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Member Of Congress: Edward Snowden’s Revelations Are “Just The Tip Of The Iceberg”
TEC ^ | 06/14/2013 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 06/16/2013 5:41:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 06/16/2013 5:44:10 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

According to U.S. Representative Loretta Sanchez, members of Congress learned "significantly more than what is out in the media today" during a closed briefing about the NSA on Tuesday, and that what has been revealed so far about NSA snooping is "just the tip of the iceberg". During her interview with C-SPAN on Wednesday, she also stated that NSA spying is "just broader than most people even realize" but due to security restrictions she could not reveal more than that. So precisely what are the American people not being told? And do our leaders ever plan to tell us the truth? Many of our politicians have come down extremely hard on whistleblower Edward Snowden, but if it wasn't for him most Americans would have no idea what the NSA has been up to. Is the Obama administration going to come clean on this, or do we have to wait for even more whistleblowers to come forward? The American people deserve to know that they are being spied on, and it appears that those in charge of doing this spying have been flat out lying to Congress about it.

Today, one of the most powerful men in the U.S. government is Keith Alexander, the Director of the NSA. According to a Wired article that just came out, Alexander "is regarded with a mixture of respect and fear" by those inside the government...

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Does that paragraph put a chill up your spine?

It should.

The free and open Internet that we enjoy today may not always exist. The power of government may eventually transform it into something else entirely.

And as Dr. Jerome Corsi has just written about, Alexander has now publicly confirmed much of what Edward Snowden has been alleging...

The NSA director confirmed to Congress today that leaker Edward Snowden had access to a highly sensitive database containing personal information that could be mined to track a target’s thoughts and actions and possibly predict future acts.

U.S. Army General Keith B. Alexander, commander of U.S. Cyber Command and director of the National Security Agency, told the Senate Appropriations Committee that Snowden “had great skills as an IT (Internet Technology) system administrator.”

Yes, in this day and age every nation needs intelligence agencies. But they should be used to spy on the enemies of the American people, not on the American people themselves. The Fourth Amendment is supposed to be our guarantee that the government will not invade our privacy or investigate us unless there is probable cause that we have committed a crime. That means that if they don't have probable cause they are supposed to leave us alone.

Unfortunately, those running our government seem to have a tremendous disdain for the U.S. Constitution. In fact, all over the western world we are seeing freedoms and liberties being destroyed. The following is what Simon Black recently had to say about all of this...

By now it should be clear to anyone paying attention that most of Western civilization is on a dangerous slide into tyranny.

They’re confiscating funds directly from people’s bank accounts. They’re seizing reporters’ personal records and phone logs. They’re digitally spying on everyone’s emails.

They’ve authorized military detention and drone assassination of their own citizens.

They’re using tax offices to harass political opposition groups.

They tell us what we are allowed to eat and drink, what foods we are allowed to put in our own body.

Think about it. These are Soviet tactics, plain and simple.

What’s more, they don’t even care. They think we’re all idiots who are too stupid to even notice what they’re doing.

Now is the time for the American people to stand up and object to all of this.

If you are waiting for our politicians to save you, then you are going to be waiting for a very, very long time.

And most Americans have already figured this out. According to a new Gallup survey that was just released, the confidence that the American people have in Congress is at an all-time low. Only 10 percent of all Americans have confidence in our legislative branch at this point.

If the American people do not demand change now, it will be a signal to those doing the snooping that they can push the envelope even farther.

We need to heed the warnings of the whistleblowers. Our own government has been listening to our most private conversations and they have been totally getting away with it. Just check out what NSA whistleblower Adrienne J. Kinne told NSA expert James Bamford...

I also wrote about Adrienne J. Kinne, an NSA intercept operator who attempted to blow the whistle on the NSA’s illegal eavesdropping on Americans following the 9/11 attacks. “Basically all rules were thrown out the window,” she said, “and they would use any excuse to justify a waiver to spy on Americans.” Even journalists calling home from overseas were included. “A lot of time you could tell they were calling their families,” she says, “incredibly intimate, personal conversations.” She only told her story to me after attempting, and failing, to end the illegal activity with appeals all the way up the chain of command to Major General Keith Alexander, head of the Army’s Intelligence and Security Command at the time.

Do you want the government to listen to your "intimate, personal conversations", record them and stash them in a giant data center out in Utah where they will be held forever?

If not, then this is your chance to stand up and demand change.

 


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: 666; benghazi; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; nsa; snowden; spying

1 posted on 06/16/2013 5:41:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

2 posted on 06/16/2013 5:44:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


3 posted on 06/16/2013 5:44:13 AM PDT by basil (basil --Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: SeekAndFind
... but due to security restrictions she could not reveal more than that.

So, why even bring it up? If you can't talk about it. If you can't reveal more? Why leave such a broad opening for endless speculation?

Oh, because it grabs headlines.
4 posted on 06/16/2013 5:55:29 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: TomGuy
"So, why even bring it up? If you can't talk about it. If you can't reveal more? Why leave such a broad opening for endless speculation?

Oh, because it grabs headlines."

Or because she is trying to tell what she can without being destroyed by the Regime?

5 posted on 06/16/2013 6:06:20 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: SeekAndFind

Another flaming ObamaBot Democrat from CA inadvertently tells the truth. THe other was Maxine Waters, who told us months ago that Obama had a data base that could track all of us all the time. Who knew that she actually was telling the truth for once in her life?


6 posted on 06/16/2013 6:07:16 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: TomGuy
The founders devised a system with checks and balances on the three branches to maintain our system of representative government. They could not foresee the need for checks on the administration of enacted laws.

They failed to provide any checks on the most powerful, secretive, unaccountable branch, the great bureaucacy. Presidents, Representatives, and Senators come and go, but the bureaucacy goes on forever.

7 posted on 06/16/2013 6:54:31 AM PDT by ibytoohi (What the hell has happened to my country?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t it sad that the only thing keeping the Federal Government in check is whistle blowers. Whether Edward Snowden went overboard or not, he opened our eyes to another IRS type of total loss of control and criminal activity.


8 posted on 06/16/2013 7:10:29 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me

No he didn’t...he simply took the stage in another country and gave them the goods.

Since when does a defector who has lied, stolen and then ran for cover in a Communist Country open anyones eyes?

Those informed already knew this...the rest are bringing up the rear.


9 posted on 06/16/2013 7:14:30 AM PDT by caww
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To: SeekAndFind

When are the congress critters going to admit that the things they are investigating are simply Obamas plot to subvert any conservative means to get a fair election. IRS, NSA collecting data on conservative groups to harass them into submission.


10 posted on 06/16/2013 7:20:46 AM PDT by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies. And lies, and lies and lies forever.)
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To: JayAr36; Logical me

We can first start with the IRS, then slowly move to the NSA.

The American Thinker’s Greg Richards has a proposal which I fully agree with.

If conservative cultural and political activity is to continue unmolested in this country, the IRS must be eliminated. It is too disdainful of American mores, and it is too powerful. Neither of those things will change with a new commissioner and whatever is the final disposition of Lois Lerner.

We need to replace our tax code totally to achieve that goal. Since we can’t do that overnight, and we can’t replace the 16th amendment overnight, the nation still must have a revenue collection agency in the meantime.

As a first cut, perhaps the new agency would have six regional and independent divisions. They would be located in offices around the country, and there would be no single IRS commissioner in Washington.

The six agency heads would report to Congress every six months on the activities of their agencies on penalty of perjury. There would be new offices of ombudsman for each regional agency. The ombudsmen would testify to Congress along with the agency heads every six months as to the number and type of complaints they had received and what had been the disposition of those complaints.

All salaries in the new six agencies would start at 10% below the equivalent levels in the current IRS. There would be no union in the six agencies, because the agencies must represent the interests of the country and that alone.

Something like that.


11 posted on 06/16/2013 8:09:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Really?

Please illuminate what he did that just so wrong.


12 posted on 06/16/2013 9:01:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Truth29
"So, why even bring it up? If you can't talk about it. If you can't reveal more? Why leave such a broad opening for endless speculation? Oh, because it grabs headlines." Or because she is trying to tell what she can without being destroyed by the Regime?

Exactly - nobody (especially those who call him a traitor) seems to realize that there is no "legal" way to get such information out into the public without filtering it through the bureaucracy that has more reasons (like self defense from the truth) to sweep it under the rug. When one gets a security clearance, one signs a non-disclosure agreement that can be used as a basis for prosecution with malice. The signed agreements are archived for at least 50 years. The second that anyone starts making noises like he has, they will be taken into custody for "debriefings" and will never be allowed to get the story out. Catch 22 at its finest.

13 posted on 06/16/2013 9:10:08 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lorretta Sanchez...Beware The Wolf!

just sayin


14 posted on 06/16/2013 9:24:34 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: trebb; Truth29
When one gets a security clearance, one signs a non-disclosure agreement that can be used as a basis for prosecution with malice.

And is an [non-disclosure] agreement binding upon a conspiracy to commit murder? Howe about felonies? Guess what: this spying is a felony-class law violation, in more ways than one.

So then — is Snowden bound by his NDA?

15 posted on 06/16/2013 2:53:42 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
So then — is Snowden bound by his NDA?

Maybe not morally or ethically, but he is in the legal sense. Just because a law is bad or being perverted does not keep one from being convicted/punished under it.

Kind of like the arguments about whether a psychiatrist or priest is bound by the confidentiality precepts or if they need to "rat out" someone who has murdered or may murder. There will always be conflict and doing the right thing also results in at least some modicum of the wrong thing being done.

16 posted on 06/18/2013 2:59:18 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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