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Ayn Rand Really, Really Hated C.S. Lewis
First Things ^ | March 27, 2013 | Matthew Schmitz

Posted on 05/11/2013 12:12:17 PM PDT by JerseyanExile

Ayn Rand was no fan of C.S. Lewis. She called the famous apologist an “abysmal bastard,” a “monstrosity,” a “cheap, awful, miserable, touchy, social-meta­physical mediocrity,” a “pickpocket of concepts,” and a “God-damn, beaten mystic.” (I suspect Lewis would have particularly relished the last of these.)

These insults and more can be found in her marginal notes on a copy of Lewis’ Abolition of Man, as printed in Ayn Rand’s Marginalia: Her critical comments on the writings of over 20 authors, edited by Robert Mayhew. Excerpts appear below, with Lewis’ writing (complete with Rand’s highlighting and underlining) on the left and Rand’s notes on the right.

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TOPICS: Religion; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: abolitionofman; atheism; atheists; aynrand; cslewis; cslewismysticism; evilwoman; lewis; libertarians; magic; medicalmarijuana; misquoting; objectivism; pages; rand; randians; science; tao; theology
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To: Menehune56

Rand is a social Marxist. It’s the opposite of the culture that accomodates constitutional freedom. It is the culture of communism.


81 posted on 05/11/2013 4:49:55 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: A_perfect_lady
They always miss this.

Not only do they miss it, they get uppity about it when they do! :-)

82 posted on 05/11/2013 4:50:34 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: BfloGuy

Excellent post! Nailed it exactly.


83 posted on 05/11/2013 4:53:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: JerseyanExile

What anti religionists miss is that religion is never done away with. People find a substitute such as the environment or vegetarianism, or their politics become in essence their passion/religion. They end up worshiping charismatic manipulators or worshiping themselves and it never ends well. Strange that Rand seemed to miss this point. Organized religion works better than chaotic random religion.


84 posted on 05/11/2013 5:07:48 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: usconservative

The left hates religion, so Rand’s elimination of it makes her novels/concepts/ideals the perfect weapon against them. For example, I’m arguing with some pro-infanticide lefty on our local newspaper’s website. She keeps accusing me of throwing my religion around yet I have not used religion to prove why infanticide is wrong. She now has no argument because she fully intended to use that as her only argument. It really pi$$es the left off when you take religion out of an argument because then they can’t whine about it and change the argument to a religious debate.


85 posted on 05/11/2013 5:13:01 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: OldNavyVet

The God you ask about is the creator of the universe. Given this alone, there is nothing that gives any human being the standing to inquire, let alone know, God’s motives.


86 posted on 05/11/2013 5:22:09 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Mr Rogers; OldNavyVet

Good answer and well supported.

Inevitably, atheism collapses under the weight of truth.


87 posted on 05/11/2013 5:31:00 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: goodwithagun

All language and all thought proceed in the context of God’s truth.

Immanuel Kant, German philosopher a few centuries back, was simply wrong when he proposed that the language of science is separate and incompatible with the language of faith.

Unfortunately, Kant is probably to blame for the way this false dichotomy has taken root in the imaginations of so many to this day.


88 posted on 05/11/2013 5:42:03 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Gunslingr3

Had not read such a quote before. She really WAS lost, wasn’t she?

But at least the quote confirms my suspicions. Thanks.


89 posted on 05/11/2013 5:48:49 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: reasonisfaith

While I agree with you, the left always takes the religion aspect of a debate and then uses it as an attempt to debunk the entire argument. Debating without inserting God and religion completely befuddles them and it’s amusing.


90 posted on 05/11/2013 5:52:33 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Joe 6-pack; Dumb_Ox
CS Lewis is also the gateway drug that leads a lot of people to Chesterton :-)

I will probably have to steal that line although I may give you attribution, possibly once, in some endearing manner.

91 posted on 05/11/2013 5:56:23 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years)
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To: Lee N. Field

It was published as “We the Living” in novel form, but I’m pretty sure it was called “We” when it appeared as a Novella in one of those pulp magazines.

Unfortunately, my copy is in a trunk stored in another house, so I can’t check it right now. I could be wrong about it.


92 posted on 05/11/2013 6:00:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Your moral thinking has never progressed beyond that of a 5-year old or a literal savage. You cannot conceive of the operation of moral principles in the world - that’s apparently beyond your intellectual capacity - so all you can do is rely on supernatural rewards and punishments, the equivalent of Mommy or Daddy giving you extra desert, or swatting your behind.


93 posted on 05/11/2013 6:06:19 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: Cicero

You’re referring to “Anthem,” not “We.” I know you read the Ayn Rand novel; you just switched the names. The 2 novels are often compared; they’re both by Russians, both dystopias condemning collectivism. “We” was written by Yevgeny Zamyatin.


94 posted on 05/11/2013 6:14:18 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: kabumpo
Then I am done ever even thinking her name . . .

Whose name?

95 posted on 05/11/2013 6:21:00 PM PDT by Misterioso (It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing - Duke Ellington)
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To: MNDude
She really understood socialism but just from reading Atlas Shrugged, you can tell she’s a b*tch.

Somehow, I missed that. What, in particular, gave you that idea?

96 posted on 05/11/2013 6:25:33 PM PDT by Misterioso (It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing - Duke Ellington)
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To: hopespringseternal
Atlas Shrugged is great but extremely one-dimensional and shallow.

Aren't you a little confused?

97 posted on 05/11/2013 6:27:52 PM PDT by Misterioso (It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing - Duke Ellington)
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To: Bryanw92
" I’ve read most of their books, and Rand makes a good case for refuting Progressivism but her dream world is a harsh place of misery for most. That’s why her books refute progressives so easily. Because they envision the same world of misery, only with different masters and slaves. "

Thank you. That's the comment I wish I had made about the atheist old bag myself.

OTOH, I know someone, a devout professing Christian mind you, who says stuff like... "We live in a free enterprise economy, and IT'S BRUTAL."

I see it your way myself.

98 posted on 05/11/2013 6:27:54 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Cicero
Certainly worth reading, but not someone you want to actually take your political ideals from.

Quite a recommendation.

99 posted on 05/11/2013 6:31:19 PM PDT by Misterioso (It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing - Duke Ellington)
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To: BCrago66

>>Your moral thinking has never progressed beyond that of a 5-year old or a literal savage.<<

Yeah, okay. Every believer in God is an idiot, and you are the smart one.

Good luck with that.


100 posted on 05/11/2013 6:35:37 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Quit whining about the media not doing their job! GET THE WORD OUT!)
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