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Left convinced Americans will not fight for 2nd Amendment rights
Coach is Right ^ | 1/7/13 | Doug Book

Posted on 01/07/2013 8:30:30 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

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To: Norm Lenhart
How do I know you aren't a liberal trying to turn conservatives against the Republican party?

As to me disappearing from threads, well, as much as like to stay on FR, I can't be here all the time. And there is no contradiction in me being a patriot and defending the GOP. The Republican Party is our only hope for successfully defending our rights in the political realm. I am a patriot, a conservative, and a Republican and always will be.
141 posted on 01/10/2013 12:52:37 AM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

How is supporting a pro-abortion candidate in a blue state/district exchanging a life for a vote? If we are going to have a someone elected we might as well have them side with us most of the time instead of rarely as a Democrat would do. That’s an unfortunate reality, but it is a reality.


142 posted on 01/10/2013 12:55:30 AM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: Sarabaracuda

tell us again about illegal aliens from your conservative point of view


143 posted on 01/10/2013 12:56:16 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Sarabaracuda
Overreaction would be committing physical violence in the event that Obama issue an “executive order” to ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines without trying the many peaceful means of overturning that ban.

Conservatives are being nothing but peaceful.

I want to add that Conservatives aren't driving this bus. We're just along for the ride. All, and I mean ALL of the direction is coming from the left.

With that being said, I can promise you that I won't comply with any bans. I've been in harm's way before and these communist bastards haven't, and they don't don't scare me. I don't speak for others. I can only speak for myself. I don't care a bit if anyone is with me or not.

I won't comply.

144 posted on 01/10/2013 1:07:25 AM PST by SIDENET (I've drawn my line in the sand.)
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To: Sarabaracuda

I think that there are more ‘legal’ voters on our side than theirs. I believe that the election was stolen by massive fraud in key princincts of many ‘swing’ states, personally. In that regard, it is incumbent on any sane voter to vote against any candidate for Secretary of the State who is a Democrat for any state in this union, that goes double for RINO candidates.

Regardless of that, this isn’t a conventional war as such and wouldn’t be fought so. Civil disobedience on a massive scale, scattered with a few high profile siege cases wouldn’t do much for the government’s case.


145 posted on 01/10/2013 3:13:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Lazamataz

Yep. That list of “Things to do...” is pretty much exhausted.

I just hope no one jumps the Green light and starts poaching. Gotta wait until they are in season before harvesting.


146 posted on 01/10/2013 5:24:37 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: Marcella

ping


147 posted on 01/10/2013 8:21:12 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
If the shooting begins, the first targetted are the propangandist, i.e. journalists and columnist who spread the propaganda. Either way these useful idiots are gone even if evil prevails. The evil will need to cleanse/eradicate the old propagandist pools and exchange them fresh clean useful idiots.
148 posted on 01/10/2013 8:28:35 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Sarabaracuda; JRandomFreeper
“The Republican Party is our only hope for successfully defending our rights in the political realm. I am a patriot, a conservative, and a Republican and always will be.”

I've read your posts and you are what you say you are above except for being a conservative which you are not. You are a RINO and perfect for the present day Republican Party.

About JRandomFreeper: He isn't going out in the public and making a fuss that would put you in danger. He does control his compound and you and others will never get to enter it if you don't bring the specified product with you to wave at the entrance of the compound. Only certain people know what product to bring and I am one of them.

I can get in but you and gun confiscating idiots can't so forget about JRandomFreeper and get ready to hand your guns over as, based on your posts, that is what you will do. You are so intent on avoiding trouble, I wouldn't put it past you to tell authorities the names of people you know who have a gun.

149 posted on 01/10/2013 9:27:32 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Sarabaracuda

Where is the line?


150 posted on 01/10/2013 9:42:55 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Sarabaracuda

Because if you read my post history you will see my clearly articulated positions, which follow conservative philosophy. And those clearly articulated positions describe in great detail why any thinking individual, conservative, liberal, politically agnostic or puppies should be against a party that does everything in it’s power to throw the game.

Your ‘only hope’ is the problem. And thanks to defenders such as yourself going across the net bastardizing everything the Reagan wing of republicanism was ever about, the Shining City on the Hill is a cesspool filled with people and followers trying to call black white and evil, good.

See next post RE your Abortion nonsense.


151 posted on 01/10/2013 10:24:46 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Sarabaracuda

Since your deductive reasoning abilities seem a bit, shall we say, ‘selective’, I’ll spell out for you what even a liberal understands fully.

The GOP platform is anti-abortion.
Conservatives are anti-abortion.
The act of abortion results in a dead baby.
Pro abortion Republican candidates are by the very definition of the term, in favor of abortion.
You propose we run such candidates in Blue areas to ‘win’.
That potential (not even guaranteed) ‘win’ comes because you think people will vote for him/her so they can continue killing their unborn children at will.

What that is, is pure evil. What that makes anyone who would do so is pure evil.

What that makes you should not take a doctorate in logic or deductive reasoning to understand. But here’s a hint. It is the polar opposite of conservative. And it starts with a “e”.


Now many people may wonder why several of us have seemingly wasted a combined tens of thousands of words trying to talk sense to you over the past several days. Allow me to explain.

The point is not to convince Sara of the ridiculousness of her position. It is to show what the modern republican party is made up of. People like Sara, whether they are GOP ringers, or actual deluded supporters believe many the very things she says themselves. Many other things which are obviously not conservative, are there to give you the impression she is part of the ‘mainstream’ of the Political Right and that you, the reader, are on the fringe for thinking as you do. The net effect is to convince you to get back on the GOP plantation or by Alynski’d.

For any of you who have done any research on the subject, you know immediately what you are seeing. Propaganda 101. SAnd in the future, as the GOP swings further to the left as is the multi-year trend, you will see more Saras on the net, in your newspapers, on TV and everywhere else. You will hear more liberal core values like abortion being dressed up in new clothes and introduced to you in all sorts of new and exciting ways to bet you to bend your principles just a bit more to ‘Win”.

This is known as incrimentalism.

And if you refuse, you will be on the receiving end of comments like ‘traitor to your country’, just as many Freepers already experienced in this last election.

Sara, or whoever you are, Go back to your GOP friends and tell them that not everyone on FR is a sheep. And some of us are actually very good at seeing reality for who and what it is.


152 posted on 01/10/2013 10:48:47 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: kosciusko51

The left wants any excuse it can get to use deadly force, through the government, to KILL those who disagree with them. It’s in all their hearts.


153 posted on 01/10/2013 10:55:39 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Windflier; JRandomFreeper

Ping to 152


154 posted on 01/10/2013 10:55:50 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Lots of folks last night were all over that poster. Seems like it doesn't get much traction here on FR.

/johnny

155 posted on 01/10/2013 11:18:56 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Like water on stone, they just keep wearing away the resistance. And once ‘she’ leaves, another eerily similar to ‘her’ will take the place and just keep right on grinding.

I see on the gun threads she did everything she could to get someone to call for murder or flip some other switch that would invite government action. And give MSM a post to point at and scream.

Everyone so up in arms about Yeager seems quiet about the calls for ‘Kill Whitey’ at every Django showing and twitter/facebook post though.

Wonder why.


156 posted on 01/10/2013 11:27:13 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
For any of you who have done any research on the subject, you know immediately what you are seeing. Propaganda 101.

My research on the subject consists of over half a decade reading at this website. Daily interaction with those of like mind has not only sharpened my mind and personal knowledge base, but it's made me acutely sensitive to viewpoints and considerations that run outside of (or contrary to) the firmly established boundaries of conservative thought.

Those who come here to spread 'alternative' views should understand that they stick out like the proverbial sore thumb, and that the only question in the minds of most Freepers is, who are they working for.

157 posted on 01/10/2013 1:05:01 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
The only reasoning abilities which are selective are yours. I never said I support abortion. All I said was that it is sometimes beneficial to the conservative movement to support pro-abortion candidates if said candidates are more conservative than liberal and a pro life candidate cannot win in a certain district/ state.

I know what the platform states and I agree with it, but it is not practically enforceable in the party. Idealogical statements have their place, and practical politics had its own.

Let me ask you, exactly what do you consider pro-life? If someone supports leaving abortion to the states or supports abortion in the case of rape, incest, or endangerment of the mother's life, are they still pro-life in your eyes?

The problem with people like you is that you all have different litmus tests about different things whether it is abortion, arms control, immigration, etc. You would never be able to form a working and effective coalition politically because you would alienate one another and most everyone else that does not agree with your pet issue. If you had your way, we would be lucky to have five members of Congress who were actually conservative. There would be chaos on the right and the Dems would control the country. Ideological purity has no place in real politics.
158 posted on 01/10/2013 2:46:03 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
You are an outright liar. I was on the James Yeager thread among others warning against making extreme remarks about killing people and the like.

The remarks about killing white people were made not by those on our side, but by racist liberals. They aren't going to listen to us so why bother. Besides, they did much more harm to themselves than anyone with such rhetoric which is why I am so determined to prevent similar type of statements being linked to conservatives.
159 posted on 01/10/2013 3:01:57 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I am still waiting for you to answer my question regarding civilians owning NBCR weapons. While you’re at it, answer this: if someone does not believe, as you do, that civilians should be able to legally own fully automatic weapons, are they no longer a conservative by your standards?


160 posted on 01/10/2013 3:05:40 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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