted on 01/03/2013 4:38:11 PM PST by what's up
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